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He was elite in 2018........the first year of his contract. He was Devin Singletary 2021 level in 2019. He's been garbage in 2020-2021. So year 5 of his contract he's returning to 2018 level of play?

The Packers have turned over their roster MANY times since they last won the SB............it's not as simple as saying they've messed up their current roster. They chose to keep a bad HC in McCarthy around and not address the offensive skill needs in round 1 or free agency for a decade prior to the Lafleur hiring...........so for most of his prime Rodgers was pulling most of the weight by himself.............in recent years they've not been able to add depth around Rodgers and Adams, all while continuing the prior trend of not drafting players to help the offense in round 1.

RB's who can make big plays ARE a dime a dozen..............if you have players and a scheme that makes it easy for them to make them. Case in point........the 2015 Bills..........Karlos and Gillislee tore it up in helping the Bills lead the entire NFL in big plays on offense.......and they both AVERAGED 5.5 yards per carry. So enough with the hyperbole. A better RB would be nice but the last thing you want is to throw the ball less...........Josh Allen should average 8 yards per pass attempt, the greatest RB ever would only run for 6....................and the more you invest or believe in a RB the more likely that you give away offense by handing it to a RB. Motor is a very productive RB..........consistently high ypc in his career......only 5 RB's who carried the ball as many times as him averaged more ypc than him in 2021.........and only 5 RB's ran for more 20+ yard gains than him in 2021. And as far as Barkley..........even if he gets as healthy as he can at this point.......he may still suck. There is certainly no guarantee he will return to his 2018 form 5 years later.

Probably not much........RB is a position where you gotta' be able to carry the load to get paid...........he only had 46 carries TOTAL counting regular season and 3 playoff games. And he was active for 16 total games in 2021. Probably a minimum deal with incentives.

Motor is better than Allgeier.

Meh........just sign Fournette then. People act like RB's are hard to find or something.

He was fun to watch when tuning into BYU games............apparently he had some fumble issues that I didn't see in the games where I caught him............but regardless I don't think there are any RB's I'd spend a pick in the top 3 rounds on in this draft. Bills don't need to over-draft runnin' bax...........they need to find a late round or UDFA RB and sign a veteran RB or two to add to the mix. Jerrick McKinnon and James White are a couple guys who might be dirt cheap that could be nice additions.

Per wikipedia he is from Brooklyn and he and his brothers founded "Nobody Beats the Wiz" electronics store. Sold his share before that store tanked in the 90's and made a killing in Washington DC area real estate for a couple decades. Invested HEAVILY in Buffalo area real estate in recent years.

"messing up the roster" are your words..........so don't put them in quotes like I said that. They've just never invested heavily into Rodgers side of the ball in the draft............and while LaFleur has brought a better offense to Green Bay......... IMO Rodgers "prime" was during the McCarthy era, not his late 30's. The Packers don't have a very deep or balanced offense..........Rodgers and Adams have carried them to big records playing in a feeble division..........but in the playoffs that hasn't proven to be enough against top defenses. I do think Rodgers has looked tired at the end of the past two seasons.........but the fact remains he has deserved those regular season MVP's.

Exactly. And the much maligned Bills RB's averaged 4.3 yards per carry last season. Barkley averaged an ANEMIC 3.7 yards per carry last season. It would be an utterly stupid trade to take on Barkley and that absurd contract............and since it's guaranteed Barkley has no motivation to adjust the deal. It would take the Giants giving the Bills Barkley AND their second round pick to take him off their hands at $7M, IMO................it's a broken player with a bad contract that plays a devalued position. Makes no sense to trade for Barkley..........just big-name jibber-jabber.

I wouldn't be happy with $8M/year long term for Edmunds based on what Edmunds has done so far.........you can't afford to pay everyone on defense and the line AT LEAST should draw at those who aren't playmakers. $8M might not seem like much but they are already basically at the point where every starter aside from Dane Jackson is on a 1st round or veteran contract..........you need to be able to fill a few positions on defense with $1M or less kinda' contracts. Translation.........."some people say he sucks.........I wouldn't say THAT" 😉

The same goes for modest additions though.............so let's say they sign a RB for $1.5M in free agency..........provided they have 51 players under contract at the time the cap hit would only be $1.5M minus salary #51........which if it were $700K in your example, would mean that the signing would only increase the Bills cap figure by $800K not $1.5M.

