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I wish we had Ben Johnson as our HC. I thought he'd be below average as a HC, not a leader of men. I was wrong. He's a very good coach and obviously knows offense and schemes.

I'm a UCLA alum too and think that Kelly was the best thing that happened to that program in the last decade. UCLA's absolute ceiling is never going to be higher than 10-3, with a more realistic ceiling being 9-4. 8-5 is a good season for that program. They don't have the money, they don't have the commitment, the athletic dept is a mess, they don't have fans who show up to games given the stadium location, and they have long struggled to recruit 4 and 5 star recruits. The academic expectations are another issue. They were competitive with Kelly and had a pretty impressive run game. Kelly focused on 3-star recruits who fit within his system, which in my view was a realistic approach. In his last three seasons, they went 8-4, 9-4, and 8-5, with the fifth loss in the final season a result of a crazy ending vs Pitt in a bowl game. They didn't lose that game because of Kelly. I feel confident in saying that that three-year run is probably going to be the best such run they have in the dozen years that follow after his departure. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6642637/2025/09/19/ucla-football-deshaun-foster-martin-jarmond/ "The biggest issue with UCLA football, according to more than a half-dozen sources The Athletic spoke to for this story, some of whom were granted anonymity in exchange for their candor, has been a lack of financial resources. The Bruins had never been USC when it came to money or commitment to football, and UCLA has piled up more than $200 million in athletic department debt in recent years. But that disparity — fractures of which showed throughout much of this century — became much more of a problem in 2021, once name, image and likeness arrived." ... “Looking at the Chip regime through clear eyes, it was a major rebuild that took too long, at first,” one of Kelly’s assistants told The Athletic. “Then, we really turned the corner and were a top-20 program over the last three years, which is all you really can ask for any non-blue blood.” But, the assistant continued, UCLA wanted more. The fans weren’t engaged — “Chip’s not the biggest fan engagement guy.” It became apparent UCLA folks were tired of Kelly, who didn’t replicate the success he’d had at Oregon before leaving for the NFL, and Kelly, program sources said, was tired of the entire dynamic, especially of [athletic director] Jarmond, who was hired two years after the coach arrived. “You’re trying to sell the players on getting a great education and we can develop you as a player, but we didn’t have any money to pay them, and we were losing out on players,” said one position coach from Kelly’s staff at UCLA.

That assumes you trust the organization to make changes, or at least make them effectively. I don't see Beane or McD going anywhere realistically. It wouldn't surprise me at all if we miss the playoffs, end up with a pick in the upper teens, and we take a will linebacker.

Who asked for this? @BillsFanNC @B-Man @leh-nerd skin-erd @Big Blitz - this is what you voted for, right?

That was late 90's. That actually proves your point that Elway was better when he allowed Shanahan to change how he played.

Correct. Go watch some of his games from 2018-2021. Current Josh has lost more than a step from the earlier version. It's become apparent that he's no longer quick enough to reliably escape from pressure.

Elway, in the end, was similar to Peyton Manning in that he simply no longer had that supreme arm talent at the end. Elway was helped with an RB by the name of Terrell Davis, who rushed for 1750 yards in 1997, for 2000 yards in 1998, and the Broncos ran the ball more than they threw it in those last two Super Bowls. Manning, in his last SB, was helped by a #1 defense while their offense was middle of the pack. The current Buffalo Bills have the right idea with the run game and now need to upgrade their passing attack with more innovative schemes. That power run game is supposed to help protect Allen and not throw him under the bus... 8 SACKS

Did you see the Cleveland browns punted from the 29 yard line when the score was 24-10 and the over/under was 36.5. So if they kicked the field goal they would have hit the over so they punted at the LV 29. Crazy work

And he has shown zero ability to adapt and adjust in-game.

No to Chip. Good college coach......not so good in the NFL

McClapper is hiring a few new D Secondary Coaches that SEE things like he does!

Hate to see anyone hurt... and maybe its me but the D seems to be more effective without Bernard.

Very fine people - both of them.

The funny thing is that the Browns were built like a very good NFC team. They were better than the Broncos. In particular, I think the 1987 Browns would have beaten Washington. They were a better team. That was 1997!

I think we've busted. I honestly don't think we'll be healthy enough, coached and prepared enough to beat the top level teams. But maybe because it seems improbable, the Bills will win it all. Who knows?

You will always have that one good post you put up a few hours back. Nobody can ever take that from you.

My thoughts are, what's better for Josh and the franchise? Lose badly now, miss the playoffs and make changes OR keep the status quo and limp into the playoffs and lose badly?

(Under the bridge downtown) Is where I drew some blood (Under the bridge downtown) I could not get enough (Under the bridge downtown) Forgot about my love (Under the bridge downtown) I gave my life away, yeah Yeah yeah Oh, no, no no no, yeah yeah Oh no, I said oh, yeah yeah Here I stay

The audacity

They did pull off a win against the strong Packers for a ring.

Any updates?

I remember a few years back the Lions got screwed on a similar play but they called the player down before completing the catch and therefore the TD did not count. Just consistently inconsistent

Sure, however it’s a torn labrum and it sucks. Don’t care who you are.

Oh I'm with you, I think it's much more likely we don't make the playoffs than we make a deep run. I was just trying to say this: I want us fans to be wrong, I want McD/Beane/Brady to be right and hold up the trophy and for me to eat crow. I'll happily do that.