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Was the OIG report delayed by the Republicans or by democratic efforts? Okay, one or two trials. Can the Democrats keep it to inconsequential underlings? What if Horowitz's evidence doesn't fundamentally transform the narrative? Certainly the MSM is going to fight that tooth and nail. Again, my bigger point is the GOP needs to do better handling this situation. familiarity breeds comfort. But, I certainly hope you're right Good to hear, thanks. I think the one universal truth is we are all tired of this.

Yep, I understand all that. But my points remain. How many Americans have taken a deep look at the facts in these cases? Obviously that has happened in our little PPP bubble but how many nationwide have? For those people, they see 2 truths being yelled, both sides equally emotional and imo immature. Which side will they fall on when the MSM stays on point with their approach?

And how likely is it that happens before the elections? How overdue is that IG report again?

I don't disagree with your thinking, but that's in a purely intelligent rational world. I would say people are intellectually and emotionally tired of the entire situation, are definitely tuning out, but will track the media blurbs from a distance. And that will favor the Democrats UNLESS a vast majority of the country agrees with you about MSM credibility. And that's a hell of a risk to take. Which is why I say Repubs need to get their heads our of their asses and realize they need to plan this very carefully, respectfully, and not just assume the facts will seal the deal.

The democrats aren't in trouble. They have the upper hand. From the minute they stopped humming and hawing and Pelosi decided to proceed this was going to be the end result. Turn it over to the republican Senate and politicize the hell out of it with help from the media of course. How hard will it be for the media to proclaim bias and a corrupt process when Lindsey Graham says and does things like this? https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/469992-lindsey-graham-basks-in-the-impeachment-spotlight “I’m not going to read these transcripts. The whole process is a joke,” Graham declared in an impromptu hallway press conference. So, conservatives decry how if GOP were doing the things Schiff and dems did during impeachment there would be a media uproar? Well, it'll happen for sure in the Senate if the GOP isn't intelligent and careful about how they do this. They need to be more respectful of the process and carefully plan the trial as the media will be working against them. If GOP senators had brains they would have the media believe they would be willing to impeach. Graham or some other GOP sen already declared a few weeks ago that if it gets to the Senate Trump won't be convicted. Those on here who enjoy how much Trump gets the media and far left riled up? Well, don't look now but Pelosi and Schiff are doing the same to the GOP. Big difference will be the media coverage. Repubs better grow up real fast, realize what's at stake and very carefully plan this to undermine the propaganda. They need to play the game far better, they are getting beaten badly. The endgame is very simple here: lack of impeachment the fault of the Senate GOP (see inflammatory quotes from Graham et al), give Dems control of government in 2020. You can even leverage all Trump's judicial appointments to that end. IG report and Barr? Well if they can water down the IG report enough, they can and will demonize Barr's work as biased and politically motivated. Things have been delayed so much already, if Dems can stretch it to the elections and win, then it all goes away, just 4 years later. Ah, that darned government red tape!

Excellent post, I agree with your conclusions but from a different angle. The game shouldn't have to hang on Josh's arm (or legs) save a handful of times each game. And that's been a big part of his problem as he has tended to play that way. IMO, he is definitely improving. I went to the Cleveland game and while he did a great job pre-snap, he was very inconsistent with his reads and understanding the design of the play post-snap. I thought he improved that a lot against Dallas, that late 3rd/4th quarter down-your -throat drive has been lacking all year. Odds are he fails the Baltimore test but I'm not convinced anymore. Definitely going to watch!

I'm staying over-optimistic and hoping we can win the East. If Houston upsets NE that would be huge. If we could find a way to beat Baltimore, it becomes entirely possible we beat NE. If we win out we should take the East because an NFC loss to Philly vs hopeful NE loss to Houston. I'd rather see Cleveland beat Pgh because Stillers may throw in the towel. Josh Allen took a step forward reading the D against Dallas and that also fuels my optimism

Maybe more people just tuned in to see what our team is really about? We do get stigmatized, this team and town. Despite articles talking about how we "crushed" the cowboys, they were moving the ball on us all game and it was an entertaining game until late.

Nice. The point is that this team continue to develop. Gaining playoff experience is important development. How far has this team advanced game 16 compared to earlier losses? I was at the Buf/Cleveland game. Allen seems to do decently reading the defense pre-snap but was very inconsistent going through his reads and understanding the design of the playcall (who would be open where). All that he's working on. What if he turns the corner last game of the season? What if the importance of the playoffs help him turn the corner, even in a loss? Our Bills are a solid team, but not elite. I'd rather have us lose to elite in the playoffs then sit at home watching someone else.

