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Been there w you since ‘63, was live at SB 27/28 , and remember where I was for all of the above. We know what it’s like to love them , experience the penultimate highs, and the ultimate lows ( wide right, MSM, 13 sec are my most painful) and this team looks like the most talented with the exception of Bruce. I just need to see them win the Lombardi , so I can pass my last years remembering where I was when we won it all, erasing all those other memories ( like watching beebe at the goalline knocking the ball from Letts hands as my seats were along that goalline and walking out to the bus to the hotel after giving up 52 points), and live in peace! Lol! I hope this is the year , and it starts tonight. Have to admit I’m a little nervous , mostly for Mcd and Frazier to not be outcoached ( which has been all too common in close games) and those cbs who are sticking out as targets! Let’s hope it’s not like last year. Good luck , will be thinking of you , knowing what the years have been like. Just once we need the year to end well and we walk away happy fir days, not thinking over and over what could have been. Enjoy the night and each moment because the seasons go so fast. Knock on wood, fingers crossed , let’s start things out right ! Best wishes , RpMD 👍🍸

I think you’re right on target. I hate the idea of ignoring Pouer this year ; he has actually earned at least a 2 year extension, moreso with green sidelined and they need great safety play with those cbs. Edmunds tho has to realize he is pro playin to earn his bag from a different team next year. He can play hard for the ring , but with each signing , he has to see the reality that they signed Milano, and added two ne LBs to the squad this year. I think he has to play above prior years production if they expect to bring home the Lombardi. So many apologists keep calling people haters if they critique edmunds at all, but with that standard , Beane and Mcd must Be haters then as after 4 seasons they still haven’t seen enough to commit to more, and so they ( fan boys) can throw out names and say we are not real fans or we don’t understand the nuances edmunds brings and is asked to do! They will,talk aboit all the passes not thrown in his area. Yet in the end , did he make enough splash plays to finally live up to his supposed pro bowl status , did he finally have ints / PBU’s , / TFL’s , and sacks ? Or is it more soft and missed tackles after 5-8 yard gains, did he force fumbles with hard hits or slow up prior to makimg contact, did the d get off the field on third and long or,did we see 10-12 play time consuming drives ? This is a huge hyped year unlike any I remember ( and I was around for the 4 SB run and live at the last two ) and those teams were never hyped like this. I think this is their best shot ( despite the murderers row opening schedule. ), and the D under Frazier has to finally get sacks and be disruptive against Stafford, Tannehill, maholmes, Rodgers to make a few. Then the final say is Beanes, and the question will be definitively answered. I hope they run this team back because they want to be remembered like the boys winning back to back after a great year, and I hope edmunds deserves that chance. Early signs tho look like he will be depositing his bag in another city, and there’s no hate driving that.

You going to be the person telling the 6’5”: guy he can’t be a captain!? Lol ! What’s his responsibility as a captain, doesn’t Josh call the coin flips ? 1/3 of the starting D are captains while Tre is on pup and the rest are either new team members or rookies, so being a C on the D is a surprise if you are skipped for your position group! 😀 JK , yet he is the passive type compared to the other captains, except for his position group ( Milano is quiet/ humble , Bernard a rookie ) and the only reality check is he still hasn’t gotten any commitment or new contract assuring this isn’t his last year as a Bill. The players can speak all they want , but I bet he would rather have Beanes endorsement over just wearing a “ C”. That’s not being a hater ( every Tre supporter does that as opposed to just discussing his stats, easier to name call than just be fact based) as I think he seems to be a great person. Would love to see the “c” equate to PBU’s , a coupe of ints, and him actually running thru tackles ( rather than slowing down before he hits someone ;;sorry but the rookie from Clemson plays more violently on contact; watch the series Tre played against the Broncos ,,,,maybe he didn’t want to get hurt in a preseason game ?). He has lots of supporters, even the cover1 guys are predicting he will have a huge year with the revamped line in front of him , so it’s not “ hate” expecting him to make more splash plays like tfl’s and to create some hits that cause fumbles as opposed to how all we hear is how he affects passing lanes ( btw, how many W’s does wearing a C get you?) He needs to be better than he has been if they want the Lombardi and he wants to be back imho, and I hope that happens. Meanwhile , Bennett, Talley, Conlan, Spikes , Speilman, paup, bailey , and even Ray Bennett ( who wrote Darby the Dinosaur) and Mike Stratton ( hit heard round the world) have all contributed more to the Bills legacy than Edmunds in his first 4 years! Being a “C” is a popularity Check”; while having the C and being a super star like Allen and Miller is the reality check resulting in TEAM wins that I will “ listen up “ to ! The “ players speaking “ also results in the popularity of being elected to the pro bowl , and we all know how many of us listen to that charade as players have been elected to it while only playing partial years being injured. I will ultimately listen to Beane! Lol! This is a team sport with the Lombardi bring the goal, so other than shaking hands at midfield and calling the coin flip , who really cares who is a Captain; I would love to hear How important that is to Josh! Pretty sure he would say it’s a nice gesture but he is the first to talk about team accomplishments! Don’t insult people by calling them haters and telling them to “ listen up” , it’s stuff you might hear in high school. 😉🤣

