Beerball Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 I think that Brady offense was still the most high-powered,'' Fewell said, referring to the Tom Brady-led 2007 Patriots, who put up 94 points in their two-game series against Buffalo. ``I would say that (the Saints) are two with the way these guys are playing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Buffalo Bills - 40 N.O. Saints - 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Buffalo Bills - 40 N.O. Saints - 31 I would be happy with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 PF's scheme does not fill me with confidence for this weekend. It's tailor made for Drew to light up the scoreboard. I think the Bills will make it competitive, more so than some of the pundits think, but I just can't see the Defense holding the Saints under 35 points this game. Maybe not even under 40. I'll happily eat my words though ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowtippur Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Aren't game plans supposed to be at least a little secretive? Is the DC supposed to come out and tell one of the best quarterbacks in the league, "This is what we will do to you Sunday"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Aren't game plans supposed to be at least a little secretive? Is the DC supposed to come out and tell one of the best quarterbacks in the league, "This is what we will do to you Sunday"? In today's game there's so much film, so much prep that there are very few surprises. There are certainly exceptions to this but overall, everyone knows what the other team likes to do and wants to do before the game starts. It comes down to execution and personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowtippur Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 In today's game there's so much film, so much prep that there are very few surprises. There are certainly exceptions to this but overall, everyone knows what the other team likes to do and wants to do before the game starts. It comes down to execution and personnel. I understand all that, it just seems strange to see our DC actually telling them a four man rush is all that will be necessary. Why not let them have some questions going in? It may not matter in the long run, but it doesn't seem like it could hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I understand all that, it just seems strange to see our DC actually telling them a four man rush is all that will be necessary. Why not let them have some questions going in? It may not matter in the long run, but it doesn't seem like it could hurt. No, you're right. I'm not disagreeing with you. It doesn't make much sense to me either even though the downside is probably minimal (even if it's a ruse and PF is planning on rushing 6 or 7 every play ... that would be sweet. Disasterous, but sweet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowtippur Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 No, you're right. I'm not disagreeing with you. It doesn't make much sense to me either even though the downside is probably minimal (even if it's a ruse and PF is planning on rushing 6 or 7 every play ... that would be sweet. Disasterous, but sweet). Agree. It might be fun to see for a while, but in the end could lead to really bad things. I do think if kept close we have a good chance this weekend though. This could be a huge confidence builder for these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Honestly the Bills need to score big if they are going to win the game at least 30 points (Probably more). Now what makes me fear the saints is that they lite up the Eagles who have a pretty good secondary and a decent pass rush. Now I think the Bills secondary is better but not by a huge margin. The Bills pass rush is a about as good as the Eagles (No Jim Johnson and they have some injuries) probably a little worse but not that big of a margin. I think the key to defensive success is similar to the Pats* just rush 4 and hope you get pressure because if you blitz he will make you pay (Although against the Saints you might have to blitz more with 5 or 6 guys). IF Schobel and CO (Hopefully Maybin will show up and bring some pressure as well) can get pressure without blitzing that much than we have a good chance of holding them under 24 points. The offense is going to need to show up and the D is going to need to at least limit what the Saints can do on offense with pass rush and good coverage. As far what I think the offense is going to need to do is run the no huddle BUT don't run it as a hurry up all the time take your time much like they did against the Pats* on that last TD drive. Give the D a breather once in a while and run a slower no huddle (Just once or twice during each half keep the tempo up for the most part just keep the D off the field for 5 minutes on a drive). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Just sit back in a Tampa-2 zone and wait for Brees to make mistakes. Sounds like a plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Just sit back in a Tampa-2 zone and wait for Brees to make mistakes. Sounds like a plan. to be clear, that's not what he said, and Beerball is quoting from my story. and i denote that Fewell said he's confident a four-man rush will be enough. and then i also note that the Bills haven't been conventional in attacking the quarterback this season. there was one interesting play against the Bucs near the Bills goal-line where Marcus Stroud actually dropped back and was near the goal line and tipped a pass away. the play didn't count because the Bucs were called for some kind of penalty. my guess, and this is only a guess, is that the Bills plan to continue to be exotic, something Brees noted in his conference call, crediting the Bills for being very good for disguising what they're doing. and Fewell didn't tip off what he was going to do exactly. in fact, he started out one answer by saying, "Here's what we're going to do ... " and then stopped short with a laugh, saying, something to the effect, "no, I'm not going to tell you what we're going to do." i don't think the Bills have the horses to keep up with the Saints this weekend, but if the wind blows and the rain falls, it might prove to be an equalizer. another thing i think to look out for is whether the Bills offense can play to gregg's ego and trick him up, or whether the "all-knowing one" has learned his lesson. that's my take. