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Devin Thomas. Second WR off the board after Donnie Avery. Neither is to be compared with C. Davis, who is an absolute stud and probably worthy of a top ten pick.

Even if the guy is not an agent I find the report credible. If you had just made 30 million you'd likely need a financial advisor.

This has been my view all along. Draft C. Davis, sign RW (or equivalent) and with Clay and (hopefully) a healthy SW and presto you have a top flight receiving corps. Get a QB that is a good fit for the WCO (like Foles) and this offence can be explosive. The 400 or so Tyrod rushing yards that you lose are more than made up for in a run game that is less predictable and harder to defence and you have wideouts that can excel in both the short passing game and who can take the top off as well.

If the Bills try and restructure Tyrod to me it must mean that they see some not insignificant upside to his passing game, in other words that his evident difficulties and lack of development as a passer are partly attributable to scheme, offensive philosophy, playcalling, lack of quality/availability of WRs ....If what we've seen so far over two years is really all you can expect signing him makes no sense to me unless he is truly only competing for a starting job and facing the possibility that he might serve as a backup if another QB outperforms him. Does anyone really see the Tyrod of 2016 running a WC offence, if thats the direction we go in? Not me.

If Tyrod can improve as a passer in a more balanced O I'm good with him. If not then somebody else.

Wow. And thats why I want Corey Davis

How did the hawk not catch it?

They win if Bennett does not play and Ben brings his A game.

Atl getting the calls today. No safety, AR gets clobbered in the head no penalty...

True very underwhelming but sign Woods (if you can) draft Corey Davis and guess what - your receiving corps is suddenly very good. So the solution is possibly out there, probably all depends on how you prioritize your needs (assuming Davis is there at #10. I would take him ahead of Williams.

I think we have to move past this idea that he can still be successful without an overhaul of his mechanics throwing the football. The great Aaron Rodgers is not good when falls back into his bad habits.

Not necessarily IMO. When on his game AR is IMO the best QB there is. But TBH I would not want to bet the franchise on him if what we were getting was the guy we saw in the first part of the season. That was not the MVP Aaron or the guy we've seen since they started their run. Whats the difference. Its quite simply the difference between good and bad throwing mechanics. Rodgers has a tendency to fall into bad habits and when he does it costs him and his team dearly. If AVP is responsible for cleaning up his technique and unleashing the Aaron we all know and love, which is a reasonable assumption, then that is an outstanding recommendation in and of itself. He might well be the right guy given our QB situation.

Its great to have a strong arm but when it comes to throwing a ball what goes on below the waist is as important as what you have attached to your shoulder. That is if you want to maximize velocity, touch and accuracy consistently. Consistency in every relevant skillset being the hallmark of a good NFL QB.

IMO good throwing mechanics are very important tho not sufficient. In other words it is possible to be sound technically and lack the other attributes that are necessary. Oh and if memory serves the Pack worked hard on Rodgers mechanics after he was drafted.

He's an intriguing prospect for sure. A lot to like. A major concern for me are his poor mechanics throwing the football. I'm a little puzzled by this because as a high school senior he was draftable as a MLB pitching prospect and good mechanics re proper footwork, weight transfer and release point are absolutely essential to throwing a baseball regardless of position but especially if you are a pitcher and even more so if, like him, you specialize in heat instead of junk. Thing is, as some have mentioned, his mechanics are spotty or inconsistent rather than flat out bad. In other words he executes properly sometimes but not always. When he does his passes are beautiful. Playing in college his arm, like Cardale's, is good enuf for him to get the ball where he wants it to go but I for one don't think that would be good enuf in the NFL. So I dont agree that you should take him as is and turn him loose and in that sense I see him as a project. How much of a project idk. The fact that he is more spotty rather than bad suggests that he may well be able to have his bad habits coached out of him without derailing (only adjusting) the rest of his game. Mechanics are all important IMO however. All of the good to great ones essentially have good basic throwing mechanics even if their styles differ, and btw I include P. Rivers in that. The fact that he can be accurate and throw with zip does have some upside tho since the chaos of live action often precludes perfect mechanical execution - happens a lot to some QBs like M. Stafford to mention one. Rodgers is in a class by himself in that regard. I have difficulty even fathoming how a human being can make so many perfect difficult throws while fully on the run. But if you look closely at his footwork when in the pocket, where its easier to see, I think you have to conclude his mechanics are sound even in unusual/extreme circumstances. To me, if you believe his mechanics can be cleaned up, he is a first round prospect and maybe even early.

Thanks.

Would like to see Brad but have to wonder what his interest would be in coming here. Not a move up and and he just got promoted to the same position on a better team. Maybe we are not interested because he is not interested.

Drop kicked Randy Moss out of Minny for fraternizing with the great satan. I like it.

Yeah I think it could help motivate them. Sure they know they are hated - and therefore derive special pleasure in rubbing their opponents nose in it. I think it was especially stupid because the Steelers have half a chance at least of beating NE. To me the difference in the Houston game was the quality of the players under centre and really not much else. You can like BR the person or leave him but he too is prolly a HOF guy. Big, big difference.

Have to love Watson's moxy but I think P. Mahomes in the 2nd appeals to me more than him at #10.

And I distinctly recall Drayton Florence delivering exactly the same message to Marcel Dareus lol. So I guess not all hope is lost.

The hire makes plenty of good sense. He's a respected QB guru and they've got what - TS and PL. Also a solid succession planning/continuity play if MMc moves on/up and Musgrave does well. Not to mention Broncos are loaded on both sides of the ball.

This makes sense to me. His intangibles are off the charts terrific and thats important but based on going an admittedly small sample size (in my case) his accuracy is not. He very clearly needs to develop as a passer IMO. There are no guarantees. If the Bills love the guy and think he has a decent chance of developing I could see them rolling the dice at 10. I have a hard time seeing that the risk is worthy of gutting the front end of a couple of drafts to move up.

Not a QB guru by any means (a necessary disclaimer). I admire his toughness. He has the arm too, but accuracy looks inconsistent (which in the end usually winds up meaning inaccurate or not accurate enuf to beat NFL defences). No way IMO is he anywhere close to being ready to start and would need a fair bit of grooming, maybe a couple of years. I realize he has much better intangibles than Geno but as a player he reminds me of that guy. I would see him drafted around the same place as Geno was in terms of value. Maybe the pro talent evaluators know better and think differently, but that is my impression. I guess we will see. Really like Mike Williams tho. That one is easy.

Seeing EJ under centre again yesterday after a lengthy absence brought back real life images of receivers shaking their heads in disbelief after every passing attempt. I had actually forgotten (or maybe repressed that). Maybe I was actually asleep dreaming a horrible nightmare but I thought I saw speech baloons over Watkins, Woods and Clay saying "WTF - where is that ball going?!?!!!"