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Yeah and Feliciano is nowhere near as bad as Colin Brown was..........but this Bills offense works best when Allen has a lot of time to throw the football. So the standard for quality at the guard position has to be at least "solid" for them to play offense like they want to. Feliciano has been less than that. We have people on this site who put the blame for some of the stalled drives on Allen not taking hand-picked check down throws............but that is exactly what defenses want the Bills to do in 2021......check it down.......run a lot of plays.......and give them an opportunity to create a negative play or a turnover or for the Bills to get penalized. This strategy works less efficiently when the offense is playing 4 down football.........as an article about 2 minute offense that @dave mcbride linked recently illustrated.......but in 3 down offense this is the way to defend an explosive passing game like Buffalo. The old axiom about 3 things can happen when you throw the ball and 2 of them are bad...............well now that could be 4 things can happen when you play dink and dunk football and 3 of them are bad.

Well the whole point of this thread is discussing trade options which line up well on paper. This is one of them. The Bills don't have cap space at this very moment only because they don't need it right now. If they need it, they can make it with a modest restructure of a contract or two. Not even remotely talking about a hard salary cap here. Norwell isn't in the last season of his contract but his base salary is high and they are a rebuilding team. Sometimes, usually in fact, offensive guard is one of the easiest positions on the field to replace adequately. The Bills are just caught with their pants down there this year. Creating an opportunity for the Jags to possibly extract a day 2 pick and perhaps a lottery ticket on a guy like Cody Ford in exchange for a player signed to a big contract by different leadership than Urban Meyer that they might not want to pay $20M to as they are schedule to over the next season and a half. These are the kind of situations that result in trades. It's how the Kelvin Benjamin deal went down. It wasn't a walk year deal. Waiting until players are in their walk years is how you get a 5th, 6th or 7th round pick instead of a 3rd or 4th because if the Jags were 2-6 at this point next year teams would be looking at taking Norwell's $7M remaining salary off the Jags hands as doing them a big favor. See the Zach Ertz trade. Ertz answered the offseason questions about his health and viability as a starting TE, the Cardinals were desperate for TE help, and still all Philly got was a 5th and another player who was a late rounder.

Yeah @Inigo Montoya is full of sh*t on this one...........the 90's Bills could get no peace out in public. My girlfriends sister lived in OP and was very good friends with the wife of a young Bills starter on the last SB team and I got roped into going out to eat with them all after the Bills beat the Raiders in the divisional round. I figured at least I was leaving the great eats of my tailgate to go somewhere like Salvatore's where the players could have their own room with family etc.. Nope, nothing like being outside in -30 windchill for 9 hours and then going to Applebees. He was a big public nice guy and local tv regular but he was PISSED about all the people coming up to congratulate him when he was trying to eat. Also, Inigo.......if you are trying to start a campaign to get Bills fans to stop slobbering all over Bills players and coaches in public........this ain't the place........it's mostly ex-pats here that aren't liable to even be in town to run into Bills. Take it to a broader social media platform.

High impact, in-season trades happen in the NFL. The Bills own Emmanuel Sanders was a recent example in 2019. He helped San Francisco reach the SB and was open on the long throw late in the game that likely wins the game for SF if Jimmy G doesn't air-mail it. As a fan who watched Bill Polian intentionally sit on his hands in the offseasons during the Bills SB run..........stubbornly determined to prove that his team had no weaknesses..........I think we should remember that the most important SB win is the first one. I still remember being astounded that San Fran traded Charles Haley to the Cowboys a week before the 1992 season........arguably the 49ers biggest rival historically even prior to their 90's matchups..........and somehow the Bills weren't in on that outright theft of talent despite their SB window being open. Not only did they not get a defensive identity game changer but Haley ended up helping another team beat them in the SB. But there is this idea among fans that moving some money around to add a difference maker automatically means a lesser team in the future.........and frankly that is neither necessarily true nor is it as important as giving yourself a better chance to a SB in this season.

