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Right in front of Buffalo Harbor in 38-42 feet of water with a firetiger stickbait run off a green dipsy diver. They love that thing. Its pretty much all Ive been using this summer.

Shenault did look good in the return game but the Bills cannot afford to keep him on as a returner only, and his history suggests he will never be a productive WR.

Another MAGA success story.

OK. Let’s pretend the Bills lose to KC again on a few key plays that players made obvious mistakes — Josh throws a pick six… James Cook fumbles the ball on the 3 yard line… Christian Benford gets beat one on one for a TD. Are those coaching mistakes or player mistakes? Do you fire the coach for them? The decision depends on context, imho.

Anyone have a site or link to snap counts for today? Just kinda curious

Where abouts? Worm harnesses?

Yea agree with all that. The coverage units were my last cut from the Good Night section... but overall they were solid. I wanted to mention Milano and Bosa but great as it was to see them play active in that first quarter they are established guys. If they can both recapture their best form though... then watch out. Davis was my las cut for bad night. Man he misses so many gaps. The difference between Cook's vision at the line and his is very significant indeed. Ty Johnson came in and immediately was peeling off 10 yard runs for fun. The gaps were they for Ray he just wasn't seeing them in time. Agree Shenault looked the better of the two but not decisively so. That battle rumbles on to week two.

Oh, I should probably mention that Ty Johnson is still the man.

I am 100% convinced that a majority of our fanbase would be more than content sticking it out with McD. Even if it meant the likelihood of ever getting to a SB being slim to none. That’s sad but true. When we made no effort to go after Ben Johnson, that validated this theory.

Fair assessment. I also thought Shenault quietly had a solid game as a WR. His hands on the 2 point conversion were solid. I think the ST coverage units also showed very well today. Lots of energy and some good sticks. Absolutely LOVED the frenzy Bosa and Milano showed. At RB, Davis didn't make anyone miss Cook less. But man, Little Gore is fun to watch with the ball in his hands.

I don't disagree with any of that TBH. I'd only add that Shenault looked like the best returner...making Shavers an even more painful cut.

“Here’s the pitch… and the season’s over”

Name checks out.

Nick Mullens in at qb for Duval

i thought it looked like tobacco at first glance but then settled on it being sunflower seeds

I really don't know who Henderson is and I'm struggling with it. Willing? I mean maybe. Effective? No. But it's preseason and I love Tre. 91 looked just fine to me.

Shavers replaces Mack Hollins on this year’s team

God, were spoiled. Maybe a 50-year playoff drought is needed to restore some humility.

It's pre-season football which means by no popular acclaim whatsoever it's time for the annual tradition like no other..... it's Gunner's Good Night / Bad Night as the New York Football Giants left Orchard Park victorious. By the way... did you know a new stadium is being built? Yea, right across the street apparently. Oh and there was some football happening too. Here is how it went down! Good Night for... Joe Andreessen - This time last year Buffalo Joe just felt like a nice story. Even coming into the spring I thought there was a chance it was a one year deal and he would be off the roster in 2025. But far from that he got the start here alongside Matt Milano in the absence of Terrel Bernard who has been nursing a hamstring injury through camp. Andreessen was typically active including a nice tackle for loss in the second quarter and was calling the defense. He looks pretty settled in as the backup MLB at this stage and the fairy tale looks like continuing into a second year. Mitch Trubisky - Their stat lines ended up being similar as Mike White rebounded to lead touchdown drives the last two times he took to the field. However, the eye test told you pretty clearly who looked more comfortable running the offense and who threw the more accurate balls. Add to that Trubsiky's mobility allows you to create more ways of generating offense in the worst case scenario where your backup has to play meaningful football. His grip on the backup job just tightened. Deone Walker - The 4th round rookie was not my favourite pick of the past draft and this was not a perfect debut. My concerns over his pad level and ability to bend remain and I think he gave up leverage a couple of times trying to play the run. But flashed in pass defense, getting a hand on one ball and being a constant disruptive force in the middle of the defensive line. I am not sure he is going to be a high snap count guy as a rookie but I can absolutely see him being used as an impactful situational player because he flashes those traits that are hard to buy at that size. Tyrell Shavers - Ultimately I still think Shavers' route to a spot on the 53 is narrow. But he has separated throughout camp into a category almost of his own where he is behind the top five guys but clearly ahead of the other receivers. His chances might depend on who wins the returner job, because if Laviska Shenault wins it then there is no chance they keep Shavers as a WR7. But if Shenault does not then them keeping a 6th receiver would appear to tilt towards Shavers making it after two years on the practice squad. I still suspect he is cut (and they try to sneak him onto the PS again) but this might be the toughest cut to make. Te'Cory Couch - Couch was a player that flashed last pre-season too but this was a really impressive display with two pass breakups, a big tackle in the run game when the Giants were backed up and another excellent coverage rep. I don't see a route to the 53 here for him but if he keeps making plays when he gets his opportunity then the chances of him earning a spot on an active roster elsewhere increases significantly. Bad Night for... 3rd down defense - The Giants were 9 for 19 on third down for 43% - which is exactly where the Bills were in 2024 percentage wise and that was good for 29th in the NFL. At times in the first half it felt even worse than that number suggests. This is a sustained issue now under Bobby Babich's coordinating and he better be feeling the heat to get it fixed. The Bills do not seem able to dictate in any way to the offense on 3rd down. Even when it is 3rd and long. Zach Davidson - Okay Jackson Hawes, Davidson's competition for TE3, had a bad drop as well but he has ways to make this team without being a big time receiving threat. Davidson doesn't and he had two brutal drops today. You could see his frustration on the field. That felt like a man who knew he was letting his chance pass him by. Landon Jackson - Let me start with this - Landon Jackson is never going to be a big time quick twitch, bendy edge rusher. That is not how he is going to win. But he looked very stiff and upright today and really struggled when his blockers got the first punch in within a rep. You'd want to see a little more fluidity through the hips and a little better use of the hands. The story at Arkansas was his inconsistency... the Bills have time to bring him along slowly... but it was an inauspicious beginning. Michael Hoecht - Ugh that was rough. Hoecht will miss the first six weeks of the regular season through a doping ban so you would have wanted to see him go full gas in pre-season. And to an extent he did, but in a really reckless way. He ran himself out of multiple plays, struggled to generate pressure on the Quarterback and left wide open escape lanes for dump offs, screens and QB run plays. The Bills are committed for three years so as soon as he is healthy he will be back in the fold, but he has some work to do. Guys who lose gap discipline and freelance in their rush plan don't tend to end up in Coach McDermott's good books. Dane Jackson - I think he probably faced an uphill battle to make the roster in any event but Jackson was outplayed by the likes of Dorian Strong and the aforementioned Te'Cory Couch let alone the starter. Wasn't just that he was beat for the long touchdown but he didn't quite seem the same fundamentally sound guy we remember from his first spell in Buffalo. I doubt this is the final good bye as I imagine sneaking him to one of the six practice squad spots saved for vets will be relatively achievable but he did not help his cause today. Flame away folks, there will be another of these next week!

Seems like a strange take considering the Bills averaged more points than the Bengals last year

You mean other than when Austin Johnson was intercepting them every other game?

Their Defense is fairly vanilla in preseason anyway, but s no smart adjustments in covering screens. Its not Mcd., its promoting Bobbie batshit . Either Mcd has to take the defense over and let Bobbie go or its going to be the same with everything on Josh's shoulders to score enough points.