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Meh, that's just yardage. The 2018 and 2020 defenses allowed 374 and 375 points, respectively. Middling. By contrast, the 2017 Preston Brown MLB'd defense allowed just 359...........and that was DESPITE averaging an astonishing 45 points allowed per game in the worst 3 game defensive stretch in Bills team history. I guess we just couldn't quantify Preston's impact either. The 2019 team had the easiest schedule the team has had since the league went to 16 games...........that created their low yardage + low points aberration.

Ohhhhhhh.......ok......... let me know how your film review of these vastly different defenses goes. 😉 There hasn't been less variance between defense's in the NFL in decades.

Well you know, the whole "his impact is hard to quantify" thing works a lot better when the results on that side of the ball are extraordinary.

I'm not judging him against a mid-1990's MLB..........I'm judging him against his peers. There is a level of exceptional MLB's who quote "get the job done" and also make game changing plays............Edmunds is not in that level.........mainly because of the lack of big plays but the reality is that he had a 110+ passer rating against and got carved up by QB's last season. By contrast, fellow classmate Roquan Smith had a 59.6 passer rating against, 2 interceptions, 1 FF, 4 sacks and 18 TFL. Half the people arguing about how Edmunds gets a bad rap don't even know who else plays the position. Fortunately for Edmunds and his agent, most of the best MLB/ILB's are in the NFC. Edmunds is still probably a top 10 or 12 MLB/ILB.........because there aren't many above average players at the position.........it's devalued for a reason.

Anyone who can't acknowledge that his lack of game changing plays is conspicuous is NOT being the least bit objective. I miss the weekly updates from the TSW homers on how much better off the Bills were for selecting Big Mike instead of the near universally favored Bryant McKinnie. 😆

1) They only play 2 LB's 90% of the snaps........they have plenty of them and an excess of depth. 2) Ridiculously wrong. They signed Klein to a rather lucrative contract. He was Kuechly's understudy in Carolina prior to going to New Orleans. They also signed Tyrel Adams this offseason coming off a 120 tackle season as a starter(and cut him early because they are flush with reserve MLB's). Andre Smith got a $2M+ per year deal and Tyler Matakevich's deal averaged $4M before it was adjusted. Ain't nobody working for the minimum in that LB corps. 3) Because they are committed to turning his All-Pro physical traits into a commensurate MLB even it it takes a 4th or 5th season. If there is only one answer, then I guess the reason that Levi Wallace didn't get any veteran or high draft pick competition is because they think he's like having another first rounder out there? The whole "he gets the job done" mantra belongs with players like Eli..........not players you invest first round picks and potentially a $20M/yr contract too.

Excuses are what you are making. Here's how it works: - Highly invested-in young player performs below expectations - Homer fans rush to make excuses - Said player continues to underachieve and it soon becomes indisputable - fanbase begins to over-react and assign the failure of every failed play near him to said player - Homer fans try to spin the over-reactions as proof that player isn't underperforming Bottom line..........Edmunds hasn't made game changing plays...........and the excuses why he doesn't are wearing thin.

Important to note that the Bills are near the bottom of the waiver claim list.

As I pointed out during the draft process.........Etienne had a lot of mileage on him. *Maybe* this injury happens regardless of those 800+ college touches.......touches which produced significantly diminishing returns in his final season, btw.........but round 1 RB fans need to face this reality: The best players on the field don't play RB anymore. The money has moved the stud RB athletes of yesterday the defensive side of the ball to stop the passing game..........or in some cases to WR on offense.........a guy like Etienne would have been reserve RB 25 years ago. What I find most perplexing is why people over-valued his speed/quickness numbers etc...........if he played CB or WR with those measurables at his size, he might have been a late round pick or even UDFA. Not to say he wouldn't have carved out a niche at another position but you don't put a #1 on that player anywhere but at RB. And then the Jags moved him to WR.

It's a long season and in every McDermott year they have had a stretch of "dog days" where they didn't look right for a stretch of 3-4 games and lost some of them. Last year, it was October.........where they got hammered by the Titans, looked like crap on offense against the Chiefs, labored against the Jets and needed Justin Zimmer with a last second forced fumble to prevent New England from upsetting them at home. 4 years of past history under McD suggests that they will likely have a run like that again this year........and hopefully they get out of it 2-2 again. Assuming that they will remain focused for 17 games and not get upset or lose to a team they may be favored over is not very realistic.

As I said with Antonio Williams..........straight line runners are easiest kinda' backs to find........so not surprising they were able to find one with otherwise good RAS numbers in the middle of preseason. Being able to utilize wiggle-free backs definitely simplifies the process of keeping the RB room occupied with ultra-low investment guys that might actually be able to gain some yards for you in your system.

I am good with any color helmet as long as it doesn't have that "grazer" on it. Hopefully they threw that far enough back that we never see it again.

