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Yeah I am a Harrison Phillips fan but he is a $4M player IMO. Beane has and unfortunate history of paying $6M year for guys to be BACKUPS and $4M for special teamers so a lot of fans have developed a skewed idea of what value is. They need to be able to fill that spot for that kind of money. That's what they SHOULD have paid Star Lotulelei in 2018............that's what his projected value was at the time before Beane blew the got-dam lid off of that. I hope they are developing a better understanding of how they need to manage these positions cost wise.

Thinking that Robert Foster was going to evolve into a WR1 or stud WR2..........coming off a Gabe Davis like 500+ yard 20 ypc season........could very well be why the Bills passed on the likes DK Metcalf and AJ Brown and instead traded up for Cody Ford. 🤢 This is why you don't just take for granted that players will keep improving @BuffaloBillsGospel.

If you add $20M to each team's salary cap...........then $20M is just the new zero. The cap is malleable.........right now the Bills project to have $54M in cap room for 2023..........they can easily use that room and space in 2024 etc.. to sign useful players. That will increase with cuts........and go down with the $10M Oliver option.........but it's a pretty good idea of very readily available room to add "useful" players now. The issue is whether or not the Bills self-impose a limit by not re-strucuting deals to push the cap hit into 2023..........in which case careless spending on ST and role players becomes a NOW problem rather than just a bad tendency that limits them over time.

Yep......everybody in that division, Denver..........a whole lotta' places. MLB is like the guard position..........teams want to sign those as free agents because they will be relative bargains.

Let Robert Foster EAT!

Yes..........even the great Aaron Donald without a franchise QB isn't winning a Super Bowl. Only one position has franchise changing impact in and of itself. And mind you.........I was THE "draft Aaron Donald" guy on this board. He was, IMO, the obvious best defensive player in the draft. I started a thread about it. I got about 5 "we don't need a DL" responses and that was all TSW had to say about that. I've made this point about first round picks before........if you simply drafted a QB in round 1 every year your franchise would be better off than the relative randomness of drafting other positions. The Bills were a prime example of this............when they made the playoffs after 16 years of being issued an early-mid first round selection.........NONE of those first rounders was on the field when they finally made the playoffs in year 17. First round picks are overrated.........I'm all about using them efficiently to get the most out of your team...........but if you can make the playoffs with NONE on your roster prior to that year's choice.........what does that tell YOU?

I know we have some people on here who can't understand the salary cap.............you obviously being one...........but if you add $20M to the available cap space of every team it doesn't alter the Bills buying power relative to the rest of the league. Salaries would just be higher. It's not that complicated. Keep in mind that the "terrible" cap situation that McBeane claimed to inherit was a team with *only* $30M+ in cap space going into the 2017 offseason. In a market where the buying power is $20M higher per team..........Beane would be in the exact same position he is now relative to the rest of the league.........it's ridiculous to claim that Beane and the Bills were more adversely affected. There is no logic to your line of thinking at all.......which is another example of why I mock your screen name. 😉

You feel certain he's getting $1M.........if that's the case that's fine..........I think the timing of the signing suggests more. I didn't like the Siran Neal deal either.......but at least with Neal I think there is a possibility of more of a role on defense. Kumerow is like 30. He is all that he is likely to ever be now. I know these guys are good ST'ers but they have 9 picks in the upcoming draft.........probably the most athletic group of players ever to enter the league........they will be able to grab special teamers and coach them up...............but if they are paying just $2M above league average for 4 ST'ers this season that $8M limits their ability to add a difference maker on the offensive or defensive side of the ball.

I don't know if I mind it or not...........I actually assumed he would be back...........I just know that if the signing happened in May it would be for the league minimum and not impact the Bills available cap space. Right now.........the timing would indicate that it is a priority re-sign..........more money and more impact on available cap space. The run-it back...........overpay a bad punter on a long term deal and then a few guys for around league minimum........approach to free agency last offseason didn't address their limited but ultimately impactful shortcomings this past season.

I don't think the Bills would draft him even if he made it that far...........which seems inconceivable at this point..........but they could just as easily end up with a JAG cornerback(for instance) at pick #25 who ends up a lesser player than UDFA Levi Wallace was for the team as they are likely to get a franchise cornerstone player. As I've always said..........any first round pick not used on a QB1 prospect is an overrated asset. So much of the game is about who you have at QB.

