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Actually I just watched the press conference and Beane said he is a football coach and I am a GM and we can’t have all the facts of what happened and it’s a legal issue. He seemingly said the opposite of what the truth ended up being.

Cleveland may as well put him on "The wall of fame" at this point

You know there are levels right? Mike Tyson sexually assaulted a woman. So what Mike Tyson did and what allegedly Hairston is accused of doing....they're the same right?

I dont recall that at all, I remember Mckelvin being this way, but my memory is not the best either

I mean if she waited four years until he signed his rookie contract to file the civil suit that's quite the commitment and patience.

Not the first time for CBS. Remember the fake Bush National Guard stuff that led to Dan Rather resigning?

This presupposes that if an accuser loses their case, that definitively means they lied. That isn't true at all. Sometimes the best thing the courts can decide is that they don't know what happened which means no one is held liable and everybody has to just move on. I think the reason that these discussions get so polarizing is because most people are unable to accept such an unsatisfactory conclusion and want somebody in the story to be the bad guy. The world of course doesn't work that way.

Yeah. You thought they messed up last off-season as well. And then the season before not having drafted Nakobe Dean to play MLB. IOW, let's wait to see how the draft picks and players acquired turn out.

I think his game translates better for the CFL which is where I think he ends up if he can let his ego not over rule such a move.

I asked a friend this question who is a Cop. He said its because it's incredibly hard to charge someone of sexual assault when there isn't penetration or specific bodily fluids on the accuser. Its word against word.

Hey, how were you able to input the information re being a veteran? As an existing subscriber, I didn't see any way to enter info re being a veteran, teacher, etc. Thanks!

Good question? Take a look at the Bills' 2017 roster and get back to me. LOL! Watt was passed-over by 27 teams. And again the Bills got Allen the following year so not even worth mentioning.

I think that police departments do better investigations than schools. Do ya remember what happened at PennState? I for one would not take a school's word for any criminal investigation, but hey;.....that's just me.

Oh sure I think anybody assuming anything about this case is nuts. It is a pure he said/she said from 4 years ago. But I am already seeing some takes online, including in this thread, about how Bills fans are hypocrites if we criticize Browns or Chiefs players, and I just want to be clear that every case should be looked at separately on its own merits.

Farking Gold Diggers. Anyone bringing forward a case like this and loses should have to pay the exact same amount they were asking for to the person they accused.

I’ve said my peace on it enough. beane completely blew free agency on the defensive side of the ball. Old,injured,declining, suspended players. the draft saved them and the free agents are going to be back ups at best and will not help this team get over the hump in anyway. just a lousy offseason before the draft which could also be not great if Hairston ends up in real trouble here and Deon walker is injured all year and/or plays poorly. just my opinion but the team has made repeated mistakes with personnel on defense.

Sexual assault isn't comparable? Ok

They lost their franchise QB and now they are completely out of the NFL. Makes sense. So coaching matters then huh? It's so funny how you're arguing coaching does and doesn't matter lol. This is hilarious. Its comical at this point.

That is not the function of a message board, it is to make bold uneducated and ignorant declatory comments as soon as possible before someone else does. Just like alleged "journalism" now.

He said I don't give a flying f*ck because it's a stupid punter.

Say what?

why wasn’t he charged?

I guess he can based off the change in the 2023 language. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/maxwell-hairston-sexual-assault-lawsuit-could-eventually-result-in-league-discipline

I don’t remember exactly but what did beane say about ariza? Did he get that one right?

You are compelled by the sheer number of cases with Watson (me too)….yet still no charges. This reinforces the difficulty of bringing such such cases to charge. Despite copious similar accusations of exactly the same MO, DA never charged. So the posters who still insist that no charge means the victim is always a lying money grabber are simply nuts