You have to give McDermott credit for realizing his team was being over-coached to not make mistakes and correcting that emphasis. No matter what level you coach, mistakes happen because human beings play the game. I've definitely found that the harder your players play, the more chances of mistakes. The more you just fixate on their mistakes the less harder they play. But, if you coach on what they're trying to do and reward and tweak that behavior while challenging all of them to cover each other's mistakes, well, try it and watch your team's winning culture develop. ?

I think part of it is that who do you bring? Universities, lenders, and federal government all play a role in this mess. But ultimately, the laws regarding educational loans must be changed. Of interest to me (from Wikipedia): The schools with the highest amount of student loan debt are University of Phoenix, Walden University, Nova Southeastern University, Capella University, and Strayer University. That isn't predatory, huh? My ex actually worked at an independent higher education center and got an idea of how their predatory works: They target lower income people, aggressively market the affordable higher educational dream to them and they pay for school strictly through federal loans. These are people who usually are ill equipped with the habits to succeed at higher learning, and usually stick around 1 to 2 years before flunking out. The school doesn't care as they have their money and the loans come due for the former students. The school just keeps finding new students, their own Ponzi-type scheme.

Punishment is certainly appropriate. The degree of it is not. Which was my point. You tell me how, after two months and two missed payments, there's $3000 worth of court costs because I couldn't find it. And until you pay that off, all that interest keeps adding on to your principle and increasing the $ of interest you owe. Keep in mind I had more loan $ then her and payed them all off in 8 years. Her loan came due in '93 (she defaulted that year) and I married her in '99. Money was tight, I calculated an appropriate payment and made double payments, especially after my loans were payed off in 2004. November 2010, we finally faithfully paid the loan down to the original principle. In 2012, excluding what she had payed before I knew her, I calculated we had payed off the entire loan amount + interest+ $2200. But we still owed $8500 principle (out of $10,100 originally). There are a lot of people and their parents saddled with paying a never ending loan. The loan administrators are not willing to work with you or when in a good mood offer to settle for cash payment $500 less than the outstanding principle. I have a pristine credit score and am all for punishing irresponsibility but the degree of it is garbage for these loans.

Punishment is tacking on over $3000 of "court fees" for defaulting, which must be completely paid before any payment goes toward interest and principle. Then telling you to pay a monthly payment that doesn't even cover the monthly interest accumulating. This was what happened to my ex for making a couple bad decisions while being fresh out of college and stuck in a bad marriage with no money. They should forgive some of these educational loans, they should forgive the older adults that long since paid off past their original principle and interest and are still mired in the loan.

Lots of Bills fans at the game today, I would say about 35% on our side and endzone, about 15% Browns side and dog pound. We were well represented today.

The flu is a virus, which is capable of mutating into many slightly different forms. The flu shot protects you against the most common forms of the virus they chose to use for inoculating. It doesn't prevent you from dying, it greatly reduces your odds of contracting the flu.

I think we'll represent well. Earlier this week, tickets were more expensive for us than the Steelers game. I'll be at the game with my 2 brothers and 3 of our kids. My son is a Browns fans but everyone else is Bills fans

That's the point I was trying to make to you. It's the end effect on a country and its people. You blew up a nuclear reactor with a weapon, it's an act of war because you inflicted violence and harm on another country. Doesn't matter the weapon. Certainly the definition of war will change because of the technology. Hardship, physical and mental harm will all have to be accounted for. The weapons are changing but it's the target and harm inflicted that truly define an act of war. Your definition of war is definitely very broad. But again, 44 had no authority to weaponize foreign intelligence agencies. Just because there were higher up people involved doesn't prove it was a concerted national government effort to use MI6 and GCHQ against Trump. A small group of people is certainly a conspiracy, but doesn't make it a broad based national conspiracy, or entire agency conspiracy. Back in the US, you think there are many, many other agents besides Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Strozk and the rest of the known bad guys knowingly trying to do this to Trump? Or was this the main group and subordinates acting under orders not fully aware of the false basis and lies behind it? I just prefer to wait for actual evidence as to how broad it really was because I believe a lot of foreign help was connections to the USIC bad guys and a dislike of Trump, nothing more. I also believe most of the significant US protagonists have been identified and most of the lower agents unknowingly assisted. But we'll see. Also, we're mostly on the same page about the conspiracy and Russia/Obama media dichotomy. Obama and our IC's behavior is definitely the most frightening part. And I'm not ready to believe that Trump ran on ending your shadow war. Most people like me voted for him because we hated Hillary more and having a businessman outsider to rile the morass of government was a good thing, not specifically because of "fighting the deep state". I'm not saying you're wrong, but more needs to unfold before I acknowledge that your perspective is the correct one.

