WhitewalkerInPhilly

To criticize him? No. To talk about how he is secretly conniving and using his wealth to hire fake protestors to disagree with Republican politicians, or spread a widely debunked rumor that he was a Nazi collaborator, that he planed and organized "the caravan" to help perpetuate "White Genocide"...all without a shred of proof...maybe a bit.

I am practically busting a gut laughing at all the people talking about the "fake new media" about how they are the enemy of the people, and that the judge seems to think that he's been blackmailed. You want to know what the judge thought? https://www.npr.org/2018/12/18/677558000/federal-judge-delays-michael-flynn-sentencing-in-case-of-lying-to-feds

I've noticed actually a few false dichotomies from both advocated and critics of police. For advocates, the divide is that either you let the police do their job, or you let rampant lawlessness go free. If you listen to the most recent season of Serial, the head of Cleveland Police Officers union is asked, regarding the fatal shooting of a 12 year old with a BB gun (Tamir Rice) that zero mistakes were made and the only way to avoid fatal shooting of unarmed civilians is "we don't show up". Zero amount of oversight is needed. Nothing needs to change, other than the public needs to hand over more money. For critics, I've heard "There's no such thing as a good cop", in that there is no such thing as a good cop, because good cops allow for the existence of bad cops. Never mind the fact that they have zero ways to personally fix that. I don't mean to go all Centrist here, but come on, there has to be a middle ground where we recognize that police ought to be better compensated for the risks they take, but that also with the increased authority and visibility, that they have to be held than a higher standard. When we see cases where you see police planting evidence when they think their body cams are off, or you see incidents where suspects are beaten to a bloody pulp, or a legal gun owner is shot and killed after informing the officer that he has his weapon in the car and the excuse is "I smelled the distinct odor or marijuana" or "I saw a bulge" and there are zero consequences, I don't understand how people don't see a need for higher standards and training. Maybe, but we have heard from a lot of vets from Iraq and Afghanistan that the rules of engagement were figuratively beat into them. Proper threat escalation and determination was a vital part of their everyday life. Unless you are saying that the US is more dangerous than Iraq or Afghanistan, I have to imagine that we could take that training and apply it here.

Donald Trump 2013: "When they talk about the government shutdown, they're going to be talking about the president of the United States, who the president was at that time. They're not going to be talking about who was the head of the House, the head the Senate, who's running things in Washington. Donald Trump Early 2018: " Democrats are holding our Military hostage over their desire to have unchecked illegal immigration. Can't let that happen!' 'They could have easily made a deal but decided to play Shutdown politics instead" Donald Trump December 11 2018: "I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck," the president said. "So I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I'm not gonna blame you for it. The last time you shut it down it didn't work. I will take the mantle of shutting down. Donald Trump December 13th 2018: Democrats are only doing this to play politics! Let's not do a shutdown Democrats! How anyone here is able to ignore how much this man talks out of his ass is beyond me.

I hear that weed really helps salve people who are delusional. Would you please speak to that? In short...you have cartoons, because the facts show how deluded you are

Ok. Name the press. If this is "hot off the lib NPC press", tell me what it's from. Because actual, conservative government analysis couldn't come from me unless I know better than you. Which, let's be honest here, is not that hard Dude, there's a reason why I'm an independent. Just because Trump is unspeakably moronic doesn't make the Dems magically brilliant. They are simply the most ready way to avoid disaster. They deserve to be called out for hypocrisy and bad ideas. I dont see how continued examination, debate and rejection of ideas is a bad thing.

I'm out of state...and well, my partner does not agree to being non-monogamous. I do appreciate the offer through, but if I want to branch out, I do have some close friends who have already offered. I do appreciate reaching out though!

*nods* alright. I'm happy that you can be free now. I do legit owe you one for calling that Allen was a better option than Tyrod. ...wait, what I am doing, talking football on a football site ?

It's fortunate then, that I have realized that I no longer need to take you seriously. You are too far gone.

