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If they don’t I will be pretty damn disappointed

There is more of an urgency to win it all than ever before. Allen in the next few years will be declining from a physical standpoint, (I don’t believe overall but physically). I am convinced that after seeing how the Eagles are paying all their players and some with over $350M in their voided year contracts which is $200M more than the next highest team that Pegula will more all in than he has in the past. We will know in the not so distant future if what I believe will play out.

By signing Rousseau the Bills are more likely to field a better defense than if they hadn’t. Aside from extending Benford, I think the Bills will add two more players either via FA and/or trade that will be impact players with AAV values of $15m + AAV players on the defensive side of the ball.

Yes

The way the Bills have recently structuring their deals with 1 voided year, I think you can assume they are about $2-4 M under the cap

They can easily do it, just depends if there is the will to do it from Pegula.

Dang! Thats one of he guys I was hoping to target. Palmer is my top WR FA hopeful. Then draft a WR with on of the premium picks

Did you see his explanation of that play you had referenced? From the article; ———- On defense, Greg Rousseau knew that the Chiefs might use a diamond formation — Mahomes lined up between two tight ends with a running back behind him — but admits the Chiefs ran plays out of this funky alignment that the Bills had never seen before. Reid saved plays for this matchup. On the go-ahead TD in the fourth quarter, the Chiefs pulled a tackle left and a ran a quarterback keeper right. Buffalo’s best defensive player, Matt Milano, was caught flat-footed. Dawuane Smoot bit inside to JV extremes. Everyone appeared fooled. Mahomes plowed into the end zone. “I didn’t see that in any of the breakdowns I watched,” said the defensive end Rousseau. “So they made some plays. They ended up coming out on top. They had a good gameplan.” Mahomes has always been a threat to run. What surprised the Bills, per Rousseau, is when he ran for his 43 yards. They weren’t expecting him to boot in certain short-yardage situations. “I know personally in my job, not just me, but the whole defense we’re thinking, ‘Alright, it was four-minute (offense), we got to get a stop on the run,’” Rousseau said. “Then he boots out. It’s like, ‘Damn.’ It happens. It’s part of the game and it's tough to stop when you have a quarterback who’s a dual threat.” ——- https://www.golongtd.com/p/missing-rings-buffalo-bills-flush Not to completely absolve him but that game was mainly a failure on the scheme and DB’s But even if you don’t want to give that any credence, it was just a debacle defensively all the way around and he did pef well in the other 2 playoff games.

This is a nice highlight film of many of the sacks, tackles for loss and QB hits he had. Also for those that are using sack totals as their only basis of his value, you are showing yourselves to not understand the true value of a Defensive end. Sorry, not sorry. He was 2nd in the league in QB hits He was 10th in the league in QB hurries He was 10th in the league in stops. A stop is a play that usually is a stop around the line of scrimmage. He is 9th in the league in tackles for losses He is 3rd in the league in causing fumbles. Even sacks he’s 19th in the league. Yeah, those stats in today’s market is over $20m AAV. The Bills got a team friendly deal. Also for those that are saying that this will limit our odds in getting more quality talent. I’m just going to assume you don’t understand how to manipulate the cap. The Bills recent M.O has been to add 1 voided year. Considering that the Bills already have Rousseau for $13m for 2025, with the extension it is a 5 year $93M deal which is at $18.6M AAV The way the deal will be structured you will see: 2025 less than 2% will be of the teams cap 2026 less than 3.5% will be of the team cap 2027 around 4% will be of the team cap. Even 2028 can be manipulated and pushed to 2029 and the 2030 voided year. The Eagles have 7 players with over $20M AAV extensions and another 2 more over $17M AAV The Bills have 3 at $20m + You can keep repeating it over and over but it won’t change the fact that you are wrong that this deal limits our ability to get more top end talent

He had a sack against Denver this year in the playoffs and he had a sack against the Ravens this year in the playoffs. 2 sacks in 3 playoff games. Sign me up

Groot had a better year than Sweat. Check the metrics, Groot outperformed him in just about every single metric.

The Josh Sweat anticipated deal will be interesting to see. Even though his advanced metrics aren’t as good as Rousseau’s, he’s the closest comp that is expected to sign this year. His deal won’t be an extension so the deal will begin immediately whereas Rousseau’s extension doesn’t begin until 2026. That dilutes the value a little bit relative to Rousseau’s. The better way to compare what Josh Sweat will end up getting vs what Rousseau receives will be including the 2025 $13m existing contract for Rousseau which makes it a 5 year $93m $18.6m AAV Im guessing Sweat will get somewhere around that amount

This is what I’ve been saying over and over.

Based off last years production this contract which in all intents and purposes is up to $18.6m AAV over the next 5 years matches up. I posted the advanced stats multiple times, you can find them in this thread. Through objective lens it’s a good deal. The beauty is that he is ascending, that’s not in dispute. I would assume he hasn’t hit his ceiling yet unless last year was the peak and I don’t see any evidence to suggest that.

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It won‘t He will end up being less than 3.5% of the entire cap in 2026 and around 4% in 2027, assuming the Bills use the 1 voided year which seems to be their recent M.O

Keep in mind, that’s 8th in the league of existing contracts in place. Many of those deals were from 1-3 seasons ago. If all players were up for a contact extension, at this contract he signed there most likely would have been 15 Edge defenders who would have gotten higher payouts.

Yes and I creates a thread that I had to delete because of it Thanks Muki! lol

I hear ya, but I think they will. The way he played last year was at near elite level. Ripping off long TD’s, phenomenal around the end zone, showed that he could run in between the tackles, good receiver. Bottom line he is a play maker and arguably the best offensive skill position player on the team. I don’t think he will walk unless his demands are unreasonable and last I saw his asking price was $15m AAV which isn’t too far off his correct value

Incorrect He had a sack in the Denver game and another one in the Ravens game. No one showed up on defense Va the Chiefs specially the DB’s and coaching schemes

For those that only base his value off of his sack production 15th in the league in solo tackles at DE - 10th in the league in Tackles for loss as a DE - 3rd in the league in forced fumbles at DE - 10th in the league in Stops at DE -19th in the league in sacks at DE - 18th in the league in Hurries at DE - 2nd in the league in QB hits at DE - 10th in the league in Total QB pressures - 11th in the league in Batted Passes -12th in the league in PFF ratings And he did this by being - 25th in the league in Total snaps - 32nd in Run defense snaps -17th in pass rush snaps And he also had 2 sacks in the playoffs this past year. $20M AAV and if you include his $13m for 2025 that means over the next 5 years his AAV will be $18.6M He will cost around 2% of the cap in 2025 Leas than 3% in 2026 And less than 4% in 2027 Not to mention close to $10M in cap savings for 2025 providing lots of flexibility to go after more FA and trade targets!

Benford Allen Cook They will all get done!

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Yes, very likely around $10m cap space for 2025 will be freed up

He is going to be less than 2% of the cap in 2025, less than 3.5% in 2026 and around 4% in 2027 Book it!