Sedition can be argued. But there is no violence or weapons associated with these acts so there is no treason. US law was written this way in deference to kings and totalitarians using "treason" to persecute their "enemies". The intelligence services? No, can't sell that dog unless you can prove an organizational effort from the top down. Just because you enjoy conspiracies doesn't mean every individual act is a indicative of a systemic conspiracy. Russian meddling, absent any proof of vote corruption, was simply a political stunt and I think you know that all too well. I don't give a damn what the media tries to say, even if Russia had managed to hack our system and significantly affect the vote count I doubt we declare war on them militarily. How so? I mean, the weapons have gotten more advanced and remotely controlled but it still involves forcible acts of violence against people and countries.

Yes, let's back up. First off, there's a yuge difference between overthrowing a legitimate government versus attempting by fraudulent means to have a president impeached. If Trump gets impeached and Pence becomes president there is no governmental overthrow and certainly no coup. None of his fraudulent accusers have assumed power politically, militarily, or altered our system of government. Where's the treason? Act of war? England, Italy, France, Australia committed an act of war? Are you insane? Did citizens and agents within these countries play a role in this fraud? Where does this balloon into entire countries committing acts of war against us? Please realize the fact that since we are still on friendly terms with all these countries, maybe you should reconsider your take on this as being too extreme and ignorant. Our country and certainly congress do not recognize these as acts of war, even if they did it is not done by force so no treason. I am no lawyer so feel free to discuss but let's do the dime tour. Treason in the United States: SECTION 3. Clause 1. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open court. Levying war against the US: The assembling of a body of men for the purpose of effecting by force a treasonable object; and all who perform any part however minute, or however remote from the scene of action, and who are leagued in the general conspiracy, are considered as engaged in levying war, within the meaning of the constitution. Enemies: enemy of the United States means any country, government, group, or person that has been engaged in hostilities, whether or not lawfully authorized, with the United States Hostilities: The term “hostilities” means any conflict subject to the laws of war. The laws of War: the law of war is that part of international law that regulates the resort to armed force; the conduct of hostilities and the protection of war victims in both international and non-international armed conflict; belligerent occupation; and the relationships between belligerent, neutral, and non-belligerent States. So, to answer your question, an enemy of the United States (whether foreign or domestic) is engaged or has engaged in armed force or violence against the US or its citizens, etc. And people who aid and support these enemies are also guilty of treason. Where has that happened here? There is no treason.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna848651&ved=2ahUKEwjz2YyKpsblAhVFPK0KHVw7BakQFjAUegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw2YDt1ND1JMMCZcJdg010Z0&ampcf=1 Which enemy have they adhered to?Keeping in mind an enemy is a sovereign we are at war with. Who's the enemy within who is committing acts of war to overthrow the country and change our form of government? You want to argue it is a coup, fine. But treason is just plain stupid, on par with the far left's TDS. I daresay the people you feel are treasonous would argue they have acted out of a sense of loyalty to their country, Trump's behavior unbefitting a US President and therefore anti-American.

I'm not a baseball fan. Can anyone tell me how long the impeach signs were allowed to be up?

Yes, given our history there's a significant chance it may be a fluke. Winning trumps whining. Consistency then respect.

Who cares how the media treats us? Just win, our record will say it all. For once, we have an easy schedule this year.

Dad and friends say James acts like a boy, wears boy's clothes with dad (over girls clothes). Mom's a pediatrician, insists James be called "Luna" by dad and anyone who comes into contact with him and begin the psychological evaluation process for hormone therapy to transition. Oy. Maybe this 7 year old is affected by the divorce? What kind of parent pushes for risky hormone therapy so young? The kind a jury favors I guess. Wow.

500 record when they mostly schedule the toughest opponent they face at home for the white out game. 8-8 overall, or 6-6 if you reject the early games that were "student only" whiteouts. 2005 was one of those "student only" whiteout games against Troy Smith and the Buckeyes. I remember that game and a strong buckeyes team being rattled by the atmosphere. The entire stadium was white, but whatever.