Johnny Hammersticks Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Well...we certainly have seen many free agent OLB's come to visit buffalo over the past few months, and none have garnered major interest (it would seem) sans the signing of the reserve linebacker, Pat Thomas. A lot of people on here favored signing Cato June and Freddie Keiaho; neither would have been all-pro's but seemed to fit the system well. We finally get excited about some decent talent when Pisa comes to town, but that seems to be fizzling out as well! What are Jauron and Fewell thinking? Are they happy with Ellison, Pat Thomas, Alvin Bowen.......or Nic Harris?? I need some clarity. Throw me a bone. Serenity now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 The right amount of talent with the right amount of motivation for the right amount of buck is what's going on imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 The right amount of talent with the right amount of motivation for the right least amount of buck is what's going on imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 The Will LB will be Kawika Mitchell....same spot he manned last year...The Sam LB is up in the air, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Well...we certainly have seen many free agent OLB's come to visit buffalo over the past few months, and none have garnered major interest (it would seem) sans the signing of the reserve linebacker, Pat Thomas. A lot of people on here favored signing Cato June and Freddie Keiaho; neither would have been all-pro's but seemed to fit the system well. We finally get excited about some decent talent when Pisa comes to town, but that seems to be fizzling out as well! What are Jauron and Fewell thinking? Are they happy with Ellison, Pat Thomas, Alvin Bowen.......or Nic Harris?? I need some clarity. Throw me a bone. Serenity now! I've never seen a team invite more players to town and not sign them. Two years ago Posluszny went down and the team had serious issues at LB with only Crowell being a proven vet. Last year, Crowell went down, and Ellison was forced to start. I suppose the more things change the more they remain the same. One injury to a starting LB and a guy like Pat Thomas, Alvin Bowen, or John DiGiorgio is a long term starter. Depth on a team that finds ways not to spend cap room will always be a challenge. The short term benefit of increasing the profit margin goes out the window when injuries and a lack of depth is revealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossage Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Ellison couldnt tackle his blow up male sex doll if it were degreased and propped upright. I was surprised that bryan scott didnt see action at linebacker more. Or anyone else, to be honest with you. We did play a lot of nickel, probably to keep ellison off the field. If we replaced our defensive ends with DTs on running downs and still ran a nickel I would be satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep2evans Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 If you add 2 or 3 more cliches to that OP, I might agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Tigre Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I've never seen a team invite more players to town and not sign them. Two years ago Posluszny went down and the team had serious issues at LB with only Crowell being a proven vet. Last year, Crowell went down, and Ellison was forced to start. I suppose the more things change the more they remain the same. One injury to a starting LB and a guy like Pat Thomas, Alvin Bowen, or John DiGiorgio is a long term starter. Depth on a team that finds ways not to spend cap room will always be a challenge. The short term benefit of increasing the profit margin goes out the window when injuries and a lack of depth is revealed. Very good point. I believe the lack of depth on this team hurts more than many realize. Our starting talent is not bad,maybe playoff caliber. But once injuries hit our fall is harder due to lack of depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devldog131 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 The Will LB will be Kawika Mitchell....same spot he manned last year...The Sam LB is up in the air, though Kawika Mitchell was not the WLB last year. He was listed as the SLB. And, I'm sure he will be the SLB again this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief D Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 It's not to late for Mitchell, Poz and Pisa...