Yeah the hyperbole about cost/benefit analysis..........."if we were more aggressive.........we would lose 10 players later"............that's right up there with 2018 McDermott saying "would we like to score 50 every game? Of course" when media were asking him why their offense was the worst the league had seen thru half the season since the merger. McDermott got on board with doing what it takes to score LOTS of points in 2020............hopefully, despite that rhetoric above, Beane realizes he needs to push the envelope a bit more this offseason.

Naturally not a lot to take away from what they said...........but I actually had somebody argue with me on TSW a couple weeks ago that Beane didn't trade Watkins and Darby in 2017 to accumulate assets to trade up for a QB in 2018...........whoever you were...........Beane re-iterated that was why they made those trades in his PC today. Not sure why he was getting tossed softballs like "tell us again about getting Josh Allen" but whatever.

Making the offense better at what Josh Allen does from the pocket..........that should be the focus.........and Beane seems to know that based on his comments about OL being priority #1. In theory, 12 personnel would be an extension of improving the OL while, with a player like Gronk, still being able to spread the field in the passing game. If they can get better push in the run game, that can only help the play action game, which Allen is among the best in the league at executing. Because of the finish of the season, fans forget that the struggles at the LOS lead to a huge drop in average pass attempt production for Allen.........from 7.9 in 2020 to 6.8 in 2021..........which isn't something we should have ever seen again after his breakout 2020. But 125+ combined pressures and sacks will do that. Running Allen 10 times per game to cover up for blocking issues worked well down the stretch but isn't a 20 game season solution.

Should be in the "do you bitcoin?" thread OTW.

Would be interesting to know how many people would be pro adding Kareem Hunt but against adding Gronk. Some of the rationale used on this board...........

These takes are hilarious. Please quit your Bills fandom if a local kid who has gone on to become the greatest football player ever produced by the area..........a HOF'er and legit "best of all time at his position" discussion player...........comes back to play for the Bills.

Why is this a "newsflash"? Gronk put up 802 yards at 14.6 yards per reception and 6 TD in 2021..........those are huge numbers would be all-time kinda' numbers for a Bills TE. If they release Cole Beasley, who put up a punchless 692 yards on 8.5 ypr and 1 TD..............they save $6.1M. Roll a couple million of Gronk's $7M into a voidable 2023(like Sanders and Addison this year) and it's a net savings on this years cap to get a player who gives you MUCH more explosiveness in the passing game and an elite blocker in the run game..........and TE is a position where they have ZERO depth.

Good point. That was the case with John Brown. Wiffed the first attempt.........got him the next year.

I left him out because I think Rex really thought he was just going to be able to use Ragnuts to stuff the run............nobody in their right mind ever thought he could be anything but a liability if forced into coverage responsibilities, did they? What a draft that was. Off-the-bus starters!

This is what the employees of the Bills whose responsibilities are field/facility management have been told. Apparently they almost put a heating system underneath the turf in the last renovation.

This is a problem with drafting 9 defensive players and a replacement QB with their last 10 #1 picks.............they have done well to add Davante Adams and Aaron Jones to their roster at much lower draft slots than the players they've turned out to be...............but the drop-off to the rest of their playmakers is huge because they've not invested in that side of the ball. We've seen over and over again that you can transform a bad defense in free agency..........but it's hard to maintain a good defense for a long period of time regardless of the investment. So why use your franchise building blocks all on defense? When you have a franchise QB..........you CAN build long term success on that side of the ball. Packers tried to cheat the system. Almost worked the past couple of seasons, but maybe if they had been QB-centric in his prime they wouldn't be at odds with Rodgers now............and they'd have a deep enough offense that they could move on from Adams. Bills need to take note of how Green Bay has messed up being blessed with the best QB in the conference for the past decade.