Mr. WEO

Why? Darnold is better than Wilson.

Yeah. Stop worshiping athletes and simply enjoy the TV show. That's also a lesson parents can impart to their kids. If this stuff is true, tell your kid you're throwing out the jersey representing a really bad man. Pretty simple bit of parenting right there... The NFL in particular is littered with abusers throughout its history---why pick 3 and then pretend the numbers are so low as to be "shocking" that it may have happened again? They aren't.

My point is who knows if he can play at this point. He's been sitting around since Jan 2020.

Wow. So much being put on Star, a situational player who chose not to play last year, coming in and having what would have to be a career year to live up to expectations.

Don't ask Sammy to kick the tires...

His agent would tell you what you already know doc, you don't leave money on the table. So we can safely assume there was none--or at least that's what each of these guys concluded (as did their agents.......after 6 weeks in Milano's case). Yeah, we all read about the "I was living on a couch (as I banked $4.4 million)" tear jerker. Come on! LOL. Are you really coming in with that? To remind you: it's a "one-bedroom, one-bathroom apartment in a renovated, red-brick building with exposed ductwork in downtown Buffalo". That's a primo Buffalo loft (or what passes for such). I said Milano was maybe looking at a 1 year contract after an injury plagued year, like Williams (who you brought up, without irony). It would take Williams another 1 year contract with another team before he made his money (and even then it's a short time deal). Beane is smart, not because he sold these guys on "the process". He reasonably wanted these pieces of the team to stay and painted them a clear picture of what was very likely out there (or not) for them. These guys were not in solid positions to really bargain hard (Milano is the only one remotely close) and he knew that. Soon, he knew that too. He gave them all pretty generous offers for their value--not one of them as a discount.

If he is guilty then that's not much of a punishment at all. He's got 41 million in the bank. That's about 41 million more than nearly everyone else similarly accused--and those guys don't have many fans weeping for them. I tune in to watch the games on Sundays. I have a lot of fun here at TBD debating/talking about all this stuff year round, but it really doesn't bother me much as to what happens to these guys if and when they leave the game and are left with millions as they try to negotiate the world where the rest of us have to get by without the adulation that comes with playing a kid's game.

Nothing at all. But the OP is saying a bunch of signing's took pay cuts to stay. I'm sure Beane had the discussions similar to what I talked about for obvious business reasons. They make sense. Milano and Feliciano, we have discussed. Butler and Addison were very tasty cap saving cuts. These fringe players weren't hard to convince with multi-year deals. Milano was under his rookie contract last year doc, not a FA. Not sure what your point is there pointing that out.

they will each have their own thread soon enough....

Everything unknown is speculation doc. We are talking about likelihoods. It makes no sense to conclude that a guy like Milano would leave millions per year on the table because of his love for Buffalo. Williams, after an injury plagued 2018, signed a 1 year deal with the Panthers for 6 million. A year later he signed another 1 year deal with the Bills for 2.25 million. Now he has signed for 24 million (twice his career earnings to date) over (only) 3 years with 14 mil guaranteed. I wouldn't exactly call that a "pay cut" either. Who "locks up" an o-lineman with 27 of 32 starts and 97% of snaps last season to only a 3 year deal....with an easy out after 2? Williams couldn't jump on that deal fast enough I bet.

I hadn't read anywhere that Isaiah Humphries (son Of PSU player Leonard) was a disgruntled person.

Remember Yetur "We're Going to Sandusky You" Gross-Matos? Anyway, despite his name being on the hockey building, there is no way anyone at Penn State that Pegula would be able to pick up the phone to call is going to deep 6 this kid's prospects in the NFL. That's not how it's done.

Come on doc, this isn't hard. The guy has had a spotty career significantly limited by injury. Lots of players were getting one year contracts this off season--Milano had the written all over him. Beane offered him 4 years 41.5 mil with over 23 guaranteed. But you think that, after letting it out there he wanted top dollar, he woke up 6 weeks later (and less than 2 weeks before those offers came a rollin' in) and took a below market deal.....because he loves the Bills so much? It's simple, if he thought there would be a better deal he would have waited a few more days and put the Bills in a bidding war. It would make no sense not too.

Why is anyone shocked and/or devastated to learn that a famous man abuses women? Is it because, although none off us known anything at all about the him, we assumed he was a nice guy? Are we "shocked" that women often feel it isn't worth it to be the first to charge a famous ("beloved") athlete? None of this is even a little bit shocking.

Football and sexual harassment/abuse? That's called a "double major" at Penn State....

Yeah, some real magic right there! Probably by Beane. But anyway, if Milano, not a superstar, really thought he was going to get even a few million more per year, he absolutely would have waited until the "legal tampering" (agents NEVER let it be known to teams what their FA clients are looking for before it's "legal"---lol, doc) period to hear offers. The Bills gave him what he is worth, obviously. So it's impossible to claim he "took a pay cut".

That was my point. He knew he wasn't going to get "top dollar", so he took what he was offered. That's not a discount.

How do you know he didn't say this? Did you contradict that report anywhere in that thread? He signed almost 6 weeks after that report. Why wouldn't he seek top dollar? Denying such a simple and natural scenario doesn't make much sense. Someone or something convinced him he would not be getting top dollar.

Huh? And Feliciano didn't need to test the market.

Milano and Feliciano were free agents (Milano said he would be looking for top dollar, Felicano knew he was going to get a pay cut to stay). Neither got better offers, it seems. Morse had to have known they would be coming to him for a haircut. Same with Addison-who was a marginal Bill last season and would have been a big savings if they cut him (6 mil). Same for Butler, a 6.8 million savings. Easy to take a little pay cut than to get cut.

He's the only immediate impact player on that list.

Easy....Pitts.

Stafford is a bum. Rams are going to realize they should have kept Goff.

Maybe they'll part with Buddy Howell