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They could only force things late against the Ravens because they softened up to coverage. On Thursday watching in real time I saw two plays where they definitely had deeper shots called and Josh had time aned eventually decided he didn't like them and came off it underneath to check downs. I haven't all22 reviewed those two plays yet, but I strongly suspect nobody was open. The one point you allude to that does slightly concern me is whether a bit of the gamer has been coached out of Josh in the sense that he is always thinking "safe option" until the game script dictates he doesn't. The thing that makes me think that is the Trubisky pass vs the Jets. He comes in cold, off the bench and throws an aggressive dime. I don't particularly have a stack of evidence to support that theory but that Trubisky play does make me wonder. Primarly though we don't have the ability at outside receiver. That to me remains this team's biggest limitation.

I’m glad he didn’t get a GOOD hand on it. Fish were knocking at the door!

Broncos/Chargers have my eye.

Enjoy the mini-bye week Ed & Matt. Then gitcherazz back on the field!

🤔 well, I have a passing gas problem..

Good. I was gonna suggest upgrading from AoL

Shavers too. Yeah, this is the game I saw. Others here must have been watching vhs tapes..

Wurlitzer

Was at a wedding. 1 reported dead several others injured.

If we didn’t use the timeouts it puts more pressure to move quicker. The way they were moving it didn’t look like they even had enough time to get to the endzone and settling for a FG would have been a bonus. Oddly enough the clock was stopped 5 times and they still barely got there. You can’t say McDs timeouts didn’t help them. We just missed a FG, we didn’t punt and had 3 long drives and were up 14-7, holding them to a FG would have been better and going in half the lead makes more sense. You’re getting the ball back and have a chance to go back up two scores. If you don’t stop them it is what it is, coming out forcing the ball downfield looking for points in a tie game is unlikely to happen with McD. Against the Ravens we were down two scores and chasing points. Big difference

First, thank you for your service. we had a color coded system on how important it was. Of course everybody down to the a new hire figured out within a few days how that worked. So much for the red confidential one

This might sound like I'm patronizing someone here but it's not what I'm trying to do. I was at the Miami game and what I couldn't understand is with Jack Jones and Douglas at corner how come we weren't going after them. I get it that Palmer and Coleman aren't everyone's cup of tea but they should be able to work those two CB's and especially if Miami goes single high to stop the running game. Truth is I think since we've gone to more of a take the profit type of passing game I think we just don't force things as much. I swear i saw open guys downfield at times. I think we could get the ball outside more if we needed to. I think we're not doing it because we don't need to. First throw at Coleman he probably has it but get's held so we get the yards from the PI penalty. They actually ran a slant to him and even with a lot of contact he made the catch. I just think at this point Allen's numbers are on point to be as good or better than last years (MVP numbers) so why would they change anything and force things outside? The Baltimore game is an example of having to force things outside and when they needed to they did. I'm hoping that the ability is there they're just putting it behind the "break in case of emergency" glass.

Josh Allen would be in a tier by himself if he had 6 rushing TDs, 22 passing TDs, and 1 INT going into Week 8.

From what I remember both were kind of a problem. Bills punted a fair amount but had a couple long drives and never cashed in on every turnover. Think they might of got 10 points off turnovers. Not their best showing. Despite the Ds turnovers they never forced a punt and must of gave up about 400 yards to the Ravens. They also gave up a 90 yard drive in the final 5 minutes that looked like a cake walk. And they got beat on the 2 pt conversion, lucky for them Ingram dropped the ball.

I understand it’s totally different circumstances from Karlos Williams (who ate himself out of the league) but after Williams’ rookie season I thought he might end up as an all time Bills’ great. Then, poof, he was done. Davis doesn’t look anywhere near as good as last year so I hope it’s just a sophomore slump.

I agree with this. But if we're sitting him again, do we use up our 3rd and final call up (before the Playoff exemption) of Zion Logue or do we save that and give Phillips a call up this week?

I’ve noticed you have replied to several of your own threads during your prolific Saturday night of TRUMP posting. It can be disappointing when we don’t get the attention we so desperately seek. Hang in there.

We out gained the Ravens I don't care if we went berserk with 4 minutes left after 60 minutes we had more yards

Most of us are long-term ***** because of Trump. Once enough people figure it out, I would not want to be in that clan.

Lots of good stuff in here. However, the section I emboldened and enlarged is really dissonant. "Cover zero" is not a way to "keep everything in front of you." AT ALL. So I agree that teams are throwing all kinds of aggressive defensive schemes at the Bills offense, including cover zero pressure packages that are the OPPOSITE, philosophically, of backing off and ensuring the offense operates underneath. Those 2-deep shells we started to see often a few years ago are still prevalent, but are by no means the primary way defenses play the Bills, and especially 6- and 7-man blitzes are not at all similar to those previous deep "shell" coverages designed to put a lid on deep passing attacks. Defenses are utilizing a variety of approaches, including ultra aggressive looks that leave one or zero deep zone defenders. The Bills/Allen have chosen thus far to NOT challenge these looks with passes over the top. I don't disagree that the Bills have some WRs who COULD get behind such aggressive defensive looks, to be fair. But for whatever reason, aggressive man coverage is effectively discouraging any on-time, deep/intermediate passing game.

It's also not the philosophy I would choose. But it starts as @Kirby Jackson has laid out with talent acquisition. Because to be the more expansive, downfield passing version of the Bills you are going to need more explosiveness outside. That isn't Mack Hollins, or Keon Coleman or even for all of his skills Khalil Shakir, or by drafting a pass catching tight end in round one like Dalton Kincaid. Even Josh Palmer I said when we signed him is like the mininum standard attempt at doing it. He was like acceptable baseline. With the current talent mix on this roster they are playing the right kind of offense and they are staying aggressive enough within that system that with Josh's skillset it is allowing them to score 30 per game. Which is no mean feat. But if I was building this roster I'd have put a higher priority on getting explosive pass catchers. I wanted to draft Christian Watson. I wanted to trade up for Jordan Addison. I wanted to trade up for Brian Thomas Jnr. What I did not want our offensive draft capital spent on was a tight end and a non-separating big body receiver. But that is what we got.

That’s been covered already. An idiotic proposal from an elected official. Similarly stupid to elected officials voting to put tampons in boys restrooms. How do you, as part of the LGBTQ2SIA+ community feel about that? politicians suck

The positive of Palmer here is erased by confirmation that Keon Coleman is still trying to find a way to separate from a lamppost.