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Rousseau was an honorable mention. Seems fair.........there have been some really impressive rookies and Rousseau and the Bills DL had one game where they put up numbers(thanks in great part to a ton of blitzing) but have otherwise not put up big plays to earn the accolades.

He struggled at guard coming right off of missing most of the prior season with a serious knee injury........it wasn't simply a position switch issue.

You mean like me when you said Edmunds was the unicorn of LB's? The ***** screwballs we get on this site.

Tell me about other LB's. I've gone into detail on the differences between Edmunds and the best. I've illustrated how others make plays given similar responsibilities. We will always have a group of homers like yourself on here who don't follow the rest of the league but want to tell everyone how unique what a certain Bills player brings to the table is. He's a good player..........but unfortunately his trajectory is a lot like Tyrod Taylor at QB.........Tyrod threw for more yards per attempt in 2015 than Josh Allen did last year........Edmunds came out the box making plays...........but in the process of trying to be more responsible they both lost that big play ability. Maybe Edmunds was destined to become a small play MLB once teams got tape on him............but I think more likely he just hasn't been able to combine all of the mental aspects of the game and still be able to play a style that's conducive to playmaking. That's why I say I am still hopeful that the game slows down for him. But 49 starts and 3000 snaps is A LOT of time to wait.

Well apparently McDermott says they should have done better too. I know you were a secretary at OBD 40 years ago and you picked up Ben Williams dry cleaning a couple times............but when the normally evasive Bills HC makes a point to criticize DL play then you can bet that he expects more from a DL full of highly paid and highly drafted players. They aren't a bunch of overachievers..........they basically spent almost ALL of their improvement chips on the DL this offseason.........it's fair to expect consistent pressure at home with a raucous crowd behind them. Now bring me a coffee and hold my calls.

Exaggerating the impact of certain Bills players? Nah. There are actually players who are making the best play they can on defense..........Edmunds is just rarely one of them..........that's why you don't see interceptions, forced fumbles, recoveries, pressures, sacks etc.. from Tremaine. It's not because he's not being put in position to make them. @GoBills808 thinks turnovers and therefore turnover differential is entirely random but the reality is that the differential is as decisive of a stat as there is in the sport..........and Edmunds has a LONG track record of not contributing to that number.

This is how I feel as well. They tend to take a glass 3/4 full approach to a lot of things Bills and I can see where that serves the model..........homers subscribe to read about the positive and at worst, the hope. But Cover 1 do tend to go out of their way to try to re-inforce their prior questionable takes. The recent one discussed here regarding Edmunds "creating" the Poyer interception against Washington is a good example. Routine play........room to have played it better.........but when you've been selling "high impact" and there aren't plays to show for it, you've gotta' sell greatness in the routine. Erik's take on what Star Lotulelei was going to bring to the Bills after he was signed was illustrated with a few plays that he pulled from Carolina tape..........one was a play where Lotulelei basically just stayed upright and Kuechly made a great, but fairly routine for him, TFL. Another was a "triple team" where the OL clearly made a mistake in protection that he was selling as him commanding 3 blockers. I get why it fits the business model but it's not accurate or even realistic at times.

He needs to find his inner-wrestler and take some revenge on Andy for this: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/573981-breaking-news-philadelphia-eagles-fire-sean-mcdermott

Nah. They were playing defense at a high level going into the AFCCG last season. But they were intimidated and beaten before they got off the bus that day(and to an extent in the earlier game with their play-not-to-lose gameplan). It wouldn't have mattered what their defensive ranking was. KC could have finished 15-1 if they needed to so they were going to get home field and a scared Bills team wasn't beating them.

It's a realistic take..........which some of you can't handle. What Washington was attempting to do on that play was dot Edmunds up for a quick 12 yards or so like the Dolphins did on a similar play(3rd and 13) the week prior. Give him credit for realizing that mistake was on tape and that Washington would try to help themselves to some of that low hanging fruit. But an instinctive MLB instead baits Heinicke into throwing that pass into double coverage and HE takes the responsibility to make the play on the football..........passing the responsibility off to Milano in chase mode was one way to do it but not the best way. And that's really what it comes down to more often than not with Tremaine.........he usually gets the job done.....like in a different play last week......helping make the tackle one yard short on a 3rd and 15 screen pass in Miami........but he almost never makes the best play that could have been made by a MLB in that position. And that's not to say a ton of MLB do make the best play......there are very few even above average performers at the position in the NFL. But it's a devalued position for a reason. Middling MLB play doesn't get you beaten...........middling CB play or pass rush does that.

Tremaine's coverage skills are even more legendary than Kiko at this point. As the saying goes........"once you get a reputation as an early riser, you can sleep til noon"...........TE49 played his best in coverage in 2019........that was before teams adjusted how they attack him in the passing game.........he has mostly been caught sleeping-in-late a lot in coverage since the beginning of 2020.

I love the "he subtly created" the interception. No. He was part of a double team with Taron Johnson........which called for him to take two steps back into coverage. Heinicke not recognizing that Edmunds' coverage responsibility was most likely the slot receiver was a just a bad read......even for a young QB. Where else was he going to go from that position on that play? The good pursuit/coverage by Milano was the tougher assignment to execute and the interception itself was more of an individual example of instinctive play by Poyer. The kind of instinctive play that Edmunds never makes. Edmunds subtly created that interception the same way that the other 9 players that merely executed their job in team defense did. The lack of big plays from Edmunds has become so glaring that those who apologize for it are desperately trying to assign extra credit for executing basic assignments. Pete Prisco might want to re-visit that NFL defensive player of the year prediction for Tremaine..........3 games in Edmunds looks the same. No big plays = no big hardware.

Never give a RB a huge contract.

