HardyBoy

Kinda wild you'd lose a national sponsorship for growing a plant.

I mean I do think not having the ability to truly chill out during the bye week had some impact. It's not like he was sitting in a beach relaxing, he was arguably doing something that took more mental energy than preparing during the week. Not because it's harder (nfl qb is the most mentally intensive position in sports), but because it was something new to him. Have to imagine shooting a commercial, meeting all the new people, doing take after take, etc left him more tired/mentally drained at the end of the day than a random Wednesday preparing for a Sunday game. No, I don't think it is causing him to throw interceptions. Yes, I think the overall mental stress, that he didn't decompress from over the bye week could be leading to him losing his ability to control his impulses and is leading him to try and take on three defenders to gain 5 more yards after he's already gained 30 (talking about the run against the lions in the first half).

He's gone downhill a lot, or I know better now. He's definitely better then the dolphins radio guys (at least the ones through 2019). They are the worst I've ever heard.

I'm grasping at straws by pointing out a specific example of what can happen if someone comes back from an acl injury too early?! Are you serious?

Oh no! I messed up the order of the posts! I meant to post the other guys post first and then use yours to prove my point! I was not just agreeing with you, I was saying you were saying it better than I could!

^ Literally the post above your's said it perfectly Because at one point the guy was only coming back from his first acl tear and looks like he screwed up the rehab sadly. If the muscles are imbalanced strength wise or don't have sufficient endurance, including the little muscles, then that leads to secondary injuries. Basically the oppisite side muscle can't support the amount force being generated (usually the quad is stronger than the hamstring for example) and the force is then transfered to the ligaments and tendons and you get an Achilles tear or hamstring tears. Look at rates of knee injuries in girls high school sports. Dwarfs those of boys. Has a bit to do with lower center of gravity I believe, but really it's because of muscle imbalance and the muscles not being as strong. You don't rush back from knee injuries, especially where there was a prolonged lack of physical activity not because of the ligament, but because of the muscles around it.

Sarcasm? Otherwise where have you been?!

Right, so people need to stop saying he should have been back in eight months.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34997019/49ers-cb-jason-verrett-suffers-season-ending-achilles-injury Edit2: Actually fully relevant. He tore his acl in 2016 and has had chronic significant knee and lower leg injuries ever since. Looks like the first knee injury turned into a secondary knee issue, which turned into an Achilles, which turned into another acl, which turned into this most recent Achilles. Edit: this poor dude must have something going on with his mechanics (like RGIII or Zion Williamson in the nba). Not sure it's the best comp fully in retrospect because of it to White, but gotta be careful rushing people back if they are showing muscle imbalance or not adequate muscle endurance, which again I'm not sure is the case here. This guy tore the knee Sept last year too, so before White by over 2 months: "The Achilles tear is the latest in a long list of significant injuries Verrett has suffered since entering the league as a first-round pick of the Chargers in the 2014 NFL draft. Before Verrett tore his right ACL on Sept. 12, 2021, he also had played just six games in a four-season span (2016-18 with the Chargers and 2019 with the Niners) because of a torn left ACL in 2016, persistent knee issues in 2017 and a torn right Achilles in 2018 that lingered into 2019."

Navy beans, navy beans... Sandler is performing in Raleigh this weekend, and my wife and kids are going to be out of town. It's like absolutely perfect, except I'm still not doing large indoor crowds...arg!

Kate McKinnon is on the bills now?!?!

I mean he's probably not in game shape yet. So you'd what, play him for two snaps, pull him off for a bit and then two plays again. That's a lot of time for him to get cold muscles between reps. He needs to be able to play complete series I would think before they put him on the field and have his muscle fatigue be above a certain threshold. This is all being scientifically measured by the sports medicine team, which is elite.

I think there's also the fact that people have pushed back against societal norms that earlier generations just simply accepted. My father in law, when my now five year old was twoish pulled me aside and asked me to please not turn him into some marching band baton twirler. My guess is he didn't like the fact that my son saw a pink dance outfit at a garage sale and asked for it and would wear it and rock out to live music on YouTube. My kid can do whatever he wants and if he wanted to dance around to Phish or the Grateful Dead or whatever in a pink full body frilly dance costume party on kid. He's super into football now for what it's worth, but people get way too hung up on what should be, and don't think about according to who. It's so often the same people pounding the drum for personal freedom that most often give up that personal freedom by conforming most strongly to arbitrary social norms, ironically established to sell plastic crap (see blue vs pink being boy and girl because of marketing). Plus, football is boring.

Oh I'm well aware of how complicated being an nfl qb is and how much recall it takes to play at that level... like I said, it's insane

that’s the craziest part, insane

I was one of the people who was very unhappy when he was cut out of camp. He wasn't going to get a shot here to show his skills.

It’s going to be an amazing running gag, I can’t wait! My sense on the issue was the timing aspect of it and the lack of mutual respect and understanding of value PMS was providing in terms of building excitement for the NFL. My guess is this was a situation where an immediate cease and desist was sent. Also, there is a tiny part of me is wondering if this is an intentional fake thing they’re doing to drive interest. I doubt it, but PM got a big push from the Dan Lebatard Show early on and I could see that…they also were definitely not trolling their audience when he went hard after the MLB. I’m not watching PMS for the highlights or the logos, I didn’t even realize they really showed highlights and I don’t pay attention to logos (like I said, I’m super pumped for hand drawn logos though). Same with Dan Lebatard, I’m not consuming the content for the sports insight so much, as the poking fun at people who take sports way too seriously. Someone earlier used the term zeitgeist and I think that’s spot on. The NFL should tread lightly, because as much as anyone in the sports media landscape, Pat McAfee either captures or controls the zeitgeist really well. Also, they did recently talk about some darker side stuff of the nfl while talking about how the Packers never used tordol while AJ Hawk was there. It was brief and they kind of talked about it discretely like it was a third rail, but they talked about it. Lastly, I’m confused by the strategy here by the NFL. As a business strategy, are they focused on maximizing revenue or growing their business. I didn’t get the sense they were in a late stage milk all contracts, minimize marketing phase, but looks like maybe I’m wrong? Probably isn’t covered under fair use, because the contract for the highlights perhaps excludes that? At the same time, who cares about the contract, because you know they have these things called contract amendments that happen all the time. Just an unforced error on the part of the NFL, or maybe this is part of a coordinated plan with Irsay to take the focus off the Dan Snyder stuff…

Issue isn't a lack of diversity in the lower coaching ranks though...

