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The weirdest part to me about the drought years, is that we made hires at the time that seemed like good ones. Tom Donahoe and Doug Whaley worked for the Steelers before coming over to Bills. Donahoe was there throughout the 90s as "Director of Football Operations" and was part of building very successful teams. Including going to the Super Bowl in 1995 and multiple championship game appearances. After he was let go by us, he became a Senior Advisor and then won a Super Bowl as the Senior Director of Player Personnel" with the Eagles in 2017. He made some good signings and draft picks with the Bills but somehow just couldn't figure it out as far as actually having a good team. Whaley was also part if the Steelers organization throughout the 2000's when they made and won 2 Super Bowls. Yet, comes here and is a huge failure. Buddy Nix was actually a scout for the us back in the 90s working under Butler and AJ Smith when we still built solid teams throughout the 90s. He followed Butler and Smith over to San Diego. He was the director of Player Personnel and then became assistant GM after Butler died. Him and Smith built solid teams there the entire decade. He comes to Buffalo and can't figure it out. It's mind blowing how ridiculous and baffling it all was Thank God for Beane and McDermott who had a sure plan and built it their way and have made it work

When I said some fans can’t handle the truth, I was referring mainly to Bishop. He has been mostly a disappointment and has underperformed his draft selection. Hairston, was not a highly regarded corner by scouting operations and we took in the 1st round. He was not considered a first rounder with his performance in college.

The removal of elections in Ukraine as long as the war continues?

Easier said than done. But I'm willing to listen to the details of your plan. More sanctions? Sanctions against they're trading partners? Something else?

Sandwich wasn't a homeless guy DC sandwich slinger ID’d as DOJ trial attorney, fired from position after hurling sub at fed agent https://nypost.com/2025/08/14/us-news/dc-sandwich-slinger-idd-as-doj-trial-attorney-fired-from-position-after-hurling-sub-at-fed-agent/ It's nice when swamp-rats screw themselves out of a job by being stupid.

Ouch…. That was a gut punch ….. so true

What is your opinion on Zelensky based on?

Wut? * Watching the earlier clip of St. Brown reminded me of the line from 'The Other Guys'.

I know this isn't the point of this thread, but: CJ Spiller was ahead of his time. He was also poorly used by the Bills. Put him in the 2025 NFL with its increased space and speed and college influence, and give him to a creative offensive mind...that boy would EAT. That said: Yeah. We've come a long way. From the Marv Levy nostalgia tour, to using the 9th pick on a "waterbug" and sleeping through the start of free agency, to the toxic dumpster fire that the Bills became under Russ Brandon and Doug Whaley. And who could forget the constant (and very real threats) of losing our team to another city? And now look at the Bills: one of the most respected and well run franchises in the National Football League, perennial division winners and Super Bowl contenders, and 12 months out from the opening of a brand new stadium that should keep the Bills in Buffalo for decades to come. What a long, strange trip its been.

Look at John Elway as the example for some hope. Lost three and then later won two. Elway and Josh are different players and era’s but both arguably the most athletically gifted in their time.

Is it really?

Then don't buy it.

One thing I will say is there have been comments on here about how Pegula's interactions were all staged - and I'm not so sure. I've heard Beane in multiple interviews talk about how Pegula loves to be involved n the process of player evaluation - especially in the draft - but a natural extension of that would be evaluating who makes the final roster. Beane made the following comments on 'Fitz an Whit' podcast earlier this year before the draft: I've been to mutiple TC practices over the years where Pegula was present, and it is common for him to be talking to Beane and others on the sideline as was shown in Hard Knocks. I think he is 'hands-on' in terms of wanting to understand and be present during player evaluations bc he likes the process (probably how most of us would be), but I don't think he tries to meddle in the actual final decisions. I don't think the shots they've had of him have been totally made-up.

Based on what? Your feelings?

Fair enough. Those years from 09-13 kinda all run together

That would be 1964 and 1965. The only championships in the Bills history. For me it doesn't count personally since I wasn't born yet but 64 and 65 have to be at the top of the list for the Bills and fans who were alive then.

Roundy wants everyone to drive Yugos. The criminals wouldn't even steal those.

Agreed! Thankfully we will never know. Maybe 30 years from now when Im dead they will do a retrospective show on Allen's multiple SuperBowl wins and Beane will say who he would have drafted if Allen was not on the board.

No In fact Harbaugh caught lightning in a bottle when Flacco had his great playoff run and turned it into a Super Bowl victory like you're supposed to do What is happening here is completely unprecedented. I'm not sure people are aware how truly unlikely some of these statistics are

Fighting tyranny with a regular #7 on wheat, Mike’s Way. Release Sandwich Man!

No one with a pulse is surprised.

We're going to be hearing more about Bill, Hillary and their "foundation."

Zelenskyy, Germany, France, Britain, Italy, Poland, Finland, the E.U. and NATO Coordinate Pressure Campaign Against President Trump None of the European leaders were invited to the Alaska summit, yet all of the European leaders want to tell President Trump what to do at the summit with President Vladimir Putin. Because, of course they do… EUROPE – […] The Europeans recognize that they can only do so much to influence a president who often veers off-script and likes nothing more than to declare a deal. But on Ukraine recently they have met with some success, for example, by persuading Trump to allow them to transfer U.S. weapons to Ukraine and purchase replacements for themselves. And in recent days, especially after a meeting with Vice President JD Vance in Britain over the weekend, they have found the U.S. administration receptive to some of their red lines. After that meeting, Vance, in a television interview, endorsed at least one European position — that the current line of contact and positioning of Ukrainian and Russian troops should be the starting point of any talks — rejecting a Russian demand that Ukraine first surrender its entire eastern Donbas area. Ahead of Wednesday’s call some Europeans expressed guarded optimism, especially with Trump seeming to lower expectations of securing a deal in Alaska. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/08/13/zelenskyy-germany-france-britain-italy-poland-finland-the-e-u-and-nato-coordinate-pressure-campaign-against-president-trump/

Haven't noticed much of a difference either at the grocery store or eating out. ($12 breakfast today) Beef is higher. Buy it if you want it, eat something else if you don't.