That is irrelevant.........the cap was lowered for all teams. Going into the 2019 offseason they had $90M in cap space. After the 2020 season they already couldn't even afford to address any of the issues they claimed were responsible for their AFCCG loss. He's had a few notable good deals with his own veterans(Dawkins and White).........and the bargain 1 year deal for Daryl Williams............but otherwise he hasn't done well wrt managing the salary cap.

Well if it's $2.5M-$3M aav..........then after deducting the league minimum that will reduce their cap space by around $2M. I would expect the Bills will be shopping around actual starting jobs to veteran CB's and DT's for around $5M aav.........crying poor.........so anything over league minimum for Kumerow might be the difference between getting a good veteran at those positions or not.

I think we can be upset at the likely notion......due to the timing of the signing............that he got more than league minimum...........which, like with Siran Neal last week, will cut into what they can spend. The reason why Beane has himself in worse cap shape than when he inherited the team..........despite a QB technically still on his rookie deal..........is a high volume of overpays. Be it the Star Lotulelei or Trent Murphy type contracts or the mountain of $6M-$3M aav deals for veteran backups and role players. They need to rely more on their scouting and draft to fill ST and backup roles and use their cap to add a difference maker or two. If they aren't going to be willing to kick cap hits down the road...........as Beane has indicated they won't(we'll see)............then they need to be more frugal with the role players.

Agree........coach K blows.

As shallow as the class of FA guards is I'd expect Saffold to get a starting contract on the open market.

If Kumerow signed for the league minimum then maybe you are right. But Green Bay is in much worse cap shape than Buffalo so they weren't likely to be be in the market for a 5th or 6th receiver for above league minimum.

Punts and kickoffs can't be dispensed with soon enough. All they do is keep non-players.......like Haack, Kumerow, Matakevich and Taiwan...........employed while giving us extra tv timeouts after touchbacks, fair catches and balls rolling to a stop while the clock runs.

The tantalizing part of trading for Metcalf is the very low cap hit in 2022 paired with him being the receiving equivalent of Josh Allen..........Allen combines elite size and arm strength...........Metcalf is elite size and speed. They could end up losing Metcalf to free agency in a year..........but if they draft for need in round 1 they could end up with a Shaq Lawson type JAG with that pick also. There are no guarantees that it would result in a SB for Buffalo........but it wouldn't be unlike KC trading for Orlando Brown last year...........KC might have been emboldened to do that after the paltry return they had gotten from 1st rounder Clyde Edwards Helaire the year before.

Yeah shocker is

Tipster has somehow managed to defeat @Virgil's "idea plan" thread by only the narrowest possible of margins. C'mon bro's.

I believe that's right.............but anyone who doesn't know the difference between trading for and "signing" a player isn't somebody who is deeply "in the know".

Bills twitter needs to start talking Mitchell up..........."Don't accept anything less than $20M from Indy this year Mitch!........they were going to pay Carson $30M!"

"According to the Journal of Orthopedic & Sports Physical Therapy, athletes who return to sport prior to nine months following an ACL injury are at a seven-fold greater risk to suffer a future ACL tear." If Williams is there at 25.........he is very likely the most potentially impactful player left on the board based on what the players have actually put on tape.........IMO he was the best player on the field in the Alabama v Georgia games.........which speaks volumes. But if they take him we should be prepared for the possibility that he doesn't play in 2022. Because even when he is ready to play he is a raw talent at the WR position and without 100% of his speed back yet he may not be better than the more refined options they may have at the position.

Yep and @Thurman#1 or the equivalent would be on here defending the Bills and talking about how well worth the picks Wentz was and that the $30M cap hit was irrelevant.

A single first rounder *might*.........but agree that it's not nearly as likely as many fans believe.........it's about a 50/50 proposition that a 1st rounder even plays well enough that the team picks up their 5th year option. And this draft is particularly full of boom or bust or slow developing types in round 1, IMO. Daniel Jeremiah said it best IMO...........the strength of this draft will be the ability to get 2nd round talents in the 4th round. It's the depth of athletes. But a strength is not likely to be getting players who tear it up statistically as rookies. People are freaking out about the numbers that the 3 Georgia DL put up at the combine..........but the 3 of them only combined for 10 sacks in 2021. Expectations for first rounders are always too high but probably going to be even more unreleastic with this class.