The Bills have positions that they aren't exceptional at..........but LG might be the only position where they are often incompetent. As already discussed in other threads regarding possibly acquiring Andrew Norwell..........if I am the Bills opposition I am working to get my best pass rusher on the Bills LG. It stands out as a weakness in much the same way as it once did years ago with Colin Brown. Mitch Morse isn't very good and Dawkins has been inconsistent returning from covid........so it's proving difficult to cover for bad left guard play. I thought they had fixed the spot to some extent with the signing of Forrest Lamp........and Cody Ford turning out to be utterly useless has really hurt he just needed to be decent.

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Oh there are many "particular" reasons that this might be their best chance at a Lombardi. A conference without a dominant team........even the other top teams like KC and Baltimore have glaring weaknesses. An extremely favorable, easy schedule that a 1st place team rarely sees.........including a division of all non-playoff contenders, two with rookie starting QB's. Still being in the prime rookie QB contract window(yes this year and next Allen is still a low cap hit). It would be difficult to be MORE setup to win a Super Bowl than the Bills are right now. Unless you are the Belichick Patriots and can comfortably lose a bunch of starters every offseason and not miss a beat..........and the Bills have clearly been more of a continuity-based organization.......then you are likely to have windows of very different sizes over the course of a decade even if you have a great QB. Green Bay is an example of a team that has always played the long game with Rodgers and it's cost them. They got that SB very early in his career(2010 season).........catching the NFC in a down year and the only season where the Patriots were clearly the best team in the NFL but didn't reach the SB on a flukey loss to Rex and the Jets. If the latter doesn't happen..........Rodgers may be the Dan Marino of this generation.

Turner is right on this. Of course, he wasn't saying Edmunds could play faster and better before..........he was always pretending that the criticisms of his late reactions and inability to get off of blocks........weren't accurate.........which was simply disingenuine. That is unfortunate, I think he has a good understanding of the game but if you aren't objective you might as well be an ESPN talking head just saying what sells. Edmunds has absolutely made strides so far this season.

Yep, when you get a franchise QB the dopes always assume the team has a decade of dominance ahead. In October of 2000 if you said the Peyton Manning Colts would only win 1 SB over the next 11 seasons........that would have seemed ridiculous.........the future was theirs.......by A LOT..........an inevitable dynasty. The Bills may eventually field better teams.........but maybe they won't ever have a better chance at a SB than this season.

Daryl Porter. He was the player who was assigned blame for wandering toward the ball and not staying in his lane and allowing Dyson a free run to the end zone. As for some of the guesses............Rob Johnson couldn't care less about being blamed for anything............Bruce DeHaven is long dead.........Wade has made it clear that it wasn't his decision to bench Flutie so if Wiley was blaming it on the QB choice the guy who made that is also long since dead. So nothing he said leads anywhere but toward Daryl Porter. A well liked reserve DB who screwed up but the Bills made so many mistakes that day that they left themselves vulnerable to a bad officials call.

Norwell has a $12M base salary this season. I assume the acquiring team would take on the prorated portion of that figure. If that's the case, his salary is high enough that waiting a week or two would save considerable cap room for a strapped team like Buffalo.

You've just shattered Yolo's world. All this time he's not been getting information first to the people on bizarro TBD. How can you be named "you only live online" and not know about billsfans.com? Apparently, it happens. That's where all the banished go. Kicked out, embarrassed themselves too much to feel comfortable here anymore and even fired mods.

Yeah it's the blocking. The backs are ordinary, but fine. As @ngbills mentioned above.........a guy like Andrew Norwell would be a big upgrade. Lotta' money to fit under the cap but that LG position might be the biggest weakness on the team right now. Maybe put a stud next to Morse and that will keep him serviceable for the rest of the season if not give the team the chance to give Feliciano(he is a much better center) or Bates some run at center. I hate using early picks on interior OL, plucking established players in UFA is a sweet spot for that and this would sorta be like doing that. McBeane know Norwell. Former All Pro with Panthers.