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 to be clear, that's not what he said, and Beerball is quoting from my story. and i denote that Fewell said he's confident a four-man rush will be enough. and then i also note that the Bills haven't been conventional in attacking the quarterback this season. there was one interesting play against the Bucs near the Bills goal-line where Marcus Stroud actually dropped back and was near the goal line and tipped a pass away. the play didn't count because the Bucs were called for some kind of penalty. my guess, and this is only a guess, is that the Bills plan to continue to be exotic, something Brees noted in his conference call, crediting the Bills for being very good for disguising what they're doing. and Fewell didn't tip off what he was going to do exactly. in fact, he started out one answer by saying, "Here's what we're going to do ... " and then stopped short with a laugh, saying, something to the effect, "no, I'm not going to tell you what we're going to do." i don't think the Bills have the horses to keep up with the Saints this weekend, but if the wind blows and the rain falls, it might prove to be an equalizer. another thing i think to look out for is whether the Bills offense can play to gregg's ego and trick him up, or whether the "all-knowing one" has learned his lesson. that's my take. jw I was kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I was kidding. Yeah? But you left yourself wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I just want to know how the betting line for over/under is at 53. Seems to me like this would be the lock of the year to get in on the over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I just want to know how the betting line for over/under is at 53. Seems to me like this would be the lock of the year to get in on the over. Possible weather probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Probable weather possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthGeorgiaBillsFan Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Look I'm not overly impressed with the Saints. Frankly I find it insulting to even compare them to the 2007 Patriots. I'm sure Fewell is more than happy to oblige the Saints offense worshiping that is going on so that when the Bills smack them down it just makes us look that much better. Seriously Wawrow I hope this is your mentality too because I find it hard to believe that a !@#$ could look at the Saints and not think we have at least a 50% chance of exposing them as non-contenders. How could anyone buy into the freaking Saints to the extent necessary to pick them over your own favorite team? I mean at least with the Patriots it used to be reasonable....but I think I'll make the Saints beat me before I accept that they are one of the elite contenders in the league. Wow they funky symboled the phrase <B><I><L><L><S> <I><N><S><I><D><E><R>??? unbelievable. Wawrow that funky symbol word was not any expletive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Look I'm not overly impressed with the Saints. Frankly I find it insulting to even compare them to the 2007 Patriots. I'm sure Fewell is more than happy to oblige the Saints offense worshiping that is going on so that when the Bills smack them down it just makes us look that much better. Seriously Wawrow I hope this is your mentality too because I find it hard to believe that a !@#$ could look at the Saints and not think we have at least a 50% chance of exposing them as non-contenders. How could anyone buy into the freaking Saints to the extent necessary to pick them over your own favorite team? I mean at least with the Patriots it used to be reasonable....but I think I'll make the Saints beat me before I accept that they are one of the elite contenders in the league. i'll take that bet this weekend. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basskik11 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I would be happy with this happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 PF's scheme does not fill me with confidence for this weekend. It's tailor made for Drew to light up the scoreboard. I think the Bills will make it competitive, more so than some of the pundits think, but I just can't see the Defense holding the Saints under 35 points this game. Maybe not even under 40. I'll happily eat my words though ... Our defense is tailor made to stop offenses like these. Brees may get a lot of yards, but he wont get lots of points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djcalvin79 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Aren't game plans supposed to be at least a little secretive? Is the DC supposed to come out and tell one of the best quarterbacks in the league, "This is what we will do to you Sunday"? Not unless you are Rex Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthGeorgiaBillsFan Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Our defense is tailor made to stop offenses like these. Brees may get a lot of yards, but he wont get lots of points. Exactly. Ahem. He won't get enough points to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Our defense is tailor made to stop offenses like these. Brees may get a lot of yards, but he wont get lots of points. Which offense like the Saints has the Bills defense stopped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I understand all that, it just seems strange to see our DC actually telling them a four man rush is all that will be necessary. Why not let them have some questions going in? It may not matter in the long run, but it doesn't seem like it could hurt. Maybe he is not telling the truth about the 4 man rush.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 Maybe he is not telling the truth about the 4 man rush.... that would be lying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthGeorgiaBillsFan Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Which offense like the Saints has the Bills defense stopped? How about the incredibly more dynamic and threatening Patriots offense? Saints don't scare me. Go sit on a rusty pineapple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Yeah? But you left yourself wide open. And jw fell into the elephant pit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 How about the incredibly more dynamic and threatening Patriots offense? Saints don't scare me. Go sit on a rusty pineapple. The Bills D stopped the Pats? This the same Pats offense you described as "on the decline"? Anyway, the Saints Offense is much better than the Pats. They can run and they obviously can pass---and score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slo_Bills Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Look I'm not overly impressed with the Saints. Frankly I find it insulting to even compare them to the 2007 Patriots. I'm sure Fewell is more than happy to oblige the Saints offense worshiping that is going on so that when the Bills smack them down it just makes us look that much better. Seriously Wawrow I hope this is your mentality too because I find it hard to believe that a !