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TJ Watt Speculation after Pickens trade (Nothing Official)
Jauronimo replied to SCBills's topic in The Stadium Wall
It would make a lot of sense if they hadn't traded for DK and spent all offseason courting Aaron Rodgers. Doing it now reeks of desperation. Its admitting that they have completely abandoned whatever the plan was 3 weeks ago. Their front office is a clown show if they're shopping TJ. -
Giants make a lot of sense. I expect Beane to reach out but wouldn't be surprised if Gabe to go somewhere where he'd get more targets.
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Hyatt to camp please if he's released
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I think you have to tier them (but I'll rank them inside each tier too): Tier A Shakir Palmer Samuel (when healthy) All "proven" WRs who put up respectable enough numbers and are known commodities. Outside of injury, you shouldn't get surprised here on what you get. Tier B Kincaid Coleman Moore All high round draft picks who show a lot of potential but haven't had the volume or opportunity to be "the guy". Lots of upside potential here but unrealized at this point in time. I like that the Bills have guys in this tier because one of them very well pop off and rocket to the top of tier A by the end of the season. Tier Knox Dawson Knox lives here. He's fine. Tier "WGR caller from Cheektowaga" KJ Hamler Laviska Shenault Jr. Jalen Virgil Tyrell Shavers As far as I'm concerned, for this upcoming season, these guys are only here for drunk retirees to call in to WGR from ~6-9:30 and blather about how we need to "give them a shot". Realistically, they should only be active on gameday if it's the preseason or something horrific has happened to the WR room.
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TJ Watt Speculation after Pickens trade (Nothing Official)
YattaOkasan replied to SCBills's topic in The Stadium Wall
would be super tough to do in a cap compliant way. Epenesa would have to go for Cap reasons anyway. Dawkins would have to be restructured and McGovern extended at a minimum. -
Am I suffering from some kind of bias when I remember Gabe this way (see below)? - Hard worker, good dude in the locker room, willing blocker. - Not on the same page as Josh, which suggests Gabe made bad decisions on choice routes. - Possesses neither great moves nor speed. When he got open deep, it was often because a DB made a mistake (sometimes because Josh was running around improvising, looking like he was about to get sacked). - Opposing DBs said Gabe was easy to cover because he ran a limited route tree. I guess there'd be no harm in bringing him back for the vet minimum. Competition is never a bad thing, but I wouldn't be any kind of excited.
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WR4 at the most 1 Shakir 2 Palmer WR3 Competition: Moore/Samuel/Coleman
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I could see Gabe going to the Jets. They're going to run a lot and Gabe still has those blocking skills. Their WR room outside of Wilson is horrible.
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Amending my previous post with input from Mitch Morse Mitch Morse @mithenmor60 · 30m Absolute tone setter in the locker room and on the field. PERFECT culture guy. Played hurt all last year, didn’t complain about it once… having a tough time wrapping my head around this one.
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TJ Watt Speculation after Pickens trade (Nothing Official)
SCBills replied to SCBills's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think it does, just not sure if they have the stomach for it. This draft was trash at QB, but early indications are that next year could be the opposite. Build up draft capital, finally accept a losing season and then your QB of the future that comes into a situation with a WR1 already in the building. That team is getting old in alot of places and, at some point, you can’t just keep running it back with QB retreads and compete for a Wild Card and inevitable beatdown at the hands of the Bills, Chiefs or Ravens in the Playoffs. -
I think Sal had good info this morning, Pittsburgh talked to Davis last year before he signed with Jax. also Brian daboll could swap Davis for Hyatt. both make a lot of sense
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TJ Watt Speculation after Pickens trade (Nothing Official)
dorquemada replied to SCBills's topic in The Stadium Wall
I'd rather have DK -
TJ Watt Speculation after Pickens trade (Nothing Official)
boyst replied to SCBills's topic in The Stadium Wall
Trading Pickens was probably the request of Rodgers. -
As a WR 4, that’s when he was at his best here, and even then, with his constant injuries, and miserable catch percentage, and getting intercepted with to much regularity…, ( because he wasn’t on the same page as his QB way to often) gotta “pass” on this,
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@BarleyNY I like the premise but need a bit more background. Is it target share; overall ability; what we think target share should be? Ill go with predicting target share using last years data as guide Shakir Kincaid Palmer Coleman Samuel Moore Knox I think Knox is pretty clearly the bottom and as you said Shakir pretty clearly the top. Kincaid was comfortably number 2 last year so have him retaining that. At 3 is where its super cloudy to me. Coleman was number 3 but I think Palmer takes all of Hollins targets and most of Coopers to be number 3 this year. People (@Kirby Jackson and @Nephilim17) who have Moore at number 3 are interesting to me. If Moore was so high up the list then why was he deprioritized this offseason? Also why is palmer, who they rushed to get a bigger contract, gonna get less targets (palmer seems a much higher priority)? So I have Samuel and Moore being very similar.
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TJ Watt Speculation after Pickens trade (Nothing Official)
Jauronimo replied to SCBills's topic in The Stadium Wall
Moving Watt means they're going for a full rebuild. The timing of a rebuild makes no sense considering they just signed DK and didn't draft a QB. -
So basically Davis will almost certainly play for the vet minimum this year. Houston owes him $11.5M guaranteed for 2025, but whatever his new team pays him Houston will be able to recoup from him because of offset language in the contract. So unless some team is paying him $12.5M or more which is obviously not happening, he has no incentive to play for more than the vet minimum. He's making the same money in 2025 either way. This makes me slightly more willing to bring him in if we want to keep 6 WRs and use Moore as our punt returner. Slightly.
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TJ Watt Speculation after Pickens trade (Nothing Official)
transient replied to SCBills's topic in The Stadium Wall
Trade them Bosa straight up... -
Interesting! Did he say why he thinks that?
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🤔... is this sarcasm or bad math? My detector appears to need recalibrating. His last 2 seasons in Buffalo, 40% of his targets being picked would be result in 35 INTs a year due to Gabe alone, which I can definitely appreciate if being said sarcastically ... I could believe it if the actual stat was 40% of the INTs that Allen threw during those seasons were targeting Gabe and were due to miscommunication.
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that little interaction with the fans was not a good look personally I would pass. I think the guys we have now are better than him... he should have sent half that signing bonus to josh to begin with.
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TJ Watt Speculation after Pickens trade (Nothing Official)
loyal2dagame replied to SCBills's topic in The Stadium Wall
It ain't happening here -
TJ Watt Speculation after Pickens trade (Nothing Official)
Warriorspikes51 replied to SCBills's topic in The Stadium Wall
1st + Epenesa. Do it now 😆 -
Lots of speculation coming from Steelers land about the future of TJ Watt, given the Pickens trade. I can’t imagine Rodgers would be thrilled going there at this point, and if they don’t get him, (not saying he solves anything anyway) what exactly are they doing right now? Would be ironic for an impact DE to come available and it’s not Crosby, Garrett or Hendrickson. And it happens after we go hard on DL in the Draft. I think I’d stay away from this hypothetical though. Not sure how long Watt has left as an elite rusher, he’ll want a new contract and we just invested so heavily on the DL that I don’t even know what that looks like? Epenesa and a pick(s) for Watt + a massive contract for a guy with a potentially limited shelf life? Eh.