vincec

"Innocent"... please. Which one of them called himself "The Deflator" again?

I thought the NFL was 90% zone blocking these days. No?

Exactly. It really is a complete waste of time but they've gotta say something. It's what they get paid for.

Because Brady is much more valuable to the league and league revenue that Hargrove. Also, they need to walk a fine line between appearing to be tough on cheaters but not making the deflating appear to be such a serious violation that it decided the outcome of games. They aren't vacating the win over Indy or the Super Bowl after all. I expect 4 games.

I'm not sure where the rest of TBD fall on this issue, but personally, I'd rather the Bills never with a championship that cheat to get one. Why is winning a Super Bowl so important to fans that they'd cheat to do it? The Bills don't hand out any money or rings or anything to the fans. It makes no practical difference in their lives.

I think my response was above your head. I think that your "nuanced" response is guilty of the same logical fallacy that you are accusing other people of. Perhaps you're too blind to see that.

I understand that both of you are intimately familiar with the details of the current ongoing police investigation, but for the benefit of the rest of us without this insider knowledge, how about we wait until the results are in before we declare which group of fans have latched onto a narrative and refuse to let go.

That's not really much of a rebuttal. Here's the full quote: "Ability without character will lose. The Bills are going to be a team of high character. That stamp I will push very hard. I hope we can convey that to our fans and project something very special to the rest of the nation." Also, here's a link to a program and educational brief from a Marv Levy lecture. Heart of a Hall of Famer Series: Marv Levy - Extreme Networks Notice the items listed under the learning objectives section. These are what I think Marv meant by character. It sounds to me like he wanted to build a team of players that the community and the nation can be proud of. I'm not sure how proud you can be of wife beaters, bullies and murderers. If you think you know something different the say what you think it means and back it up with some research. Otherwise, your argument is basically worthless.

If you eliminate all the items on this list then there would be no more public discourse on this board or in the world for that matter. People use these strategies in debating all the time, even though they are false.

This smells like complete and utter BS to me.

I guess we're going to find out if Marv Levy was right when he said that talent without character will not win.

Bills should try to get OJ out of jail and use him to help recruit.

I read this before but it doesn't make any sense to me. If a player enters the draft and is drafted then he can refuse and go back into the draft the following year, but if he isn't drafted then he can't? I don't get it.

I agree that it's an issue, but putting Williams at OT doesn't make him a good one. They'll bring in some free agents to compete for the #4 OT spot. I only hope that Kouandjio steps up to be a solid swing tackle or they will really be on thin ice.

Not really. The posts are probably 4 to 1 in favor of the bashers. Take a look at it next time.

Before his injury he was being touted as someone who was about to breakout and become a big contributor. Since the injury he hasn't done squat. This makes me wonder how much these injuries have taken out of his game.

What's the word on how well he recovered from his knee injury? I thought is was pretty bad.

Threads like this one continue to prove that Jerry Sullivan is one of the best sports editorial columnists in Buffalo. He writes an article and everyone talks about it and/or the issue he brings up. That's exactly his job. Tough to make a case for firing someone like that.

Probably just send Fred a text that he's gone. Then have his stuff waiting for him in the lobby in a couple of drawstring bags. I think that would be the best way to handle things.

The swing/backup positions are going to have shake out, but I think plan A is Urbik as C/G backup and Kouandjio as swing tackle. If Williams loses out as a starting OG then I think he'll be cut.

It looks to me that the starters at each position are basically set. Obvious and critical exception is QB.

Until camp anyway.

Practice squad player.

He was right that the Bills were going to take a CB with their second round pick. I didn't see that from anyone on TBD.