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Top 10 list,... not sure I agree with all these, however it does demonstrate how difficult it is to find too many great rivalries. In order to be a real rivalry, i think they have to be in the same conference in order to meet several times in the course of a career. I also think that they both need to be HOFers and finally there need to be multiple playoff meetings with everything on the line... With that, vote on the subset, call out any that I missed. I included Bradshaw / Staubach even though they played in opposite conferences as they met in multiple SBs I'll play the homer and vote for Kelly / Marino as they were division rivals so have the largest body of work. Those games were always electric 2 and sometimes 3x per year!

2012,...Must've been against the Bills D.... can't play them for 16 straight weeks

I do like that idea,... but there is some fun and strategy in going for 1pt or 2, so it adds an element to the game particularly in the 4th quarter when strategy around the decision has such an impact on the outcome

I agree. I can't think of another sport that has such a non-competitive play. And the kick-off is becoming a close second. -- Narrow the goal posts -- Move the kick-off back 5 yards to where it was -- and actually Bellichek had a good idea about extra points to make them more interesting. Take your pick; 2pt conversion from the 2yd line or kick extra point from the 20 yd line Its not sport if a play is designed to be non-competitive...

I'm generally about having patience, but I agree! Canning Crossman would have been a big statement to everyone about accountability! Our Special Teams have slid from among the most feared in the league to pretty much a joke...

I want us to keep him, but the the year-end press conference made it seem less likely to me. Whaley said they would "make him a offer".... that sounds an awful lot like, we'll make him an offer, but we're not going to make him the highest paid safety in the league. I think Byrd rejects whatever offer is coming. I do hope we tag him and then we'll HAVE to trade him. I don't think it would go well if he was forced to play under the franchise tag again. If my assumptions are correct, then I wouldn't mind the OPs suggestion... Byrd plus our 3rd for a 1st. That seems like a good salvaging of the situation.... I'd certainly prefer that we were able to sign him though!

Funny,... I always thought of Snyder as a bad owner, but when I look at your post, I guess you're right. These are the things we're often pleading with the Bills FO to do He also learned from earlier mistakes of getting too involved w/ the operations and has backed off during Shanahan's tenure leaving the "football guy" to run things. So what's the problem. Is Snyder all that different from say,... Terry Pegula??

I agree with this order. While Kiko started the year on fire, he hit the rookie wall and tailed off as the year progressed. We talked about it on this board. At Week #10 the DROY would have been Kiko. However, Richardson continued to play very well and was even involved in the offense (Refrigerator-style), scoring a TD in Week 16 in their victory over the Dolphins. We got ourselves an awesome player, but the DROY not should go to Sheldon Richardson....

I'd have to give Most Improved to Leodis McKelvin.... loving what Aaron Williams did as well though. McKelvin was a high 1st round pick that never started in his own right at CB. We had all given up on him. He was realistically primarily brought back because of PR skills. Maybe he could be a 3rd corner?!? And then he turns into arguably a Pro Bowl Shutdown NFL Cornerback!! I think that if there are Pro Bowl injury replacements at the position he stands a great chance of being added to the squad. WELL DONE!!

I agree,... there was some questions on the year-end press conference that about how quick the hook has become on coaches in the NFL. Marrone responded that he spoke to Chudzinski (Brown's coach) last night who was fired after 1 year. I think when doing a complete look at the performance on the field, we'll be looking for a new ST coach. Just a few years ago the Bills had one of the most feared units in the NFL. There were times the last year under Gailey where teams were afraid to punt to McKelvin and I'm not sure he had a return over 20 yards this year. In the Cleveland game we were afraid to kick to their returners and I don't even want to talk about the Pats games this past week. Crossman HAS TO GO!

Definitely agree,... I usually don't jump to wild conclusions and feel we should have a lot more patience w/ Marrone, EJ,... However if there's to be real accountability on this team, then Crossman should be fired!