What's with you and trying to jump into threads to pretend "nobody said that" or "that never happened"............you weren't even part of any of these conversations.😂 @PromoTheRobot spent years shaming quitters like you(he drives just as far and has extra tickets, not just his own). And of course, would really lay into local fans who weren't buying BS like "cash to the cap". Point out a type of Bills organizational ineptitude and he'd be the first to point out that "Detroit is worse" and what a bunch of ingrates Bills fans were. It was entertaining. As for your reasoning for quitting.........you posted on TSW that you quit because you were fed up........the part about the "business decision" was a later add on after I started busting your balls about it. Shoulda' lead with that........quitters never win. 😉

Yeah, and at pick #30 my preferences were: 1. Rousseau 2. Marshall 3. Eichenberg I would have been in disbelief if they got both Rousseau and Marshall. Thisclose. People are a bit over-geeked about this WR corps...........they are very good but a lot of it is the well established system and the QB...........if you work under the assumption that you don't want to waste Diggs running 9 routes all game then there is a lack of a guy who can physically stretch teams deep. They might be able to get away with just scheming and route-running enough to threaten teams with the deep ball like they did with Davis last year..........but don't really have a guy opposite Diggs who you gotta' keep a safety deep or wide to one side for.

Yeah almost everyone who was initially disappointed backed off.......perhaps as people realized that the pick was roundly well received and explanations of why he was taken and the perspective for why he opted out or might not have looked like a conventional pass rusher were made. A lot of people had Rousseau written off because of his disappointing workout numbers and taking the season off. Like I said though, no "ardent" hate really from regular posters............but it is concerning that people still want to take players at positions of lesser import when there is talent at big $ positions and a crying need to boot. I'm not leaving a potentially elite pass rusher on the board for a 216# LB.

Well........a 5th round pick wasn't getting a trade-up done there............so blame Beane for trading for Stefon Diggs @DJB.😉 They could have traded the pick they used on Spencer Brown and possibly got up 9 spots.........but they needed to address the offensive tackle position with youth and I think Brown could prove to be a very valuable pick. I was more of a Terrace Marshall guy with that pick...........the Bills just missed a chance at him without a trade-up. Not a huge Basham fan.........I thought he was kinda' maxed out pushing 24 years of age and would end up being Shaq-esque relatively low impact.........played a little better than I expected so far. Also worth noting that @H2o was one of the bigger critics of the Rousseau pick(although there really weren't any ardent ones among regular posters, @BarleyNY was probably the most fervent of the regulars......and the ones who hated it most seemed to be recent joiners so might even have been some trolls). JOK might become a very good player but you don't pick hybrid LB/S when you need talent at premium positions.

Lamp not being able to sustain the momentum of playing all 16 games last season is a disappointment. Talent-wise, he might be their best OG.........was hoping he'd lock up that LG spot for this season.

And now that the team is actually winning you don't have to irrationally blame the fanbase for the losing and mediocrity anymore. Turns out, it was the GM/HC/QB situations after all! (although the fanbase has been representing like the league's absolute best, and I think that's actually helped in some road games)

Because Mack's base salary this season is a pittance.........$2M. That's all it would have cost the Raiders. The Bears dead cap hit would have been $38M.

Yeah I think Obada adds physicality that they don't otherwise have in any of their ends. He's not a good run defender but he will help wear down the OL in front of him. Also, not talked about is that Addison played the Lorax LB role a fair amount last year..........so 5 LB's with Addison is like 6.

I agree with the list...........except I'd put Spencer Brown 3rd on "good night". He really was excellent against Mack. If he doesn't turn into a guy who can't stay healthy that pick might turn out to be a HR for Beane.

The REALITY is that McKenzie was an absolute fumbling machine in Denver.........he's never really had much of a chance in Buffalo because the Bills and everyone else in the league knew about how serious the problem was. Go back and watch his punt return TD vs Miami last year......bobbled the catch. Roberts wasn't perfect but the pace that McKenzie has been on in his career is more than a fumble every other game. If you are an opposing team..........just kick it high and negate any return potential while increasing the likelihood of a muffed fair catch. It's tempting to put him back there because he is great at making people miss and fast enough to take it to the house, so the Bills wanted to get a look at him there, but I think so far it's not looking good.

No pressure in practice. He's the reserve slot WR on a team with an un-vaxed starting slot WR.........and he's on a cheap deal........he was never in any danger of not making the 53, IMO.

I've said it before...........but if Addison wants to be part of the team perhaps he will accept being cut and join the PS. He's not subject to waivers and his salary is guaranteed already.........this would help the team and allow him to come in later in the season fresh......hopefully for a strong playoff run or when there are injuries etc.. Obviously he could possibly pick up a vet min salary elsewhere if he were cut.........but sticking around on the PS is not a concept totally out of the realm if he wants to be in Buffalo.

6 fumbles in 11 games is a total sh*tshow in the return game............I was hoping maybe some separation from that horrible run in Denver would help but that fumble today was ridiculous......it was a fair catch, plenty of time to settle under it and cradle it in and instead it exploded off his pads............it's in his head, IMO.