It’s not really a high bar like when the Season was 14-16 games per year. I agree with you. With new running scheme under Kromer and Daboll being gone with his obsession over passing , plus we should be running games out more, 1000 yards is actually a a fairly avg accomplishment. It is just not such a landmark any longer. In fact if we don’t have one 1000 yd runner it’s a sign our o may not be playing from in front or running in the red zone etc like Mcd was asking for last year. Also could happen if they keep sticking to rotating too much and not defined roles and could also happen as we face more passing teams / better qbs this year a s have to play catch up. Basically , if it doesn’t happen it’s more Likely the season is not going the dominant route we are expecting from a w/L and could be from the d not getting off the field as we play from behind. I think Dorsey runs more and is less ego driven/ less cutesy in run situations than Daboll and it would be unexpected if they fail again. to have a 1000 yd back. I think Mcd gets more balance and dictates to Dorsey more than he felt he could with Daboll. Also see more prolonged drives and less punting this year. Side note, this debacle with ariza,Tre being placed on pup with no vet cbs, the disappointment with Howard , knox losing his brother, the o line issues with hart still on the squad ( Fina stated he didn’t see Hart making the team because of technique issues) , needing new holder , etc are a ton of issues for a supposed SB fav right out of the gate w a tough schedule. Somewhat reminds me of the early struggles / inconsistency seen last year with the home open loss, juggling o line, and that could be enough to lose home filed advantage in playoffs once again. ( Josh 0-3 in playoff road games). Will any of the mess of the last preseason game linger emotionally as they were so high off Denver game and the fell flat with Jobs on the line ? For such a talented roster , seems like a lot of coaching issues lingering that we shouldn’t be seeing in the 6 th year of a regime. Can’t just flip a switch and perception is mixed about how prepared they are for LA. Mcd has come up short in critical ,times (13 sec) , pressure is building for him to reach expectations. More questions than I expected for opening day! Just some thoughts.

Testing for CURRENT Sti’s is culture based ( urine antigen testing or less common urethral swab). It’s done in the face of current symptoms. ( discharge , painful urination , frequency etc) and would unlikely ever be a mass screening issue at a combine ( cost , false negatives if person urinated before test or just had IC the night before). Testing for chlamydia is urine or urethra swab and only done with symptoms. Many cases are subclinical after some initial minor ( very scant urethral discharge that then fades) so mass routine screening is not common in my experience ( have never worked for the NFL , but I did testing IN URGENT CARE with symptoms or history of possible exposure or concurrent disease such as if someone had GC goin on ). Blood testing for HIV , hepatitis , Syphilis ( esp the first two that THEORETICALLY can be blood or body fluid transmitted in a contact sport , tho unlikely, ) are easy to draw but remember they are just a snapshot of just that moment in time, and things like risk could change post combine as a practical matter. If someone has more risk factors ( Iv drug use or history of men having sex with men ) it’s possible they are screened to assess need for ongoing therapy or need for vaccination etc. I would guess against there being a mass NFL screening protocol but things might be done according to individual risk factors after a proper medical history and physical are done by team Drs. So ariza might be screened / tested if he was currently complaining of symptoms while there or admitted a possible exposure and a urine would easily show things. Chlamydia is detected with urine testing ( some may still do urethral swabbing but most now just rely on a urine specimen) and even easily treated pending results if he had symptoms. He could also be tested if he was informed by a partner that they tested positive. I still think that would be private, outside of the nfl and prob happened within a few days of unprotected exposure ( eg after having unprotected ic with a girl he may have developed a minor discharge , went to at an urgent care / clinic on campus. He probably was positive And was treated and called the partner to let them know he was positive and that partner would have to be assumed to be the source of his infection also requiring treatment. Sounds like he did the responsible thing in following up and I would think this all took place outside of the NFL initial evaluations so no red flags would be raised unless he chose to divulge his entire past health history. Just speculation based on my experience working in urgent care and just imagine the NFL only does basic screening as in a basic history / physical for screening healthy, asymptomatic players at the combine. They might then ramp up with more specific testing if someone is found to have findings or abnormalities on the basic screens ( they prob all get basic urinalysis done , I would even think they get basic drug screening as almost all companies do that now pre hiring based on my experience with work comp pre employment screening physicals ). I would find it hard to believe ariza went into the combine without all this being already resolved and if he had chlaymidia prior I am sure he would have already been treated. Why would anyone go into a job interview situation with untreated symptoms and then have to explain that, esp since it’s easily treated and relatively common and minor thing? Importantly tho to your point, There is no routine blood test done for screening for that ( chlamydia) , and the only reason to do blood tests specifically would be for screening for HIV, hepatitis , syphilis if he reported past history of sti, or they had records showing abnormal blood chemistries and they insisted on ruling out risk of concurrent/ other infection also being transmitted along with chlamydia. This Prob varies according to team specific requirements after their medical team reviews the medical history, and I highly doubt the NFL WOULD DO MASS STI screening in asymptomatic athletes. If they do some screen because of the CONTACT nature OF THE GAME, it would be for HIV, hepatitis , possibly syphilis which are all blood borne pathogens and there is NO routine blood testing for chlamydia or GC which are urine based tests now and usually only looked for with symptoms or post known exposure ( at least that’s how the real work world works in my experience having done hundreds of preemployment physicals for companies. I have never seen a company request STI screening as a routine for employment so NO RED FLAGS would be showing up in all likelihood. if someone here works with the NFL , please feel free to correct me ) Every other condition that can affect risk / performance is screened for , like heart health , diabetes, BMI, , hearing, vision , orthopedic ability to do jobs like driving a truck or sport related performance issues( like surgeries or prior things like acl tears etc). . Hope that helps a little.

