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Yeah, meant to say Mitchell

He’s not. But Ty Johnson wasn’t either and he was as retained. I’m getting the data from overthecap. Which is tabulating those that have signed onto other teams not those in limbo.

I think so but this thread is for official losses and pickups. I didn’t want to go speculating for all the teams who would be retained or lost

Not yet, he hasn’t signed with anyone but he highly likely will be gone

I did a little exercise to see how the Bills are doing relative to some other notable teams on their acquisitions and losses. This list won't include the extensions of their own players, this is a simple look at the pickups and losses. It is early still but it is a glance at where we stand vs some of these other teams. Note: I am getting this data from overthecap so it may not be 100% updated. Also I am not including players who haven't been picked up in FA as of yet. Chiefs Pickups LT Jaylon Moore (expected to be starting LT) RB Elijah Moore (expected to be a backup RB) Losses RB Samaje Perine (valuable 3rd down back) LG Joe Thuney (Stud LG who played LT as well) On balance so far a net negative Ravens Pickups WR Deandre Hopkins (losing gas in the tank) Losses LB Chris Hoard (Jag) CB Brandon Stephens (starting CB but was picked on a lot this past year) LG Patrick Mekari (Starting LG) On balance a net negative Texans Pickups WR Christian Kirk (good replacement for Diggs) IDL Sheldon Rankins (quality depth in rotation) S Chauncy Gardner-Johnson Jr. (Quality safety) CB Tremon Smith (not even a JAG) WR Braxton Berrios (meh to serviceable slot) LG Laken Tomlinson (ok starting guard) LB Nick Niemann (Special teamer) Losses LT Laremy Tunsil (very big loss, specially for a team that needs better pass protection) LG Kenyon Green (starting LG at times but struggled with upside) Safety Eric Murray (starting safety - ok) On balance - tough to say with big loss with Tunsil, but other quality pickups (I'd say slight net negative) Eagles Pickups LG Kenyon Green (not a great pickup) QB Dorian Thompson (downgrade from Kenny Picket) Losses DE Josh Sweat (pretty big loss) Safety Chauncy Gardener Johnson Jr (Decent loss at safety) QB Kenny Pickett (serviceable backup) IDL Milton WIlliams (pretty big loss) LB Oren Burks (eh) CB Isiah Rodgers (Decent player) On balance so far a big downgrade San Francisco Pickups CB Tre Tomlinson (jag) Losses WR Deebo Samuel (down year but potentially could be very good) CB Chavarious Ward (good starting CB) QB Joshua Dobbs (quality depth) LG Aaron Banks (quality starting LG) LT Jaylon Moore (Decent to OK LT) S Talanoa Hufanga (Decent starting S) RB Elijah Moore (decent depth RB) On balance YIKES And the Bills Pickups DE Joey Bosa (upgrade from Von Miller) DE Michael Hoecht (quality rotation) WR Josh Palmer (quality WR who will most likely replace Amari Cooper) Losses P Sam Martin (serviceable) WR Mack Hollins (played well for us last year) On balance a net slight positive. The Bills seem to be stacking up pretty well against other top teams so far.

Rousseau hits a pop sacrifice fly and picks up a Ribby?

So far so good. I suspect they will get a CB and a DT and possibly a safety and then they will be pretty much done with FA.

Michael Hoecht is buying in lol

I'd be interested to see the structure of this deal. I'm guessing they probably added a void year or two.

If he stays healthy he’s is a $30M AAV type of player. He’s $12M because he usually isn’t healthy. Definitely worth a swing and this move will not preclude the Bills from drafting an edge rusher if one presents itself

Just a one year deal, worth taking a swing because if he’s healthy he’s really good

So smooth

Yes, it’s $7m a year. It would count around $4.4m from the cap in 2025 and $7.5m towards cap in 2026 of which $6m is in base that could be converted to a bonus and spread in remaining year and 2 voided years lowering the 2026 cap hit to $3M. Interesting that they decided to use 2 voided years rather than the 1 that they have been using on a relatively small contract. Probably because it’s not an extension and there are only 3 years on it. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/48007/mike-hoecht

I saw the same thing, they all seemed to like him but a lot said he’s not good in coverage. Not too many 280 pounders are lol

I hear the Bills are making a push for Asante Samuels Jr.

Wow! I would advise for anyone to take a look at that video. It’s not that long. What struck me is how big, fast and strong he looked on those highlights. And how versatile he is, the Rams used him coming off the edge and in the middle as a stand up LB. I get the feeling the Bills are going to employ more things this year that we hadn’t seen in the past. I think they are going to make a serious attempt at being less predictable on defense.

Bills did play more 3 - 3 - 5 defenses last year down the stretch.

Day 1, they got the WR I wanted. I posted about him quite a few times going back 2-3 weeks. If they don’t swing for the fences with Hendrickson then with what’s left I’m leaning Za’Darius Smith. He’s still producing well and probably can be had without breaking the bank.

The Cover 1 guys like him. I do respect their opinions. He does have a lot of tackles, gets some sacks and is very athletic for his size. He’s not someone I watched just that is what I’ve seen/read about him.

Because the formation that the Bills like to play a lot the 4 by 1 where they have 4 receivers bunched on one side and the 1 isolated on the other side is not a role that Coleman is suited for. That is suited for someone who can win 1 v 1 and that can separate. Palmer will play that role. Coleman will play the role that Mack Hollins played a lot this year which was more of a power slot who can line up on the boundary.

I think Bills will go BPA at either WR, DE, DT, CB or Safety. Unless there is a big time substantive move via trade/FA at one of these positions. The FA signing for Palmer I don't believe precludes that from happening.

They are going to go defense now, we have 4 major holes to improve. CB, Safety, DT and DE. But I expect the Bills to draft a WR.

Very likely will be