In all honesty, Cowher should stay right where he is... I think he would be as successful as Mike Shanahan if he came back. I'm fine with keeping Marrone,... there's no reason that he shouldn't be able to keep building. This team IS better than last year and will be better next year. We'll see lots of growth from first year players, coaches and schemes... Wow, now that's a b**ch slap...

I agree... DPBEAR, you're helping to make Noodle's point, not rebutting it

Definitely agree that this should have been a vote poll,... roughly looks like its running about 2/3 in favor. I think I'm in the No category, though I love Freddy as much as anyone. I hope he remains on the team and retires on his own terms as a Bill. With that said I also agree with a number of other posters. As the "heart and soul" of the team, his leadership hasn't effectively spread to the rest of the team nearly enough. -- He's never been to the Pro Bowl -- He's only had a single 1K season and that was only 1,062 -- He was only our leading rushing weapon for 3 seasons (Lynch was primary before and Spiller since) I looked back at our biggest games of the last 4 seasons (all losses),... when the whole season was on the line. Before 2009 Marshawn Lynch was the starter at RB -- 2012, week 14, we were 5-8, with three games to go against a weak St. Louis team... 9 rushes for 14 yd... 5 rec for 16 yds -- 2011, week 11, after 5-2 start we had lost 2 in a row to drop to 5-4 and going into Miami... we get blown out 35-8... 7 rushes for 17 yd... 5 rec for 50 yds -- 2010, week 8, season was shot early w/ 0-8 start, OT loss to Raves in wk 7, OT loss game at KC follows.... 20 rushes for 64 yd... 3 rec for 11 yds -- 2009, week 13, 4-8 coming off a strong victory over Dolphins, Jets at home, can't afford to lose any more... 13 rushes for 31 yd... 3 rec for 13 yds Perhaps I cherry-picked some games, but this is the closest I could come up with as Statement games given the Bills poor record over the last several years. I looked at the seasons progress and selected the game before looking at his stats in any of them. Freddy didn't distinguish himself in any of these games It has to be a No, though I would love to see him continue to work in the Bills organization long after he retires... Great topic for discussion!

Jerry Hughes has delivered the vision! This is the article that should have been Maybin...

Says it all about the FANS.... GO BILLS!

Thats for certain! I can't stand people advocating to lose for a higher draft position. My confidence in this board has been re-affirmed!!

Hmmm,.... that might be a mutually exclusive set of stats?? Unless we're fumbling on the 1yd or Manuel getting intercepted in the Pats endzone repeatedly. Not sure if that's worth it

Recognizing everyone's desire for a highest draft pick we can get, I'd much rather the Bills win-out. I can't imagine anyone being excited about losing out just for a higher pick. The off season would be dominated by doubts about Marrone, QB, Front Office and 20 other things. There would be endless advocating to draft another QB with a high 1st round pick. Too depressing to stay on this board. If they win out, the team will be on an upswing. Manuel will have beaten NE in December on the road, with the Pats having a lot to play for. It'll be easier to believe that we're ready to take the next step with just a few more additions.... To me, the choice is easy

You're right,... I think it was EJ Manuel that missed to block that got Moorman nailed?

Wow! I usually hate these kinds of "doom" threads, but you pretty much hit the nail on the head.... unfortunately, well said!

I've been a fan since the '70s.... Is there ever a time that Buffalo professional sports have been worse? I don't think I can recall a time when both the Bills and Sabres have been as depressing as right now. Just 2 years ago we felt that Gailey had the team on the upswing and with Pegula buying the Sabres and loosening the purse would bring the Sabres up to elite status... CRASH!

Just looking at the latest Power Ranking.... bad losses to #20 Steelers, #23 Jets, #24 Browns, #31 Falcons,..... UGH. With #28 Bucs and #30 Jags coming next, I'd almost rather we were playing the 49ers or Seahawks,

Not just the INTs, but Geno's fumbles... the one when he tried to put it behind his back as he was being sacked was unbelievable. I think EJ's been much better protecting the ball, which would be difference if the QBs were swapped.

Uh yeah,... that. He didn't have to go much further than the final score to see your point.