No , I said if they used the words “ we are doing the CLASSY “ thing as their only reason, I would lose faith and repeat for them, and if that was their reason to cut a struggling in crisis young man , I would not follow them just like if they had signed Watson. “ Being “ classy” has nothing to do with their move. It is based on culture fir the organization,. Not some flashy word ; plus as more info came out it looks like the police possibly withheld vital info , perhaps even from the university as it is looking more like criminal charges may now be in the works. All I was stating was be thorough, complete the investigation, and they took 48 hours to do so. It was obvious it was going to drag on more. Show me where they used being “ classy “ in their decision. Don’t try to twist my words. I also expressed that if evidence was proven true , I wanted him off the team. But if the FO flippantly said this was a classy move , like you said , that is the epitome of mass hysteria, unprofessional management and just being simplistic minded. There is no class involved here. It’s business related , it’s a personal tragedy for a young man and the victim and it’s for the culture presently established and for the future culture for the team to be consistent and move ahead. Classy is doing something to sit in with a trend or a style of dress is “ classy”, not deciding with little analysis on a young man’s future. This was after gathering all possible info. and not indicative of some jerk reactions. Beane and Mcd both still spoke respectfully about him as he faces challenges ahead. Go read all of my posts , not take things out of context. It also came out they have been struggling with getting more info since July. Fans may use things like “class” act; there is no class system in business. It’s professional behavior to protect investments and goal oriented. It is Not about being perceived as “ classy “ as that term has no monetary or legal value. Again , show me where Beane or Mcd said they released ariza because it was the “ classy “ thing to do ! That’s your way of attempting to say “ I was right “ and that has no place in corporate decision making. They don’t draft or keep or release a player because it’s “ classy”! It’s a business and also a moral based decision. Parts of This same fan base is so “classy “ they have begged for sociopaths like Antonio brown to be on the squad.while I have consistently opposed such destructive actions for short term gain ! It’s not about bring an “ act” as that implies being less than truthful. It’s about being a professional organization with a mission statement and being sustainable! This is a multibillion $ company and they have the resources and TIME to do things according to their mission and not making judgements based on fans calling for being “ classy “ on a moments notice! That’s how I have seen great companies succeed. Once more evidence ( their words ) was coming out and things are looking more like criminal filings will happen, they made a mature decision decisively and I was always good with that. Hey , they knew about the civil action POSSIBILITY , and still only acted after it became reality and not theoretically possible. They were visibly shaken , and took no pleasure or joy in doing this and I’m sure they didn’t feel “ classy “ making that hard decision. I respect that , but not someone twisting my words as some attempt as a got ya moment! No one wins in these tragic human behavior examples and real lives , families are suffering. Think about that rather than trying to gloat and you might grow as a person. Nice try , but it’s a shallow trait and no one wins, not even you. That’s the reality and has nothing to do with “ being classy”. 😉 I will remain a Bills fan just as I have since’ 63, and it’s obvious they did the hard thing to do and they did it with much thought and as much investigation as they reasonably could while facing a press corp trying for click bait and being critical that it somehow should have been easier and more immediate. Where was this great holier than thou press contingent when Ariza was drafted if they are so infallible? Being in medicine for 40 plus years I have been honored to be allowed to experience loss, death of close friends/ patents, DV, child and sexual abuse, addiction , depression and suicide, aging and cancer and most of life’s hardest moments in the company of my cherished patients. None of life’s great challenges reaches resolution because it was the “ classy” solution responsible. That is not real hunan emotion.or how tragic things resolve. Just my humble opinion., and I don’t apologize for my experiences as I have empathy for both victim and Ariza just beginning their life’s journey. Best wishes.

Man ,I feel for the OP; 10 straight preseason wins and then this total game and social debacle! Hope the pregame provided a wonderful experience , and that you got out of there with little harassment and some good friendships ! I was just listening on Sirius and it was still a boring , painful experience ! Lol ! You even endured a lightning delay! What an experience; one of those “ Billsy”:type deals! Still betting the positive outweighed the negative , so hope you got safely home. If I may , it reminds me of my SB 28 experience! Took my parents , met the new Jags owner , Wayne weaver , at the NFL Experience! Lead at halftime , so far so good! Then Tt fumbles , cowboys grab the lead and it all goes south. Get harassed walking out by Cowboy loyal fans. Last live Bills game I ever attended with my father who Later passed from lymphoma. Go to the Atlanta airport to fly back to Jacksonville and at the gate , who is standing right in front of me but Bisquit , Cornelius Bennett ! Easy to recognize. So this was his 4 th SB loss ( my second SB As I went to 27 the prior year ). I was thinking , hey.say hello, thank him for years of great entertainment and pride as a fan! Big dude compared to me. Right before I got the ciurage to say hi , he goes into a verbal , loud tirade at the gate counter because he was flying out to the pro bowl and he was bumped from the flight as it was full ! He goes into the voicing of “ Do you know who I am , do you realize I just lost in the Super Bowl, and more nice things ! Neeless to say , no introduction or autograph request from me as I cowered behind him! Lol! So close yet he might have already been in Hawaii ! Started out well as such a promising trip ! Now a 4 th SB loss and a player who I loved watching being human and melting down two feet away! Still tho some fond memories, and I hope the OP still had a great time ! Find that silver lining and keep the faith! Go Bills and best wishes! 😀🍸