Yeah, they don't need a great RB. In fact, I think having an Alvin Kamara or even Christian McCaffrey would actually take the ball out of the hands of Josh Allen and his receivers more than they should in addition to causing an allocation of $ and other resources better spent elsewhere. They have the kind of RB stable they need. Adequate and cheap.

You got the highlighted right. Extending Milano was a sign that they didn't feel Edmunds was an elite player who they HAD to retain like Tre or Josh. And on the other side of the equation.........if Edmunds had played at that elite level and didn't get treated like Tre or Josh his representation probably would have advised him to hold out or not practice with the team like TJ Watt just did. At this point I think both parties know that they want to see more..........the Bills want more impact from Edmunds and his representation is going to want more than 75% of what Darius Leonard signed for.

Not only that but when you have QB's who can throw for 8.0 yards per attempt...........handing it off to a top RB for 5 yards per attempt is a much less productive play. And as good as a guy like Alvin Kamara can be out of the backfield..........he is a career 8 yards per reception guy. Better off throwing it to the dink/dunk slot receiver like Cole Beasley who will average 10+ if you don't want to push it down the field for REAL yardage. The running game has it's place but it's no substitute for a good passing game in today's NFL.

You are mixing era's. There aren't many(if any) RB's that can produce like that for long periods because those kind of athletes don't play RB anymore.........it's a devalued position so those guys play defense or WR now because that's where the money is. There also wasn't the same "middle class" of receiving TE's that there are now in the days of the superstar, long career RB's.

1. Standard negotiation talk. "We need to get your deal done now so we can pay your teammates." The structure of Josh Allen's deal wasn't going to vary so much that it would have ANY impact on whether they signed Edmunds or not. 2. You don't see any logic in that? So if Edmunds were a dominating, first team All Pro last season you don't think they would have worked out an extension this offseason? Tre White got his deal done after year 3.........not because they had cap space to burn........because he was a proven All Pro. There was no question about Tre White......his worth was established as elite. Josh Allen?.......his worth was also established as elite. Easy decisions to extend immediately after season 3. Edmunds worth is not nearly as in focus as that.........what's illogical is to claim that it is.

Yeah, Lamp not even ending up on the team was a notable disappointment from camp, IMO.

Yeah the "I always play at 305-310" stuff was nonsense.........he was a fatter and less athletic player in the prior two seasons in Buffalo. The Miami game was definitely the most impactful game he's played for Buffalo snap-for-snap. Less so this past week but still better. The downside of playing more aggressively may turn out to be injuries....................he's already missed a game with a calf injury after starting 78 straight games to that point and is now also dealing with a groin injury.......but the player he was in 2018 and 2019 was replacement level so give me the more athletic version for half a season over the traffic cone for a full one.

I know this is a popular excuse for Edmunds not getting extended. But the two contracts are no more dependent on each other than any of the other signings they made this offseason..........or any more limiting than in the consecutive transactions of signing Tre White and Dion Dawkins long term while also adding Stefon Diggs long term contract. Allen was signing his deal in 2021........and they've had a good idea where they would have to be on Allen's deal since at least the end of last season........more likely since last fall. Agreeing to the specifics was just a matter of time. If people think Beane/Overdorf were working day and night for 5 months to get Allen's deal done or that the STRUCTURAL variations of the contract were preventing them from drawing up the parameters of an Edmunds contract they are just wrong. Edmunds has not been extended because he's not forced the issue with his play..............he's still in the wait-and-see category.

I really don't know what Beane will do but I'd like to think that he won't extend Edmunds unless he makes what would be very noticeable strides. Right now 5 of the starters in the back 7 have cap hits over $9M next season..........and that's not counting Taron Johnson who they probably can't afford to re-sign.........it's hard to see that kind of investment working out in the long run. The cap is malleable but one would hope that they will be in a competitive window with Josh Allen for another decade plus and you don't want to be fighting the cap like New Orleans. Not even sure the Pegula's would be willing to do that. According to Forbes the Bills had become used to clearing $70M-$80M per season and last year they registered a loss of close to $20M (after taxes, depreciation + amortization so not necessarily a real loss but a near $100M swing in profit decline). Beane can want to push debt forward but that has to be a two way street with ownership.

He's shown flashes of being able to make these throws............the throw to Brown in the finale against Miami was another example. Then others he overthrows by 8-10 yards.........which is astonishingly inaccurate for a top NFL QB. I know he's worked on the mechanics of the throw and a good foundation is important but he needs to get a better feel for it within his arm. Control can be improved with the rest of the body but command of your pitches comes from being to make subtle adjustments from the shoulder down.

The fact that an extension isn't done already says A LOT about what they think about Edmunds. Those who think the Bills absolutely love what they see are oblivious to this rather obvious point...........if he had been playing like the All Pro they expected he'd be they probably would have let Milano walk and would have given Edmunds a huge deal this summer. Being able to extend both Allen and Edmunds from Beane's very first draft class would have been a huge feather in the cap for the GM. Picking Edmunds option up was only a mistake if you were hoping to get a comp pick for losing him though...........you are right that he has little trade value with that figure, modest production and looming free agency but someone with a glaring hole at MLB, a lot of cap space and no intention of wasting a 1st round pick on a devalued position would likely take him for at least a day 3 pick.

Yuck it up Mr. "nobody understands statistics like me". Tremaine Edmunds has played about 400 more defensive snaps in his career than Matt Milano. 😙 That's about the equivalent of 6 more full games of snaps. Not remembering that Milano has missed A LOT of time over his career shows a real lack of awareness on your part..........uninstinctive posting. Milano has come away with 12 turnovers in less snaps than Edmunds has taken to produce just 3. Keep thinking that all turnovers are random though...........turnover differential is arguably the most decisive team stat in the NFL so I guess winning is random as well.