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Did not follow Peterman but wonder whether or how much of his tape (and the reactions to it) can be explained by the short game I gather was favoured by 'Cuse. Or maybe that was a reflection of perceived QB limitations?

I think its prolly a little early to be closing the book on Peterman's arm strength. In the off-season before his last year with the Rams Brees claimed to have increased his arm strength by 60-70%% (maybe he was exaggerating a little lol) through core strength workouts. And some QBs with good arm's when they came into the league only got better as they matured as physical specimens and players - AR, TB. Peterman is in his early 20's. Even without the benefit of a NFL strength and conditioning programme (the benefit of which of course he will have) his strength should continue to increase till his late 20s. I don't think we should conclude that his arm strength cannot improve, especially if all we are asking him to do is throw with a little more zip for what 20 or at most 25 yards. The deep out relies as much on the receiver running a good pattern and getting the DB to open his hips too early and the QB being able to throw the ball with a quick release, accurately and with anticipation (all of which it sounds like Peterman can do) than arm strength pure and simple. If the only thing standing between Peterman and a starting job is nailing the deep out, I don't think I would bet against him. I wish all these kids the best success but it sure would be an eye opener if Peterman found more success than the guy the Chiefs traded down for.

Well no actually. Whether by unenlightened design or pure chance thats pretty much the way it actually played out.

Well if he turns into a solid long term backup to our 2018 franchise guy that represents an important step forward.

They have got a similar situation in Chicago (except MT went second overall of course). Just signed Glennon to a nice new contract. Wonder how long before Trubby supplants him. One would certainly expect Tyrod to start but unlike some posters I'm not sure how well he will be able to execute a WCO. I would have expected that to present some real problems for him. Peterman on the other hand seems a fit - and we are told coaches get a big man crush on him. We shall see.

I've never seen the guy take a snap. All I know is what I've read, including what I've read here. If all of that is true then I love the pick. Sounds like he already does what teams wait years to find out whether their highly drafted QB studs can learn to do - and usually they are disappointed. Frankly I'm tired of watching athletes trying to play the position - and basically failing. The most valuable QB attributes by far reside above the shoulders, not below, and are all functions of the rare ability to process a lot of information quickly and react accordingly. Sounds like we know Peterman can do that and can do it now. Thats already most of the battle won IMO. If his arm strength needs improving maybe he can work on it. But you don't need great arm strength to be a great QB. Joe didn't have a cannon, but Kyle Boller did. I hear lots of references to Chad Pennington (before his surgery). If Peterman's arm is in that ballpark, it should be good enuf.

I don't know that I'd say Gregory is an ass. To me he is clearly someone with a dependency that he is unable to manage. Given what he is losing out on I'd say he is unable to behave otherwise. That should not inspire scorn but pity. It doesnt help matters that in the broader discussion there is controversy and little consensus on whether pot use should continue to be criminalized with societal standards and attitudes perhaps moving away from this position. What is beyond doubt however is that the synthetic opiods that NFL team doctors readily dispense are a far greater problem and societal scourge. A lot of unenlightened sanctimonious hypocricy from the League if you ask me. They should lighten up the punishment for this. Periodic suspensions may be appropriate but If this is the only problem a player presents he should not be deprived of the opportunity of pursuing his career. Better to live one's life free of all stimulants/depressants, but those who are unable or unwilling to do so generally do not face such serious consequences and many of them are "privileged" with respect to the benefits that they are able to access as the fruit of their special talents.

Yes. With the emphasis on young. NFL quality edge rushers are to young tackles what a major league curve ball is to AAA prospects looking to make the big team in spring training. Look, I like the pick a lot. I think he is a really good prospect and has a chance to play a long time in the league. He is a very good athlete and so we shouldnt be surprised if he learns how to protect the passer. That is certainly not something we will ever see from Mills.

Yes, I can believe he can be effective against the bull rush, but they do say, as others do, that he is susceptible to good edge rushers. He would get more of that on the left side but he would see it on the right as well, especially if he has difficulty adjusting to nfl edge rushers. I think thats probably why some see him as interior O-line, as did the coaches at the senior bowl.

Christian D'Andrea (Superbowl Nation), Fanrags (Kyle Crabbs), Draft Profile NFL.com (overcommits, opens door to looping rushers), underdog dynasty.com (says he grabs, negating his long reach and allowing the defender to maneouvre around him)...Somehow I think you can probably check this stuff out for yourself if you are so inclined. And why would many project him inside (and yes I know about CG) at the next level. Sure he is probably capable of playing right tackle, but dont you think in that case maybe best suited to a power run blocking scheme?Not saying he cant improve his pass pro, hes a good athlete and all of these guys are wip, but right now I dont think there is much doubt that his forte is run blocking.

Just about every source reviewing him says this is a weakness. One reason he got his reps inside at the senior bowl, where he did very well btw.

Right, apparently will struggle in pass pro versus quick outside rushers. Mills is ok in run blocking too but is a turnstile. DD has quick feet, is athletic, gets to the second level and can operate in space. Maybe as some have suggested he winds up replacing Ritchie eventually. Ha ha maybe coach thought he was getting another citizen above suspicion.

Yes

Casserly says he plays slower than his timed speed. Great hands, great body control, good size, very good route runner, great attitude. Zay Jones will be just fine.

Yeah, the slow guy who kept running away from people. 4:45 not too shabby.

Hard work and an outstanding combine.

Definitely not T.J. Will pack on another 15lbs, then think M. Colston. Hes prolly going to develop into a good #2 WR. Tyrod will love this guy.

Was likely on his way to Carolina.

Didnt he shut out the # 1 pick? Not too shabby. Of course hes probably off our board, liike the steal of Rd 1.

Opinions on QBs can differ, although the Bills still need to draft one (or two) this year and/or next. I would have liked a 2nd this year instead of a third. Chiefs believe they have landed a franchise type prospect at the all important position after all. Still I would have liked this trade a lot more had they taken Foster at 27. Why not take the guy who projects elite instead of just good pro? I get the character stuff but would you pass on L. Taylor or Ray Lewis because they are not choirboys? I just hope we are not in Ralph/Jauron territory or it will be a long 4 years or so.

Hoping McD does not turn into the ghost of Dick Jauron, condemned for a certain time to walk the earth of OBD.

So Foster was not on our board because of character issues. Got it coach.

There was a franchise difference maker there at 27 and we didnt get him. Nothing against White but why pick for need when you can pick for need and BPA (by far) all in one.

Buy time.

Yeah. Screw the value chart. Just another meaningless statistic without context.