starrymessenger

No bad guy type character issues but some have questioned his desire to be great, without which he won't be at the next level. I have no idea if there is any foundation to this in fact.

Elway was a great QB and the Broncos weren't getting it done. Terrell Davis was the difference maker. I get it that he was a sixth round pick (so was Tom Brady) but that surely didn't reflect his value. In a traditional NFL offence a HoF back is definitely worthy of a top 10 pick and if the Vikes never made it to the promised land it certainly wasn't because they blew their # 7 pick in 2007. And thats why many project LF to Jack at # 4.

Casserly says Allen is the real deal and will be better than Julius Peppers. If 2 QBs go top ten who knows he could be there.

Yes and thats not the first time its been said and it makes a lot of sense. Howard would also be a worty pick at 10 IMO.

Please. I have no hate for the Tide. I prolly admire the product Saban puts on the field year in and year out more than any other college program. I love their swag. If I pull against them sometimes its out of respect for their greatness and a desire to see the underdog pull an upset (I have no affiliation). And of course players from all teams can and do screw up majorly, but there have been concerns/questions about lapses in discipline at Bama for a number of years running now. And maybe the spotlight shines a bit more brightly on them because some of their screw ups have been very or relatively high end prospects like McClain, Dareus, and now CK. In the later two cases it hits uncomfortably close to home. So when Foster has a bad look at the combine and follows up with a bonehead failed drug test it can become a case of twice bitten thrice shy.

We are not the Steelers. For some reason (we're just not good enuf) we are unable to find the mid to late round gems at the WR position. So I'm fine with risk managing the pick by going for a consensus legit high to mid first round guy, provided that we don't pay twice the freight if you know what I mean. I agree there re lots of holes and lots of talent at the front end of the draft, so where are you inclined to go with our first pick.

Huh? A guy with RF's skill set is exactly what we need in coach's scheme. Or maybe you were just kidding? Question is, who is this guy? Donta Hightower or Rolando McClain. Care to roll the dice?

This is a serious red flag. He will drop, only question is how much. Can certainly see the Bills being gun shy after the Marcel experience. He could even be off their board for all I know.

Prefer Davis but I think they both can develop into legit # 1 targets. Would be happy with either one. Williams is a beast.

God what is it with these Bama guys? Still if he drops like a stone and is there for us in the second (which I doubt), I'd be sorely tempted.

Agreed, but where were those guys drafted (and I realize that Hill might have gone in the 3rd but for the baggage)? He is a premium talent (not to mention a really great kid) and in the right system he could well flourish. But I think you can find guys to fill that role in the pros sooner than find a franchise back like AP or LF, who is IMO the only RB likely to go top 10.

And if he doesn't pan out you grab another one. You do it until you find your guy. I really can't fathom the contrary arguments. It should be normal course draft management and policy. I don't like Watson (as a prospect - he is a super kid) but at the end of the day if the Bills feel he has a decent chance I don't question their taking a chance on him. Would rather MT or PM but would be fully onside with the philosophy and would get behind him 100%.

To me its a no brainer. SW is a great player who will stay healthy and perform admirably for the next two years. The reason I think this? Money. He needs to show the league that he can see the field consistently in order to sign a mega contract when his rookie deal is up, whether with the Bills or another team. I dont think anybody doubts his ability/skill set. I guess I'm saying I really dont think he is made of glass. Has had some bad luck and perhaps been a little careless.

I agree with what CF has written. I think that MT is the prospect that best projects to the next level from this years class. I also think he is a top 10 pick and the first QB off the board. I think he may be gone to SF at 2 if they do not find their QB in NE or Washington, though that would probably be a bad spot for him because he may be pressured to start too early and despite his high ceiling (IMO) he is in no way ready for that. Or the Jets may pick him at six. If he is there at 10 I think the Bills may well take the plunge and if they are inclined to go QB early I hope he is the guy. I would be depressed if Watson was an early Bills pick, or indeed if he were picked at all. As for Kizer we dont need another big athletic QB who is an inaccurate passer. MT has flaws to his game, specifically holding onto the ball too long and a startling failure to read a defence at times, leading to potentially disastrous, game changing results. This raises the main risk and concern. If these have been the issues in college there is of course the possibility that they will only get worse what with the speed and complexity of the pro game. Whoever picks him early believes or is hoping that these flaws are mostly explained by his being a one year starter and that his proven skill set will permit him to adjust eventually. Even Peyton Manning was a turnover machine his rookie year, and it took M.Ryan awhile to adjust.

Shame on the Jets. Even I thought that was a bonehead move.

Good points & thanks for the reminder. At least they seem to now be giving the position the attention it deserves.

Not sure I agree. To me the top prospects are the ones I mentioned and there is no way IMO that they are around in rd 2. The Bills already are short of picks this year relative to the postions they need to address so I dont see them trading up. If you are really serious about a QB to me you just go and get him. Or do you think they may be setting up to trade back and still nab the guy they want. Risky?

I agree. The fact that Pegs was on his horse checking out these prospects spoke volumes to me. So who do you think it is and what is the value spot? My gut tells me its MT or maybe Mahomes and the spot has to be 10.

Do teams really put in a lot of work just to set up smoke screens? Maybe they do. In a class like this year's maybe the smokescreen is to create confusion concerning which QB the Bills are really interested in so teams wont trade up ahead of them. Still I can't get rid of this feeling that if MT is there at 10 he is on his way to Buffalo. The team can now cut bait with Tyrod next year.

Of course.

Except more often than not when you pick a QB early you are drafting for need, and it happens every year and will happen again this year. How often is that QB really the BPA? Or are QBs really entirely in a class by themselves when it comes to drafting. In general terms of course drafting an inferior talent because of need is almost always a losing strategy.

Well that may be what he would (or would not) do, but I would not be surprised if three QBs come off the board in the first round and maybe 4 by the high second. If I'm right about the interest its not unlikely that one goes top 10 either.

Bills will be drafting a receiver (or two). Just not sure who or when. Both Williams and Davis will be good, and possibly very good at the next level. Neither would be a bad pick. My fav is Davis. I think his skill set is more diversified, will give you better YAC and is close to Williams as a red zone threat. Having said that it may well be that the Bills will address the need later in the draft. They have so many holes to fill and there will be premium prospects at positions of need. If the Bama backer is there I can see coach drooling over him. If Allen falls he is the likely pick for sure. OJ Howard is a decent risk/reward guy and there a a couple of great safeties going top 15 if not before. Just no D. Watson please.

Absolutely agree on Watson. I love his competitive spirit and he is a great college QB. I just dont see any reliable and consistent indication of the passer instincts and accuracy needed indispensibly for success at the next level. He may wind up a marginal uptick to Tyrod, and maybe not. Chad Kelly is a more promising passer for development and he might even go undrafted. My fear is that Whaley may jump if Watson is there at 10 and repeat his EJ fiasco. Why? Because Doug just doesnt know QBs. Hopefully if he starts running to the podium somebody will tackle him before he gets there. The only QB in this draft whose ceiling is franchise guy is MT In my (inexpert and humble) opinion. Small sample size and lots of risk, but he would not have to start right away. If you are going to roll the dice on a QB, he should be the guy. Of course all things considered maybe you shouldnt be looking at QB at all at 10. And MT could be off the board anyway.

Agree. He is LK with perhaps less instincts/anticipation. He is awesome but I wonder whether and for how long he can play and remain healthy at the next level given his hyper aggressive style. Has had problems with stingers. If health is not an issue he would be a deserving pick at 10 fo sho.