Do the names Vick , Lewis , Watson, beast mode, Antonio brown, Terrell Owens , Michael Irvin , the Vikings r b who whipped his children with cords ring any bells for you? Pretty sure public opinion didn’t keep them out of the if you got talent , you can play league. Hey owners with happy endings, and those videoing cheer leaders changing , and coaches with volumes of racial emails still made it back in the league! If contrite , a talented virtual baby first offender will most likely play again. Our country tends to give second chances if someone is accountable and sincerely apologetic and seeks personal redemption/ change. If a recidivist sociopath like Brown got several chances , I am going to believe if found guilty yet contrite , he has so much talent his career is still salvageable. If Watson can still walk out on field after 66 cases , I think Ariza , while facing a tough path , could recover. Now if found criminally guilty , his punting skills may not be enough to overcome such despicable behavior. Never say never! 😉😊 Do the names Vick , Lewis , Watson, beast mode, Antonio brown, Terrell Owens , Michael Irvin , the Vikings r b who whipped his children with cords ring any bells for you? Pretty sure public opinion didn’t keep them out of the if you got talent , you can play league. Hey owners with happy endings, and those videoing cheer leaders changing , and coaches with volumes of racial emails still made it back in the league! If contrite , a talented virtual baby first offender will most likely play again. Our country tends to give second chances if someone is accountable and sincerely apologetic and seeks personal redemption/ change. If a recidivist sociopath like Brown got several chances , I am going to believe if found guilty yet contrite , he has so much talent his career is still salvageable. If Watson can still walk out on field after 66 cases , I think Ariza , while facing a tough path , could recover. Now if found criminally guilty , his punting skills may not be enough to overcome such despicable behavior. Never say never! 😉😊

Good post, thx for thoughtful input!

All fair points. Let’s allow all facts to come out. Is a 21 year old responsible for expecting friends to act like most decent people usually react. I know my friends back At that age I hung with would never act that terribly and I would trust them if I left a room. In fact my friends in undergrad did watch over some women friends who drank a little too much and had they sexually acted out , why would I be responsible.for them if I was absent and not watching it go down? If he watched without reporting it , then yes he would be just as guilty asan accomplish. Choose your friends wisely. I was hoping to get into Med school back then and when you know your career depends on being squeaky clean , you just can’t associate with people who lack appropriate judgement. Just like a career in the nfl , it’s that competitive and any negative marks are useD to weed out the field. Matt might be learning a costly life lesson , but he deserves his side to be heard out. If found civically guilty, then perhaps an arbitrator can help the bills in their resolution. There might be something positive out of this if let’s say like Michael Vick , he continues his career but becomes an advocate so more young men don’t make similar bad choices. Im just saying , let’s take some time and maybe helping him might be making lemonade from the worst lemons, while still not being dismissive to the poor victim. Just cutting him may not help in the long game. It’s analogous to helping someone overcome addiction even knowing they have harmed others along the way. Just a thought.

Not true. He Denys gulit but the female judge / arbitrator stated he committed the acts. Sorry but his lack of contrition is not lack of guilt. If she didn’t find him guilty , how could she legally have dispensed any penalties despite how light they were and ended with heavier appeals. He was found guilty , he just continues to deny it in his own mind. She expressly said she found he committed the actions he was accused of. That, my friend is being convicted of guilty behavior or she would have had to dismiss any requirements for him to sit out ANY games. The NFLPA accepted that ruling. The nfl appealed for stiffer penalties surrounding his guilt, and he was found guilty, convicted , and will serve stiffer punishment. Non conviction or innocence and he would be playing without suspension and a 5 mil$ fine!

Looks like he acquitted himself well and must have felt confident to do so. Better the third string qb risk any injury over our first string , harder to replace fg specialist as we look for a season preserving future solution. Imagine if he got hurt by a block attempt in a preseason game ; suddenly you have two specialists to replace in under two weeks , whereas Barkley is not expected to hit the field ! 😊