@#$ could look at the Saints and not think we have at least a 50% chance of exposing them as non-contenders. How could anyone buy into the freaking Saints to the extent necessary to pick them over your own favorite team? I mean at least with the Patriots it used to be reasonable....but I think I'll make the Saints beat me before I accept that they are one of the elite contenders in the league. Very well put I couldn't agree with you more GO FREAKIN BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 The Bills D stopped the Pats? This the same Pats offense you described as "on the decline"? Anyway, the Saints Offense is much better than the Pats. They can run and they obviously can pass---and score. The Bills D did stop the Pats. That game was won if it wasnt for a fluke fumble. If you think the Bills didnt stop the Pats based on the fact that they let them run down the field 80 yards with 5 minutes left then you are not thinking correctly. The Bills gameplanned for that perfectly. They gave them the yards they needed in return for 3 minutes off the clock. If its not for that fumble the Bills need a first down and the game is over for sure. Even if they run into a 3 and out they still punt the ball and make it a long distance for the Pats with no timeouts and needing a TD. IMO the Bills and the coaching staff(i cant believe im saying this) played that game perfectly and dictated to the Pats instead of the other way around. I tip my hat to Juron on this one even with that loss. Its not his fault McKelvin cant hold onto the ball. +1 on the Saints offense. But they are different. They are very similar to the Pats of 07. IMO they will be the highest powered offense after this year is over. Move over 07 Pats and passing TD record. Drew Brees is tearing down your house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 The Bills D did stop the Pats other than the last two drives when the game was on the line. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 i don't think the Bills have the horses to keep up with the Saints this weekend, but if the wind blows and the rain falls, it might prove to be an equalizer. another thing i think to look out for is whether the Bills offense can play to gregg's ego and trick him up, or whether the "all-knowing one" has learned his lesson.that's my take. jw That could very well prove interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manbeast Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Honestly the Bills need to score big if they are going to win the game at least 30 points (Probably more). Now what makes me fear the saints is that they lite up the Eagles who have a pretty good secondary and a decent pass rush. Now I think the Bills secondary is better but not by a huge margin. The Bills pass rush is a about as good as the Eagles (No Jim Johnson and they have some injuries) probably a little worse but not that big of a margin. I think the key to defensive success is similar to the Pats* just rush 4 and hope you get pressure because if you blitz he will make you pay (Although against the Saints you might have to blitz more with 5 or 6 guys). IF Schobel and CO (Hopefully Maybin will show up and bring some pressure as well) can get pressure without blitzing that much than we have a good chance of holding them under 24 points. The offense is going to need to show up and the D is going to need to at least limit what the Saints can do on offense with pass rush and good coverage. As far what I think the offense is going to need to do is run the no huddle BUT don't run it as a hurry up all the time take your time much like they did against the Pats* on that last TD drive. Give the D a breather once in a while and run a slower no huddle (Just once or twice during each half keep the tempo up for the most part just keep the D off the field for 5 minutes on a drive). They have a decent secondary and a good pass rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manbeast Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 that would be lying Guess he dosn't have high character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I understand all that, it just seems strange to see our DC actually telling them a four man rush is all that will be necessary. Why not let them have some questions going in? It may not matter in the long run, but it doesn't seem like it could hurt. Don't be fooled if past performance is of any value. Fewell blitzes like a MAD MAN!!! I don't recall the article but I believe we were one of the teams that blitzed the most in the NFL last year. I think we also ran a LOT of blitzes against Tampa Bay as well. What would TRULY be a surprise is if he relied primarily on only a 4 man rush. Fewell WILL blitz but for some reason I don't think we will do it as often as we usually do which is pretty often. In theory isn't our defense designed to thwart exactly this type of offense? The cover 2 is designed to prevent the big play and stop the run. Those are exactly NO's strengths. I actually have an odd concern in that the incredible speed of Reggie Bush could pose a problem for us. Not usually that high on the threat list with Brees, those WR and the other between the tackles RBs but watch out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 The Bills D stopped the Pats? This the same Pats offense you described as "on the decline"? Anyway, the Saints Offense is much better than the Pats. They can run and they obviously can pass---and score. most of their points have come from playing putrid offenses and turovers...Detroit, and a kevin Kolb 3 INT led Eagles Offense won't do much to help the score. We won't be turning the ball over, and they wont be able to run vs us. I'm also not afraid of Colston, McGee and Co. tend to do well vs slower big receivers. Last year Chargers Patriots and Broncos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 How could anyone buy into the freaking Saints to the extent necessary to pick them over your own favorite team? How could anyone "buy" that the Saints which have averaged over 40 points per game (albeit only 2 games so far) while the Bills have averaged 29 can win? Along with the fact that the Vegas line is Saints by 6. I'm not saying the Saints are a dead lock for this game, but it's not a big stretch that people think they just might win. And "pick them over your own favorite team"? Please, what does that have to do with who you think (which is the key word, not hope) will win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonprophet Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I actually have an odd concern in that the incredible speed of Reggie Bush could pose a problem for us. He doesn't run even half as fast on only one leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 The Bills D did stop the Pats. That game was won if it wasnt for a fluke fumble. If you think the Bills didnt stop the Pats based on the fact that they let them run down the field 80 yards with 5 minutes left then you are not thinking correctly. Yes, that's the part I was thinking about. Actually, they scored twice in the last 5 min. If you want me to believe that the "gameplan" was to "let" the pats march down the field and score--just to chew up 3 minutes of clock and give us the ball back....... Who lets a team that's down by 2 TDs back into a game just to burn some clock???? I can't believe you're saying this either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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