I Wonder Where All The Russ Brandon And The FO Sucks

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

Where's the option for, "I have no idea what to think of Russ Brandon, because the Bills' group approach means I have no idea what his opinions and decisions have been?"

[Guest dog14787]

Where's the option for, "I have no idea what to think of Russ Brandon, because the Bills' group approach means I have no idea what his opinions and decisions have been?"

 

 

Good point.

[Steely Dan]

Where's the option for, "I have no idea what to think of Russ Brandon, because the Bills' group approach means I have no idea what his opinions and decisions have been?"

 

A lot of people think they do. That's part of the point to this thread. If the Bills do something bad it's all his fault if they do something good it's because he got lucky.

[Ramius]

Coming from a guy who's first point in rebuttal is to "attack the messenger" is too funny.

Oh, look! An army of straw-men as well.

And a failure at reading comprehension! The trifecta. It wasn't my laughable theory, it was what I heard some people discussing in an after the draft show on the radio. From a guy that actually knew what the Patriots and Ravens had hatched because he was there, btw.

 

"attack the messenger" usually uses personal insults. Notice how i didn't resort to calling names or anything, simply calling out your laughably ridiculous posts. And you claim my reading comprehension is bad.

 

Speaking of "an army of straw-men", lets look at your issues.

1. Langston Walker sucked on the crappy raiders, which means he's always going to suck. Nice analysis.

 

2. Russ Brandon is an idiot because the pats traded with the ravens. If the Bills wanted Oher that bad, they would have traded up. But then you could have bashed them for "wasting picks" and "reaching." So the Ravens thought the Bills were targeting Oher, and hoping he'd fall to 28. Last time i checked, the Ravens still picked before us. Please explain how the Ravens trading from 26 to 23 screwed the Bills, who picked at 28 (notice how 28 comes after 26), and "bewildered" Russ Brandon. Please also explain how you know he front office wanted Oher sooo bad and was so upset that they had to take Wood instead. You're reaching to bash the Bills for no reason. I thought the draft was all about "letting the draft come to you" and "not letting other teams picks affect yours."

Oh, thats right, when the pats* do it, its the way to draft, but when the Bills do it, Russ is an idiot.

 

3. Oh, so it was on the radio, meaning you are incapable of coming up with any thoughts of your own, besides parroting "Bills suck, Brandon sucks, we need a real GM." I'm guessing that you haven't given any credit to the numerous media outlets that have been praising the Bills draft, because it wouldn't fit your anti-front office crusade. Slamming the front office for each and every single decision made, good or bad, shows that you aren't really out to discuss anything, merely incessantly trash the bills, B word, and whine.

[timba]

I will remain skeptical of him until there are some on field results.

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

A lot of people think they do. That's part of the point to this thread. If the Bills do something bad it's all his fault if they do something good it's because he got lucky.

Still...there's no option for those among us who realize we have no idea what Brandon has said.

 

Maybe he was desperately fighting to pay Peters? Or maybe it was his idea to trade him?

Maybe he was the one pushing for Maybin? Or maybe he wanted Oher? Or Orakpo? Or Freeman? Or to move up for Crabtree?

Maybe he wanted to cut half the roster to sign Albert Haynesworth? Or maybe picking up mid-level free agents like Hangartner and Florence was his idea?

Maybe he was dead-set against bringing in Terrell Owens, and nearly resigned over it?

 

Point is, because its not one single guy making the calls for the Bills, its damn near impossible to evaluate any of the individuals involved.

[PromoTheRobot]

You can't paint Brandon with the last 9 years. Yes Modrak and Guy were here but Donahoe and Levy were the men in charge. Brandon gets the credit/blame for the last two years. It's still too early to judge him completely. So far I like what I see. Also keep in mind Ralph's influence. Perhaps Brandon's best skill is keeping Ralph from forcing an ill-conceived idea on the team.

 

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[Bill from NYC]

You can't paint Brandon with the last 9 years. Yes Modrak and Guy were here but Donahoe and Levy were the men in charge. Brandon gets the credit/blame for the last two years. It's still too early to judge him completely. So far I like what I see. Also keep in mind Ralph's influence. Perhaps Brandon's best skill is keeping Ralph from forcing an ill-conceived idea on the team.

 

PTR

 

What disturbs me Promo is that poster after poster said the exact same thing about Levy. Remember?

[billybob]

1. Maybin - more upside in the long run than Orakpo but more downside too- Orakpo in the immediate future is the more complete player- This was not a great draft class for DEs and weak overall, the best talent at 11 was probably Jenkins or one of the WRs but I would have hurt myself screaming obscenities if we had taken one of them.

 

1b. Woods- very safe pick- little chance of being an all-pro but even less chance of being a bust

 

2a. Byrd- to me this is the genius or moron pick- if this guy is an Ed Reed clone or at least a poor man's Ed Reed we should throw flowers at the feet of the collected FO, if Byrd is average or worse then pitchforks an torches should march and heads be collected at 1Bills drive- there was a lot of talent out there when the Bills made this pick so pretty good doesn't cut it.