What exactly is “ classy” about denying due process in a matter that happened while not under any Bills or NFL JURISDICTION? How is rash emotional decision makinG BEFORE ALL FACTS ARE IN , INTERPRETED as classy and when is a subjective term like classy the basis of any court or legal precedents ? Please present documentation, not just your personal opinion. We are a society of due process and laws and what benefit is gained “ throwing a young adult “ under the bus “ ? Will that change the past or POSSIBLY JUST harm or create an additional victim? Shouldn’t we act responsibly , like adults with life experience and protect all vulnerable young adults , who are those most likely to make mistakes as they grow and mature? Doesn’t the law exist to protect us all , allow for punishment based on facts , precedent , peer judgement , and allow for rehabilitation after paying restitution if found guilty? Show me where the word classy appears in the Comstitution or Bill of rights , and please offer proof how your opinion should take precedent over our founding fathers time stood principals. Please provide example of your legal training and expertise in such case law. Young lives and futures are at stake and proper protocol is the precedent and most good corporations have legal teams guiding them , not just bowing to public definition of “ being classy” ! Just striking out emotionally is third world , dictatorial behavior and we can’t give in to mass hysteria behavior / mob rule just because you have an opinion on what is a non legal term, classy! Why not take appropriate time ( I seem to remember a certain qb case going on for two years now and has resulted in said qb being found guilty yet still eligible to play , rehab a career, get 230 mil$ and had 26 civil cases he settled , so it seems logical time and following the rule of law coukd be used to fairly solve one more case !). If you don’t agree , get involved in local politics , elect appropriate representation, become an attorney or judge , become a police officer , etc to effect positive change not just spout out non srnsical terms like “ classy thing to do “. You can even boycott a team or sport as your right , but you have no right ti act as a virtual signaling internet troll and expect serious adults to value such biased , emotionally based suggestion for action. I know I can say you don’t speak for me personally , and I hope my Bills team follows the laws and acts fairly for ALL INVOLVED. Certainly there is some midi ground like a temporary leave while investigating the facts. Just knee jerk quick action won’t change the past but could add more harm. Time is an ally and adds clarity. If found guilty after due process , I am all for severing any future connection to the young man and I pray he uses this life lesson to better himself and even help young men in the future. I firmly know I am not perfect and have learned to be a better man , dr, and spouse over 65 years of life. I believe thru life experience we are all capable of positive change and hope most deserve a second chance after human mistakes are committed ( excluding non remorseful murderers or refractory mentally Ill individuals). Classy is some term resolved for social status or elitism at the country club , and has no legal basis; it is just an emotional plea based in subjectivity. I remain open to actual written teachings / arguments in law proving otherwise. A single opinion lacks credibility and if Mcd / Beane come out and say we did the classy thing to do , that’s when I quit following the Bills under their leadership. Best wishes , nothing personal , just expressing my opinion and logic behind it. 😉👍

Most ridiculous generalization post I have seen. Sounds like projection imo. Of course he should be judged immediately based on your vast investigation of the case. The NFL has no jurisdiction in this and a true scum bag in Watson is still furthering his career with a guaranteed 230 million $ payout and his owners are supporting him while he still refuses to admit any guilt. Yet you want a 21 yo college kid to be judged and prohibited from any future without any trial or ruling just based on your emotional reaction. I have extensive training in DV, abuse , child abuse, etc , and have Been involved in cases in court and because IMO he deserves all the facts to come out and his day in court , that makes me someone who condones all sports of crimes in your words. what makes your opinion any more worthwhile than anyone else suggesting he deserves his day in court? Very narcissistic of you and actually very delusional , immature , and narrow minded. I guess our constitution and our country is also guilty of condoning criminal behavior thenas that’s what you are putting forth!a!? Funny , I am originally from south eastern Ohio ( around Steubenville) , and when I grew up there , people were open minded , intelligent , hard working , kind people who practiced fairness. You want to live in some realm of absolutes I guess and unless this is just sarcasm , you may have missed out on attending one of the great universities available in the state as this type of analysis is more in line with someone lacking in finishing their primary education. But you know he is a scumbag yet probably know nothing of his family , background , and couldn’t pick him out of a lineup if you were pressed. At worst , if he would even settle and no criminal charges are filed , then he deserves the consequences and if met , he would deserve a second chance in life because basically he is still barely an adult. You know there are tons of examples of worse in the NFL ( Ray Lewis involved in mirder ring a bell as just one example, who is in the Hof ). No one is condoning sexual assault, but let’s not condone lynching and vigilantism as normal behavior that is any more desirable. If you have such great conviction, go to law school , become a judge, become a police officer , do some actual good than just being a virtue signaling internet troll. Throwing a blanket judgement On those who believe in our system of the rule of law just makes your thought process suspect and irrelevant. Funny, I usually expect more from the great people of eastern Ohio who are great Steel workers , miners, and some of the best people I have met and roots I am usually proud of. Hey , OU is in that area , check out some courses after you finish your primary education. 😀😉. Thank God there are many more level headed people from the area that brought us Dean Martin ! Haha! Good luck with being such a worldly, analytical thinking person in your future endeavors. Go Bills and go Buckeyes ( and bobcats and my Toledo Rockets and Wittenberg tigers !). ( please don’t get me wrong, if proven to have done this he is a scumbag and no argument. All I am saying is it’s simplistic and wrongful to label people who just are arguing for letting the legal process to be allowed to move forward. That’s how we have a society and how our great country , the Best in the world if you ask someone like a wnba player imprisoned in Russia right now, handles things. Just because someone argues for fair process does not make them a scumbag by association. If proven by those responsible given that responsibility to investigate and judge, it is vile and I agree not someone I would want on the team. Just saying we have to let our system work; it looks bad right now but it is not IMPOSSIBLE there is more to the story, and trying to be impartial should not result in character assassination. BEST wishes during this highly emotional situation. Again, prayers fir all families DIRECTLY involved and I hope these young lives are not permanently ruined ).

That’s awesome , hope you have a great night and stay safe with your fellow Bills Mafia as the preseason closes. Would love to read your thoughts on players, roster implications, etc after you finish enjoying the game! Go Bills!

