vincec

I was thinking the same thing. How many championships do you have to win in a QB driven league before you are "good". Tough crowd.

I read the entire Wells report. Don't ask me why but I did. It doesn't read the way you are indicating. Martin was visibly upset by much of the treatment. In some cases it may have been less clear but overall it was obvious to many of his other teammates that he was upset by it. It should have been clear to Incognito as well, and probably was.

But he was the victim in this incident and it's being spun as a third case of him running a foul of the law. I think it's pretty low to bring it up.

Enemkpali looks like the victim based on this report. The police even gave him the opportunity to press charges but he declined. It's pretty low of Schefter to pull this out and the headline is very misleading. Apparently Schefter is a very shady character.

The fact that Jonathan Martin was hurting while Incognito was leading his bullying is even more reason that Incognito is trash. That's how bullies work. They pick on the people that are easy targets and don't stand up for themselves. If Incognito were a good guy and good teammate he would try to pick him up and give him strength, not run him down for amusement. I think you need to go back and review the report on his actions and comments and then explain to me how they were "taken out of context" or how they could possibly be justified. I strongly suspect that the reason there is such a large number of posters defending this behavior is that he is now a Bill. I see people attack guys like Fitz and Spiller and Levitre, hoping that they flop now that they've left, while defending Incognito. It's an agenda.

The usual revisionist BS. If Incognito had signed with the Patriots he'd be getting lambasted on TSW. Now that he's a Bill he's a poor misunderstood soul that's being persecuted by the man. Kind of like Tom Brady in Patriot fan's eyes. Of course once he leaves via free agency he'll be scum again.

Thanks for bringing EJ into this. Is EVERYTHING a referendum on EJ?

I thought only Lee Evans was a "decoy" when playing good cornerbacks.

Yes he does, but the entire offense does so it's not all on him.

I think if you review this thread you will see that this is patently not the case. He is on every other "overrated" list posted. I do think he's the best center the Bills have by a wide margin.

Overrated: Harvin Underrated: Graham

This is the key problem, IMO.

Actually they had Kupper at RG and Johnson at RT. It was a bad joke.

#61 Kupper and #63 Johnson were absolutely abominable. One or both was cleanly beaten on virtually every single play they were out there. And this was vs Cleveland's second team. Not good.

$90 million dollars would piss me off too. How dare they?

Players aren't doing enough squats.

My concern with Taylor is whether he can stay healthy. He runs a lot and needs to in order to be effective, but he's not as big as guys like Newton or Kaepernick so the chance of injuries are a concern to me.

Exactly.

Let me be the first to say: "Super Bowl!"

Sure, why not.

I think Rex wants TT as the starter with Cassel as the fall back, so I suspect that's the way they'll go into week one. Personally, I'd like to see EJ as the starter with TT getting about 1/4 of the snaps but the coaches just don't seem to think that EJ can do it. They also seem to think that TT can survive the season as a full time starter with all the running he does. He's not as bigs Kaep so we'll see. I still think we'll see all three QBs before the season is over.

Practice squad? Are you joking? You don't think someone will pick up a young former 1st round QB if the Bills waive him?

I strongly doubt it. Manuel got his start in the scrimmage. Whomever starts game 3 will be the guy the coaching staff is trying to get ready for the regular season. Preseason game #4 is for the bubble players to sort themselves out. In fact, if Manuel is still taking reps with the 3rd team this week you could make the case that the competition is already down to Cassel vs Taylor.

I hope Leodis is back for week 1, but if not then Darby will get the help he needs to be successful. This defense has too much talent and is too well coached to struggle because of one rookie.

Gilmore is not a "lockdown corner" who will take away the opponent's best WR but he is a good, solid starting CB so I don't see any reason to bash him. He is certainly not going to be a problem this season.