In the most obvious riposte: If the US government is already succeeding using $1.6 billion is border security funding, why do you need $5 billion? Is that worth stopping all security over? To which I go to the itemized reasons this makes no sense: A) Can you actually give me data as to how physical security has stopped crossings? This is a legitimate question, not a trap. I am rather curious if you have any facts that can be verified. B) Bulls**t, the Dems can't explain why they don't want a border wall. Holy hell, this is the easier argument for a libertarian to make. It is: A massive government works project Will require the seizure of land from private citizens via eminent domain violates state's rights, as the federal government will be overriding the enumerated powers that they are supposed to have regarding enforcement even if it is built, it will require continual manpower assignment and maintenance you can do far better national security policing by taking equivalent funds and giving them to intelligence agencies and law enforcement a static emplacement like a wall is useless against catapults shooting drugs over the border, vast networks of cartel tunnels, air drops, naval crossings, smuggling through our ports and is just an god awful waste of money for an extremely limited and stationary structure. I have long held that the Wall is all the stupidest parts of Democratic mismanagement, only now it's the Republican base's turn to be idiots.

It's so cute when you metaphorically suck each other off, and project your true feelings into this safe space. Good for you both! Throw off the shackles off the moralizing of your upbringing and embrace your true desires! Be liberated!

Well, I have to admit that Schumer is laying it on thick, and I have little love for these two. But let's give credit where credit is due. Mr. 45 has owned any impending shutdown. https://thepoliticalinsider.com/trump-shutdown/ All I'm going to say is this: while the Republicans control both houses of Congress, and the executive branch until January 3rd...when it will control two of those three. If they can't do anything until then, then yeah, the president needs to own up to his comments about how shutdowns are the president's fault.

Yeah...every so often I have to remind myself when I find myself overwhelmed, incredulous at how low people in this board stoop... And then I remember that I have boyst as a unit of measure.

Look Sherpa, Boyst is already on the record that he thinks that's it's ok to run people over in the streets. You think that this is hyperbole. It is not. Well, that explains what happens when Ohio goes red ? I'm joking. People don't take that joke as a reason to disenfranchise all the poor people in Ohio.

I'm not. If he had tried that in NY, I would have expected terrorism charges. The scum sucker deliberately targeted and murdered unarmed, peaceful protestors, as part of a radical hate group. If he had been part of ISIS, we would not have heard the end of it. I can acutely remember people like Boyst defending him (and he still, if memory serves, is in favor of vehicular homicide) and telling us to wait for judgement. NOW can we call the white nationalist movement a bunch of sniveling, cowardly murderers?

Dude, I usually respect you, so I will actually try to respond seriously and without snark. In Indonesia, there is violent, anti-Muslim harrassment carried out by Buddhists, and endorsed by their leaders. No, seriously: http://theconversation.com/violent-buddhist-extremists-are-targeting-muslims-in-sri-lanka-92951 If I have gathered anything from competitive religion, it is this: some asshat can abuse any philosophy for violent, criminal ends. With that in mind, it begs the question: why do give any of these ideas special treatment? Build the wall between superstition and civic government. Because every door you make for a Buddhist or a Christian with special "we have to respect this, its sacred" juju, gives it to radical Muslims, Satanists and *gasps* atheists.

Athiest zealot: Dick on a computer, is slightly rude Christian Zealot: "Well, I don't care what "science" and "medical experts" say, the magic medications my head spirit guy claims kill babies! Don't doubt me! My faith says you can't doubt me!!! Judge Kavanaugh says you can't doubt me" (Note: he indeed ruled for this magic spirit fallacy) Muslim Zealot: "Let's blow things up" So....maybe there is a gradient

Dude...I think you are barking up the wrong tree. I am fully aware that social groups commonly steal from each other. This thing was about the "IMMA THUMP MA BIBLE, AND THAT MAKES ANY THOUGHT IN ME HEAD ENOUGH FOR THE GUV-MENT!!!" group, and the fact that they chose the guy who absolutely does not follow the bible drum they play.