Let’s slow down. This kid has been upstanding through out his career and comes from a very good family. He is innocent until some civil or criminal conviction happens. His attorney stated they have multiple witnesses she was saying she was 18 and was not showing signs of intoxication. This could have been a consensual act with someone posing to be 18 or nothing at all could have happened. If she went to a hospital , a rape work up with dna / rape,kit / specimens should have been obtained with records and she would have been treated with meds for exposure to stds and hiv prophylaxsis and plan b etc. Hard to fathom how this just shows up coincidentally now with no prior red flags or smoke signals. Hospitals would surely have security videos to review as well as possible other video cameras in the area. I find it unlikely this could have been hidden from the Bills as they supposedly are very thorough in pre draft investigations. Using common sense , hard to believe with someone of his stature and fame there were no Prior warnings and no trace of abnormal behaviors until now. Just watching his biography on you tube a couple of weeks ago , he just seems to have always been a very driven , family and goal oriented young man. Could he have made an error or mistake as a young man , sure it’s possible, but he is innocent for now. He is not on the level of Watson with serial offenses as the worst case scenario. His attorney seems very certain of his client so I am willing to hold off any judgement, esp since saying they have witnesses testimony saying she was aware and not intoxicated. If some hard evidence like video or positive dna / etc shows up , the it’s a different story. This is one solitary case , so it should be easy to eventually be proven one way or the other. Also with other co defendants , someone will talk for a deal if it did occur to save themselves. Again , not a solo spree like Watson and three guys being involved should make it easier to find inconsistent facts or stories if this actusllly happened. For now, let’s let the process work out and he doesn’t deserve judgement at this point. If Watson deserves a second chance , certainly a young man like this also deserves to accept responsibility and a chance for redemption if this is proven. The truth will eventually come out , so currently he deserves his presumption of innocence as you would demand if he was your own son or family. If there was very solid , proven documentation , it s hard to believe nothing was filed until now. Remember how the Duke Guys lives were ruined and later vindicated when it looked so obvious they were guilty? His attorney said she was not alone and It seems illogical she was there without friends. So personally I am willing to let it play out as we let the civil process move forward. Stop the hate speech about how “ we don’t tolerate this in Buffalo unlike Cleveland “. Many on here have supported MARSHAWN to this day and he has been proven to commit actions placing lives at risk in more than one situation! This is an initial episode , and it’s still very cloudy and he deserves the benefit of the doubt at this point. People on here still talk about wanting to bring in the sociopath Antonio Brown , so let’s temper the pitch fork mentality for the time being. There are many examples of people using the legal system as their lottery as we were inundated daily with attorney advertisements encouraging suing for almost anything. Time to trust our good Gm Beane and staff to solve this within the appropriate legal channels and all we ever hear on here is how much people “ TRUST IN Beane” regarding the type of players he brings in and culture he has established. I believe Beane / Mcd evaluate character heavily and I trust their process as it’s proven reliable so far. This is the American system of justice and he deserves his side to be heard and then let the burden of proof fall as it may. Amber Heard is just one example of the me too movement being placed above actual reality and being misused , and so I chose to support him until proven otherwise, especially since he has been an upstanding young man with a supportive family his entire life. If he somehow faltered , he is so young he deserves help and a shot at redemption if he accepts responsibility ( unlike Watson who still says he did no wrong and continues to lack personal insight , yet he will be playing I the NFL later this year ! ) Prayers for both the young woman and for our punter that they both move on in life and I hope heal with time, and the legal system resolves this fairly resulting in both learning, surviving , and going on to lead productive lives.

Yesterday pat mcafee was talking about possibly returning! He actually went to training camp and kicked 32 balls , and said the last twenty were good and he felt ha hadn’t lost anything. He is seeing it as a “:sign”:, and possibly a reason to listen to his heart to return. He has a great relationship with Irsay , and said if colts were interested he would consider putting his YouTube career on hold as he is based in Indy already ! Not joking about this , was really contemplating this! Would have to work on deals with fanduel , othe sponsors , and he was concerned about all his Pittsburgh guys working with him who have all started home remodels etc. Hawk was supportive on the show as well. I couldn’t believe it but he was very serious. This Haack signing may end that fantasy tho. Macafee is apparently close friend with the punter who tore his Achilles and thought this might be a “ calling” to place sit for, help the guy out while rehabbing! I doubt it would happen but he did go to training camp , got their gear , and did apparently kick 32 balls for them. I can’t see putting a thriving YouTube career on hold just to go back to punt but these pros may miss the game after awhile. Crazy stuff, plus he would have to get clean I think from weed ( tho I’m not sure they screen for that any longer)! I really don’t think he was joking but hard to tell with him. He actually said he would think about it seriously this next week. He is probably still a better punter than Haack. Just a fyi little tidbit if you didn’t see his short about it on YouTube yesterday ! 😊😎

I said the exact same thing while watching with the shout is group. Heidi all over but then they came back to split screen! Only the Bills!