Feliciano is most concerning to me. If I am game planning the Bills that's the man I want my best pass rusher on. Maybe Beane can pull a rabbit out of his hat and trade for former Panther and current Jaguar Andrew Norwell this week to plug the hole at guard. It would cost them something and he has $9M or so of salary left due this season but they are in SB contention and that's what you do when you are thisclose.

I think the objective should be to disincentivize the punt option.........giving the team the average net punt result would appeal very much to the Dick Jauron's of the world who endeavor to take the excitement out of the game. I'm also not sure if punts from deep in your end tend to average 40 yards net. Hence my thoughts about a less appealing 35 yard flip from within the 50. Definitely make playing aggressive in your own end more important.....a lousy team can't lean on having the better undrafted free agent punter to help them flip the field back in their favor. Also gets punters out of the game in general. Who could possibly miss punters?

Sadly, the reality is that the penalties add drama and nothing bonds fans to their team quite like the injustice of being penalized..........so there isn't any motivation for the league to work to reduce penalties in front of packed, energized venues. They are at least taking steps to streamline the penalizing process though with the sky judge stuff. That actually also serves to create more drama because then fans can't blame a specific official which makes them feel even more wronged.

I am all for taking kickoffs and punts out of the game entirely. Mostly a waste of time. Just give the team the ball at the 25 after a score and instead of punts allow the team to flip the field 35 yards from inside their own 40 and half the distance from thereafter. Get to midfield, the best a "punt choice" gets you is giving the opponent the ball at their 25. As for the holding........the NFL is obviously on a mission to reverse the narrative that they didn't throw any holding penalties last year. The game was better last year with less holding calls.

1) Correct........you have no sense of humor about the worst team in pro sports for the last decade. 2) If you are such a big fan.........where are your Sabres season tickets located during these lean attendance times when it is so desperately needed? As soon as the coin in the coffer rings, your soul to super fandom springs! Tangible proof of your fan greatness or it's probably a lie. Hokey stories about listening to games on transistor radios doesn't help make payroll.

I think they are very invested in keeping the young players, and rookies in particular, fresh for late in the season. If this is a SB run......it's less than 1/3 of the way into the season. They aren't used to playing a full NFL season so perhaps that's the reasoning. Guys like Addison and Hughes are used to playing long seasons.

yeah they've had a stretch in each season where it seemed like they were weary of the process..........but they rebounded to finish well. I think the defense just got worn down last night. They were playing well early but they haven't played a lot of snaps in general this season so all that run blocking seemed to wear them down faster than you'd hope. The Titans defense is physical.......but they are lousy.........it was really on the Bills offense to bury the Titans defense with a barrage of points early while the Bills D was still fresh. But the Titans D held up in the red zone and that gave their offense an opportunity to wear on the Bills D. Settling for too many field goals in the red zone is a common denominator in their last 3 losses.

They should have played better and won.........the Bills are the better team........but that wasn't a bad loss...........it was one of just 3 road games on the entire schedule that looked like it would require an "A" effort to win. The Pittsburgh game was a BAD loss........they had no business winning in Buffalo.

When your first name ends in "oris" you really NEED a nickname.

My opinion of these kind of plays is if you could barely get the minimum 10 yards to accomplish a first down then you didn't do your job well........certainly not well enough to complain about some other person(s) making a judgement call on the spot of the football.

Is this frantic post the denial stage of grief? It was a tough loss.........but the AFC really hasn't started taking shape yet even........hopefully 14 more games left to play so worrying about finishing the season is looking too far down the road, IMO.

I agree that drive was crucial and Allen taking that sack was a very critical mistake at a terrible time by him. But when one play or even one drive is the difference........then you didn't play well enough to deserve to win. They played themselves into a slug fest with bad red zone play and settling for field goals. When you play the Titans you gotta' decapitate their defense and then tee off on Tannehill..........they accomplished neither and were fortunate to still have a chance at the end.