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'm pretty sure Bowen was drafted to be the SAM starter for years. I'm hoping to be pleasently surprized by his performance. That OBD hasn't addressed a 3-down replacement for Ellison implies to me that it will be done by committe and down/distance scenarios. Maybin recently stated they have plans for him to come after the QB from many different places and Digiorgio, Thomas, Harris and Ellison are all the same 'type' of player. IMO, the only thing that will blow the whole thing up is if Jauron and staff get canned at season's end and the new regime wants to go 4-3. Then we have nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHUK ny Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'm pretty sure Bowen was drafted to be the SAM starter for years. I'm hoping to be pleasently surprized by his performance. That OBD hasn't addressed a 3-down replacement for Ellison implies to me that it will be done by committe and down/distance scenarios. Maybin recently stated they have plans for him to come after the QB from many different places and Digiorgio, Thomas, Harris and Ellison are all the same 'type' of player. IMO, the only thing that will blow the whole thing up is if Jauron and staff get canned at season's end and the new regime wants to go 4-3. Then we have nobody. I was elated with the addition of Bowen, watching him in college next to Tyrone McKenzie, was sweet! I wanted him too and go figure he goes to New England (now out for the year) however he could progress to be the SAM. But as of now Kawika is working as the SAM as he did for a majority last year and very well too. Now not because he is a name, and i know he wants too much at the moment, but if kawika is manning the SAM and Derrick Brooks is a Career cover two WILL, then that would fit us. Not as an everydown player, but he can still produce and be a legit leader! You trickle in Nic Harris and Bowen and there is a great group as well as a great teacher. Who better to help our LB's with a cover 2 scheme than Brooks! I like Pisa too but he will probably end up in Philly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Kawika Mitchell was not the WLB last year. He was listed as the SLB. And, I'm sure he will be the SLB again this year. Mitchell may have been 'listed' as the SAM but Ellison played the position far more often than Mitchell did last season. May be one of the reasons Ellison had a drop off last year. He was playing out of position most of the time. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'm pretty sure Bowen was drafted to be the SAM starter for years. I'm hoping to be pleasently surprized by his performance. That OBD hasn't addressed a 3-down replacement for Ellison implies to me that it will be done by committe and down/distance scenarios. Maybin recently stated they have plans for him to come after the QB from many different places and Digiorgio, Thomas, Harris and Ellison are all the same 'type' of player. IMO, the only thing that will blow the whole thing up is if Jauron and staff get canned at season's end and the new regime wants to go 4-3. Then we have nobody. I think DiGiorgio ain't too bad an LB. Is he really that much worse than Poz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Mitchell may have been 'listed' as the SAM but Ellison played the position far more often than Mitchell did last season. May be one of the reasons Ellison had a drop off last year. He was playing out of position most of the time. GO BILLS!!! I'd love to see where Kawika was listed as the SAM myself...we went into camp with Crow at SAM and Ellison was his primary backup...every depth chart I've seen had Ellison there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'd love to see where Kawika was listed as the SAM myself...we went into camp with Crow at SAM and Ellison was his primary backup...every depth chart I've seen had Ellison there Yep. Kawika played WILL primarily in NY and it seems, rightfully so, that's where the Bills value him most. Losing Crowell really hurt IMO. Not that he's that good but Ellison is a fish out of water at SAM. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Well...we certainly have seen many free agent OLB's come to visit buffalo over the past few months, and none have garnered major interest (it would seem) sans the signing of the reserve linebacker, Pat Thomas. A lot of people on here favored signing Cato June and Freddie Keiaho; neither would have been all-pro's but seemed to fit the system well. We finally get excited about some decent talent when Pisa comes to town, but that seems to be fizzling out as well! What are Jauron and Fewell thinking? Are they happy with Ellison, Pat Thomas, Alvin Bowen.......or Nic Harris?? I need some clarity. Throw me a bone. Serenity now! I wondering if Buffalo may go after Derrick Brooks. They went after Jason Taylor hard, maybe that's why they aren't as aggressive with Pisa yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Last thing I saw, Pisa was down to two teams that would be good fits...us and Philly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'm pretty sure Bowen was drafted to be the SAM starter for years. I'm hoping to be pleasently surprized by his performance. That OBD hasn't addressed a 3-down replacement for Ellison implies to me that it will be done by committe and down/distance scenarios. Maybin recently stated they have plans for him to come after the QB from many different places and Digiorgio, Thomas, Harris and Ellison are all the same 'type' of player. IMO, the only thing that will blow the whole thing up is if Jauron and staff get canned at season's end and the new regime wants to go 4-3. Then we have nobody. Chandler will all due respect I am really uncomfortable with relying on Bowen. He has never started an NFL game. He was not a day one pick either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Last thing I saw, Pisa was down to two teams that would be good fits...us and Philly Philly has no interest anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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