Check out the YouTube video by The officer Tatum. He is a prior police officer ,author now, conservative black male who started blexit with Candace owens, has spoken all over the country as a black male debating issues like athletes such as kapernick claiming they are oppressed etc.and he has been invited to the Whjte house during the Trump administration. I just mention that because he is not just some talking head with no life experience , as he has over a million YouTube subscribers and I have found him to be very fair about police shootings and police brutality issues etc. He has been there and done that so imho his input has perhaps more validity than talking heads and places like TMZ. HE USUALLY never comments on a situation without researching it thoroughly first. I think he tends to take a very common sense approach to iisues , and he was a prior div 1 saftey who aspired to play in the NFL , but was sidetracked by injuries. He played in the pac 10 I think , at either Arizona or Arizona State, so he also can relate as an athlete. He is also a devoted father and husband. He showed the entire video of Lynch’s arrest ( with his car missing the entire front wheel down to the brake calipers! ). He stated you just have to be in control of the vehicle to be accountable for a dui. He explained that means having ACCESS TO THE KEYS , BEING BEHIND THE WHEEL , BUT THE CAR DOESNT HAVE TO BE ON AND THE KEYS DONT HAVE TO BE IN THE IGNITION. LOOK UP “ FORMER NFL STAR MARSHAWN LYNCH ARRESTED FOR DUI” on “The officer Tatum “ posted on YouTube on 8/12. I would trust his analysis as he has arrested people as a police officer before in similar situations. I.can’t see how he gets off from this after watching the situation and having a police officer explain the process. Plus Lynch refused to get out of the car and was informed politely by the officer if he didn’t get out of the car , he would also be arrested for. obstruction. I think officer Tatum also offered good tips about avoiding duis that would be good info for young adults to view coming from someone who is very easy to relate to. He was very fair speaking about lynch in this situation May be worth the 9 min to view the video if you haven’t seen it , especially if you believe lynch will get off. I don’t know Tatum personally ( he is the nephew of former Raider , Jack Tatum as well , so he also has that tie to the NFL) but have followed him on YouTube and watched his career take off. Pretty impressive career turn around for a guy whose main dream growing up was to be in the NFL. REGARDLESS OF HOW LIKABLE Lynch may be at times , seeing how impaired he was , the damage to the car, and his prior history of breaking the law , he should lose any sponsorships and the NFL should quit using him for promotions etc. He could have killed an innocent person / persons and I wish him luck attaining sobriety while also vowing to never support any products he is associated with in the future. He is a flawed character and it may take quite a bit of adversity for him to ever be accountable for his behavior that has placed innocent lives at risk; imho not a joking matter any longer. Everyone deserves second , third chances , but at somE point you actually have to demonstrate you are sincerely changing, and obtaining and maintaining sobriety is not some unreasonable or unobtainable behavior. Best wishes, hope the video was worth your time if you chose to check it out! 😊👍

How is it more tolerable, exactly ? Unless your starting qb tears it after finishing the Super Bowl , the season result is pretty much affected the same way. There is no way to protect against a non contact injury, I don’t care wtf game it is. 😉 Guess you would suggest/ support all starting qbs to only walk / run while on the field in regular or post season games !? Pretty funny ! 😀. Just kidding around , but the preseason didn’t injure Wilson. Plus if Allen doesn’t see the field at all , esp after last years opening Pittsburgh great game , I would bet this o will look like they never played against real competition for a couple of games. Allen will do as told , but already stated he preferred to play some in the preseason. It’s his job, his career, and he likes playing it knowing the risks. If the firs team doesn’t play together at all before the first game and they lose , I am sure you would never be critical and all those predicting Super Bowl will just be quiet and never criticize Mcd for sitting them ! 🤣 This is not last years NFL’ s easiest schedule and the d won’t be facing a bunch of bottom feeding qbs ! Just saying , with all the hype , I can’t see most fans being happy if they look out of sync early , drop a few against a rough schedule , and then being ok with Mcd having not allowed the first units to play any in preseason. It’s not like the Covid Season where ALL THE TEAMS started on equal ground. Lots of starters have already seen reps in games. I don’t know , are the Rams not playing any starters in preseason? 😎

Hey buddy , hope you’re good ! I saw the live video of the guy who calls himself the “ thigh doctor”. Didn’t act or seem like a real doc to me. He was on with a Stethoscope listening to his thigh ( not exaggerating). Was also dancing around in shorts that he hiked up trying to show off his thigh development. Seemed more like a knowledgeable PT guy to me with rehab experience. If he is a real MD , I am surprised and apologetic , as some people just want to be influencers now as a career, and heck , it might pay more! Pretty laughable as I thought after 42 years in medicine, I had seen quite a bit! 😀😎🍸I just turned 65 on 7/30 and am finally retiring because of failed neck surgery , but keeping all my credentials active my friend. It’s hard to give that up after a lifetime wanting to get there ! Just saw a poll on Fox News that only 30% of the public trust Drs now , ( not hard to figure out why, guys like Pierre Cory MD who saved thousands of pts and is extensively published , is having his boards threatened by the ABIM for his work on a certain Nobel prize winning medicine etc while mandates of things keep happening , eroding trust in science , so maybe not a bad time to get out ). Then I saw a certain attractive female chiro with several thousand followers on YouTube treating a twitch E girl ( who posted her income as over 1.5 mil$ per month just from her only fans site alone !) , for “ sinusitis and allergies “ by “ manipulating “ her maxillary and frontal sinuses, and that’s allowed to still be posted and monetized !😊I did hundreds of flexible nasolaryngoscopies in the office and I never could figure out how to physically move/ manipulate a sinus non surgically.! 🤣😉. YouTube must be paying well , better than insurance companies ! So we get football players prognosis by YouTube and allergies treated by “ manipulation “ ! No wonder the public doesn’t know who to trust ! But yeah , the guy seemed entertaining and like a good Bills fan , but didn’t have the typical , serious and professional demeanor I think most might expect from an ortho. Just wanted to say hello and Hope your career is going good ; cherish it as from my experience , time goes too fast! 😊. I really wish you enjoyment and continued success in your career as a colleague and fellow Bills fan. Hope to chat more about the Bills as the season rolls along! Will enjoy watching all the games Saturday , Bills have a tough opening reg season schedule and the o line , new OC, ? About our cb’s and maybe Poyer early are some red flags for me especially after that opening Pittsburgh game last year. Indy will be tough even in the preseason, but not sure how much either team will show things Saturday given we play again in the regular season I believe. Nfl network said last year we had the easiest schedule in the NFL ( based on ending wL records) and we still ended up 11-6 ( their words not mine ! ) Does make me take those rose colored glasses off till we actually see real action; the afc is going to be really tough and McDermott needs to finally prove he can avoid stretches of lulls this year and step up his performance come playoff time as it’s not exactly been stellar other than the New England game! It really does showcase why Marv is a hof coach despite the SB losses as it’s just so hard to even get there. ( this post was solely replying to my friend mr weo and not intended as any medical opinion, just answering his question about the “ thigh doctor’s “ video analysis concerning Tre white after he watched him work out on video and he did make some interesting observations about mobility and whites ability to jump and land on the affected leg ) Stay safe and healthy! 👍

