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@muppy knows this stuff is close to home. We have hung out a few times here in San Diego. Always fun. My brother is 20 years with ICE on top of it. So the nerve is getting flicked a bit.

Mikie neck deep in the cesspool tonight. Ya gotta love it. 😂

I remember going into the Draft thinking we'd end up taking Michael Huff or Haloti Ngata. When Huff went 7, I was like "alright, it's gonna be Ngata then". When the pick came in as Donte Whitner, my jaw about hit the floor. I couldn't believe it. I liked the pick of John McCargo at the time of the Trade Up. Same for Ashton Youboty in Round 3 and Ko Simpson in Round 4. Little did I know the real victory would be in Round 5 in the form of Kyle Williams.

I think playing sets of the best stuff from bands that have similar styles would draw a wider crowd. 1st set: all Cars 2nd set: all Cheap Trick 3rd set: all Police A killer combo be 1st set: all Depeche Mode 2nd set: all Bowie ……if you need a spoon player or wax paper comb musician, my cousin Virgil Lee Henry is the best. Let me know.

They switched offensive philosophy after winning the first one?

And we ended up with Donte

Haha…yes, those Iranians with PHD’s are plowing in thru the Mexico boarder. They have double the rates of bachelor degrees vs Americans. I don’t know a single one without a double masters at minimum. They’re more successful in our country because of you. They learned our language, and outwork most here. That’s just par for the course for them.

I didn’t. Maybe you could sneak me into your reunion, start a new craze-50th H.S. Reunion crashers. A bunch of tube tied lonely, separated, unhappy women drinking alcohol and wanting to dance…..be like old times, shooting fish in a barrel.

@Beck Water I have not checked but I think fitz may have played in a true West Coast system his first couple years in St Louis Didn't really play much but I think he was in one early But the west coast verbiage system is very distinct... And it's a mouthful... A college kid who has been reading plays off of big boards on the sideline for years has a super hard time adjusting to something like that... I think Josh being in the EP has really helped them because he doesn't have to do as much thinking as say Jon gruden quarterback

Did they come here legally like my grandparents did?

You think this is about a nuclear bomb now? This is why it matters to have a chess player vs a checker player. To have egos checked. Nobody would argue over removing Irans nuclear capability. It was always about what comes next. This cant end with that regime in power. US assets and civilians will be at higher risk. Greater conflict will follow. It’s not as if we just dropped down a full house and called it a day. When you think this ends it won’t be over and that is the best case scenario. We will only be left with a greater commitment of military assets to that region. Anybody who thinks that isn’t the case is living in MAGA land. Let’s try and not be dumb here.

Those are fair points and very possible. I don't think he's a lock yet either. I do think he's "most likely " going to get in IMO But a lot can change with the points you brought up

He didn't play under a traditional full West Coast system But as I said originally West Coast is a verbage system and a style of offense Chan gailey preferred EP verbage but instilled a lot of spread West Coast elements to his offense... The quick passing game was an extension of the run.. the screen game was an extension of the run .. he like a zone system like WC... He did not use West Coast verbage though he was one of the more modern offensive coordinators to take principles of the West Coast offense without the verbiage, and mold it into an EP offense But it had a lot of West Coast principles, besides the verbiage Most modern offenses have West Coast principles built into them now.. but not all of them have the verbage which is specifically what I was talking about in this thread The heavy verbiage of the West Coast offense is tough even on professional players and they have a lot to think about.. the EP verbiage simplifies everything to a rudimentary point So gailey had EP verbiage, and a modern offense that was modeled after West Coast coryell spread everything.. I don't think you could actually put a name on his offensive style... he really was a very good offensive coordinator

That’s my weekly jersey.

? when did Ryan Fitzpatrick play in a West Coast system? What did Bill O'Brien run in Houston - thought that was E-P like? Fitz best season was with the Jets...under Chan Gailey....E-P system

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Leverage that pushes Israel to a 2 state solution - which is of course what the libs here think should just magically happen and they’ll live happily ever after.

Simple verbiage... With mirrored play calls allow streamline play calling through all your personal groupings We can run this out of 11 or 12 personnel streamlessly

For me, it's been Khalil Shakir, both as a player, and person. But, by the end of the season, I was really becoming a fan of Ty Johnson, who's a bit of an unsung hero. He started the '24 season listed as the #3 RB, behind Ray Davis, and later in the season was listed as co-#2. He consistently made incredibly athletic receptions, is a great route runner, and has great speed. His athleticism, paired with his incredible situational awareness has made him one of Allen's go-to guys for extending broken plays. And by all accounts, he's a great teammate, and a great guy. Very easy to be a fan of.

Dawkins Honorable mention: Ray Davis