Yesterday, I decided to go "off base" I, having researched the Alt-Right Playbook, decided to employ those tactics. There are more. And, to be blunt, I was an insufferable (censored term that refers to female genitalia) Here is the thing: It was effective. I used the stupid lingo that I've seen here (C uck, NPC, triggered, snowflake), and while they were non-sensical, they fared better than the reasoned debate I had been trying. Out of all the people, only one critic had anything resembling a cogent response. DC Tom, this is probably a dubious honor, but you hit me good, well, and with a clean an concise point even I on "be as Fox News as possible" could not shrug off. I honestly have to give you kudos for that.

Well, it's funny because I see them treat the opposition like the devil. And, let's be honest here, I have seen enough art of God Emperor Trump (no, I am not kidding, this sadly exists. There are parts of the internet I wish I could unsee) In fact, I believe one of the early posters referred to HRC as the spawn of Satan. Which, hey, I didn't like her either, but hey, when one side starts basing their choices on 2000 year old myths you lose some credibility. If I told you that I sincerely believed that Loki affixed his testicles to a goat's beard, and therefore I didn't believe in vasectomies you would look at me like I was a gibbering nutcase. But when Tasker talks about how his rights are offended because Starbucks used a different color coffee cup, his rights have been trampled and he is being persecuted. and yet, my Norse Poetic Edda reference has as much validity as his book of worship. ...yeah. coming into work and being c ockslapped in the face is not business as usual. That doesn't make it better. ...you mean, are you willing to say that Q Anon is not a 4chan and 8chan based internet theory about...what was it again... A secret cabal of devil worshipping pedophiles in the highest branches of government. I'm just stating that. Are you disputing that? Because those sound like statements. and I dont see you refuting that in your last post.

Wow...this is...worthy of study to be honest. I am honestly curious at this. *adjust glasses and begins dictation* "Subject is an inhabitant of 4chan and 8chan. He repeatedly posts from the wild conspiracy known as "QAnon", a subculture dedicated to trying to piece together random reports about a secret society of devil worshipping pedophiles, which includes every president of the last century and Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump is part of a shadow movement to deliver indictments to this group." "In spite of clinging to a theory that furry hentai fanfiction writers would be ashamed to claim, he has appropriated the term "NPC" for anyone who disagrees with him despite the reciprocal term of "soyboy" for people who cry "fascist"." "Proximity to 4chan and the term "NPC" indicate someone who really can't get laid. I will keep observation, but I don't have long term hopes for the future."

Well, I appreciate that you understand my difficulty speaking to you and your friends. It's been like shoving electrodes into your grey matter looking for signs of life. Also, maybe : A) dont claim to be motivated by a work of religious text and then be butthurt when I use it against you and B) dont include a quote, and then a quote about how quotes can be twisted by evil people. It really mixes your message. /takes bow *Pats head* Awww, the beta c uck NPC can meme

Well, I correctly referenced multiple quotes of scripture that showcase my detractors as critically flawed in their arguments and hypocritical, and they so shut down that they've moved to "I'll pray for you" in a few instances. But if you are referring to my attempts to win people over with superior reasoning, basic research and having a horizon broader than "she turned me into a newt. BURN THE WITCH!".... oh yeah, I know it's not going to work. I can't reach them. But then, it is fun to show how much they are what they claim to hate: a bunch of hypersensitive, whiny snowflakes with a persecution complex.

Well, I'm not an expert but it's part of Jesus' address after being baptized by John. It includes the Beatitudes, and is prefaced by "judge not, yet ye be judged." And yet, right before, it has this pearl: Love that double standard 45 fans...

*Pats your head* Aww, you're so cute. It's adorable. It's like watching the slowest kid in the class trying to come up with a witty retort and instead pissing his pants. You can't help but pity them.