They could get the pick back as a comp pick, potentially higher than the 5th they'd be giving up (assuming he will need to have a big second half to get a bigger contract). Actually, that probably needs to play into the equation when talking trading for one year rentals you don't plan on signing (no idea if the Jets are thinking that here).

I could see him being the panthers coach.

Don't forget Pennington didn't always have a weak arm. The better take away might be that Allen would be as effective as Pennington if he had the same arm strength. Allen has been great since his second year really manipulating people with his eyes (I'd probably say actually since the throw he hurt his elbow his rookie year was when that piece clicked which is what Allen has said). This is different, what we're seeing this year. This is what Allen meant when he said he was focusing on situational football, leverage and throwing right when people turn their back because he knows the step number when he'll have to turn. That's what Peyton Manning did. Lol at Allen saying he spent the summer thinking about getting out of bounds at the end of a game with his receivers...I mean if he was saying that he knew the specific steps the defender was likely taking and having your receivers exploit the same thing fully in sync.

Heard they said open a jar of walnuts… Telephone?

Is this a troll post? Cole Beasley in 2020 had just under 1000 yards iirc. Kirk had a 982 yard season and a 709 season while being targeted twice over 100 times as a slot receiver and he’s not being used a lot?!?

It's what happens when genuine explanations are framed as excuses by a small number of people with a vested interest in ensuring people are punching down against what they perceive as an inferior other instead of realizing together that the deck is stacked. This is nothing new and I'm not saying Bills fans perceive Bills players as others, I'm saying the social conditioning of valid explanations being excuses no matter what is so prevalent and ingrained that it pokes it head out in some very weird places sometimes. Make no illusions @ToGoGo, this is deeply ingrained stuff and you're only noticing it because this is so clearly a medical issue to you (and me as well), but I have to think we're not coming anywhere near noticing it in the majority of situations. Check out Bob Dylan's Only a Pawn in their Game, he says it way better than I ever could. It's the bootstrap mentality at the extremes, with people not realizing the hypocrisy. How often do you actually get to see an argument to the extremes play out in real life and actually see how people respond to it? It's simultaneously fascinating and terrifying seeing the level of societal conditioning. "The Bills players should have just picked themselves up by their bootstraps, ya know? It was their own fault they didn't hydrate better, they must not care, bunch of losers all of them. "What's that? You're saying the conditions were just at the edge of the bounds of what the human body can literally handle in terms of foundational scientific truths? Hogwash, there ya go with your excuses and you know what they say about excuses! They stink, by the bootstraps!!!" It's basically the same thing as saying people who are working two full time minimum wage jobs and are spending three hours on public transportation to get there need to somehow work harder. Keep peeling back that onion though, and you're not going to have to get all too nuanced to actually realize how pervasive it is in just about everyone's way of thinking at least in some parts of the world (it's natural human nature, but amplified Manchurian Candidate style going back a really, really long time...like Hanging Gardens of Babylon long time at least I would think, it just happens a lot faster now with the internet, but maybe it can change in a positive way faster as a result as well). Shoot, Josh Allen is a great example of this and this takes literally nothing away from him. He is generationally talented and worked as hard as he possibly could to get where he is. That said, the system was exposed as clearly lacking in recognizing talent outside the standard pipeline, and Josh Allen got extremely lucky. Does anyone think he would have been missed if he lived in the same zip code as Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers or Josh Rosen? Spare me the Tom Brady went through hardship too because of where he was drafted, he was the starting qb at Michigan. I'll say it again. The system missed on who a lot of us believe will end up being the greatest quarterback of all time. Then, once he basically almost miraculously got a chance to get a scholarship and demonstrate his potential, this amazingly coachable kid was written off as a failure at what 20 or 21 with never having received adequate coaching. For sure he never got elite nfl qb prep level coaching until he got to Wyoming, but probably not really until the Senior Bowl. Then he starts throwing with touch after a week, but the narrative was established by then for like 90% of people: He was a failure, the worst qb prospect ever, a franchise killer. How many other Josh Allens', in football, and other areas that did everything exactly the same as Josh did (going juco, sending emails, more than qualified, etc.), but never got that offer because of some flaw in the system's measurement? Forget being historically amazing in what they do, how about merely adequate and hugely valuable to an organization as a result. Let's not make excuses for them though right? They just should have tried harder and they must not have cared enough, right? Really makes you wonder if the system failed here, or maybe the system worked exactly as designed... But I'll stop making excuses.

They're all mostly repeating the same things over and over. The first song should be like a minute long, it needs more words. I like this style of music, just not enough words there. I like the beat and the delivery though and would be a lot of fun to dance to. Something like this perhaps (I've got a Bills song I've been writing on guitar myself that has too few words as well, so no judgment, and I think I just figured out my next verse!): They were all doubtin, while we were droughtin, bumbling around for 17 years. Now the tables have turned, and we're crashing through em, we'll wait while you hold back your tears.