Maybe other positions , but I think it’s hard to argue that most qbs have their best years in the league as a rookie ! Usually the exact opposite, ala Peyton Mannijg etc. This is one time I would respectfully ask for real life examples, excluding Guys whose career lasted more than a year. For example it wouldn’t be proof of that thesis if you throw in career scrubs like Rosen or peterman. What legit , franchise, long term starting qb had their best year as a rookie in the modern era? Most either sit for the majority if their rookie year or suffer from interceptions and low completion percentage. They improve as they learn to read defenses , despite teams trying to take away their strengths ,because if they didn’t , they wouldn’t last as starting / franchise qbs. Their development may not be linear , but it sure isn’t trending down in their subsequent years or they are replaced. Ask mayfield, Darnold, Rosen,,,,,,,oh yeah,,,,,they are all with new teams, replaced because they have physical deficiencies, not because defenses have film on them now. These guys all have avg or below arm strength and they are immobile ( mayfield less so , but less mobile than Watson on a massage table ). By that logic , Brady should never be able to complete a pass or win again as there’s endless film on him. He , and in a similar fashion, Jones , will continue to be productive because they Also study tendencies and film and they have success because of intelligence, countless hours of film study , and despite teams having an abundance of film; they read the d and get the ball to the open guys on time . I’m sure if you asked they are better now than they were as rookies. So , yeah , prove to us who these qbs are in real life who had their best years as rookies and are still more than journeyman qbs ! 😀😊

Hard to see him not getting more sacks, picks, etc when now you have a future Hof player leading the d, and better d lineman in front of him at almost ever position. Only one way to go and I don’t think they record negative numbers or missed opportunities all that accurately. 😊 Hey , maybe he will lead the league in “ pass elevations” as a new stat ! It’s just like all the great arguments that passes are never thrown in the middle because he is so good, and of course it’s hard to prove a negative premise. I think the one real measurable is he is working on his 5 th year option and not a lucrative contract when Beane seems to find ways to sign big names/ impact p,Ayer’s he wants regardless of the cap. That is at least tangible. Is there really a huge doubt that he is probably the player that if off the field / injured , that most fans won’t believe our SB chances plummet because he is so irreplaceable!? Take Milano off the field and this D struggke. Poyer is much more impactful , he just wasn’t a high draft pick and is getting on the wrong side of 30, yet I still bet Beane does something to keep him happy and I bet that happens before anything else with edmunds. This is his last year as a Bill IMO, There are faster , younger LBs who can cover ( how many picks has he had , 2 in 4 years? , and he lacks PBU’s “;because they don’t throw in his area” ( because they throw frosding routes in front of him as he always drops deeply and he lets wrs come to him and many times long 3 rd downs get converted as it’s hard to remember how many times he has blown up a guy after they catch in front of him, which may also account for his lack of impressive FF numbers given his anazing “ size/ speed combination”! Great kid , but he is never mentioned with all the great Bills LBs like , Talley , Bennett, Conlan, Spikes, Spielman and even Ray Bentley was a harder hitter than Edmunds. He will never be mentioned with great LBs like Lewis, Taylor, Urlacher etc, which is amazing given he is the QB of a supposed #1 D! The Bills won’t make that mistake again of drafting a Lb in round one , and just look to this year as they drafted Bernard and they don’t seem extremely concerned about their Lb depth should edmunds be out for any period. He is a good player , good scheme fit, but his production will be replaced with a more cost effective version next year imo unless he has a career year of real plays, not based on imaginary plays that didn’t happen because teams game planned to avoid running thru his zone coverage. Great character man, one of the least instinctive 6’5” LBs in Bills history. I would love to see how this D looks with a real “ Jack Lambert”:mentality mindset who plays the part and isn’t out there just cuz he looks like he should be tough. Hard to trust it’s suddenly going to all click now after 4 years. When you hear hoof Beats and turn around , it’s usually a horse and not a zebra , right? 😉 It is what it is, he is who we think he is by now most likely. He is more cliche than wall of fame candidate. One thing is certain, the time for excuses has passed. ( yet I wonder the over / under on how many times we will hear “ he is still so young” ? Time to let him.grow up on someone else’s SB window! )

Searched and didn’t see this as a topic? Apparently hurt ribs in car accident, out for early part of camp and Trey officially starts on pup. Sorry if posted earlier , didn’t show up in search. Delete if duplicate. Not a great way to start the new o lines chemistry. Sounds minor but sometimes rib injuries can show as fractures later on films. Schedule is very tough early , beginning of season will be big challenge given many moving , new pieces.