 

2b. Levitra - another pretty safe pick

 

4. Shawn Nelson -a highly rated player at an area of need- I'd say a no brainer

 

5. Nick Harris- Marcus Freeman was available and generally rated higher and was a OLB in college not a projection obviously Nick Harris was rated higher on the Bills board- in a year we will see how good that board is

 

6 and 7 anything the Bills get here is a bonus.

 

Overall I say this draft depends on Maybin and Byrd if Maybin becomes Jason Taylor and Byrd becomes Ed Reed, then this will be a legendary draft, if Maybin is Eric flowers and Byrd nothing special, then you know pitchforks and torches!!!!

[Magox]

What disturbs me Promo is that poster after poster said the exact same thing about Levy. Remember?

Well, I guess that means Russ Brandon should pay for the sins of Donahoe and Levy.

 

 

I thought for sure that you would of been very happy with what the Bills did this offseason in adding Hangartner, Woods and Levitre in making a conscience effort to upgrade our OLine in the trenches, and that we also added the most explosive pass rusher in this year's draft and our most promising TE, in a very very long time.

 

The additions of T.O and Stroud, I thought were very important moves, also the schrewd nabbing of Buddy Nix, who probably is all ready paying huge dividends.

 

I mean, on the surface, doesn't it look like he is making some solid decisions Bill?

[BillsFan-4-Ever]

It seems the majority of Bills fan's are very happy with the draft now. A lot of people were saying that the Bills needed a better GM than they have and yet the vast majority are happy with the draft.

 

JMO

 

What's your opinion?

didn't see the option I'd select.

"I feel better about him now but I'm still convinced".

 

I'll judge the draft when I see who lines up in Spetember.

 

The obvious need for an O lineman, D lineman, TE were addressed. But that doesn't mean squatt.

[billsfreak]

A lot of people think they do. That's part of the point to this thread. If the Bills do something bad it's all his fault if they do something good it's because he got lucky.

Do we have a slight "Man Crush" going on here?

[Steely Dan]

Do we have a slight "Man Crush" going on here?

 

 

No, I was just pointing out the large population of bipolar people here. (I'm bipolar so it's not a mean spirited joke) They rave about Russ Brandon being a stupid pick for GM because he knows nothing about scouting and then the next day they're sing the praises of the Bills draft. They think everything is his fault when it goes bad and nothing is to his credit when things go well. The signing of TO and the trade for Stroud were his "just getting lucky" in a lot of people's minds. Likewise if the Bills made a Faders type draft it would've been all his fault. Just a point I wanted to make.

[Beerball]

They rave about Russ Brandon being a stupid pick for GM because he knows nothing about scouting and then the next day they're sing the praises of the Bills draft. They think everything is his fault when it goes bad and nothing is to his credit when things go well. The signing of TO and the trade for Stroud were his "just getting lucky" in a lot of people's minds. Likewise if the Bills made a Faders type draft it would've been all his fault. Just a point I wanted to make.

axually they would rant about him being a stupid pick and they would rave about the draft (unless they dint like the draft in which case they would rant and rant)

[Bill from NYC]

Well, I guess that means Russ Brandon should pay for the sins of Donahoe and Levy.

 

 

I thought for sure that you would of been very happy with what the Bills did this offseason in adding Hangartner, Woods and Levitre in making a conscience effort to upgrade our OLine in the trenches, and that we also added the most explosive pass rusher in this year's draft and our most promising TE, in a very very long time.

 

The additions of T.O and Stroud, I thought were very important moves, also the schrewd nabbing of Buddy Nix, who probably is all ready paying huge dividends.

 

I mean, on the surface, doesn't it look like he is making some solid decisions Bill?

 

Yes, but I can't claim to be happy about losing Peters, and it is hard to know who to blame.

[Magox]

Yes, but I can't claim to be happy about losing Peters, and it is hard to know who to blame.

I really hated losing Peters. But after further review, it looks as if he didn't want to play here. Look on the bright side, we were able to replace him with Woods and Nelson and another draft choice next year.

[Cynical]

Still...there's no option for those among us who realize we have no idea what Brandon has said.

 

Maybe he was desperately fighting to pay Peters? Or maybe it was his idea to trade him?

Maybe he was the one pushing for Maybin? Or maybe he wanted Oher? Or Orakpo? Or Freeman? Or to move up for Crabtree?

Maybe he wanted to cut half the roster to sign Albert Haynesworth? Or maybe picking up mid-level free agents like Hangartner and Florence was his idea?

Maybe he was dead-set against bringing in Terrell Owens, and nearly resigned over it?

 

Point is, because its not one single guy making the calls for the Bills, its damn near impossible to evaluate any of the individuals involved.

 

 

I love it when people refer to Brandon as the "GM". The Bills have no such designation on their team. Brandon is nothing more than the face of the "inner circle".

 

With that, I have no opinion of the guy, one way or the other.

[Kelly the Dog]

 

I love it when people refer to Brandon as the "GM". The Bills have no such designation on their team. Brandon is nothing more than the face of the "inner circle".

 

With that, I have no opinion of the guy, one way or the other.

 

On the official website of the Bills, on the "Front Office" page, after the name "Russ Brandon", it reads: "Chief Operating Officer/GM"

 

http://www.buffalobills.com/about-us/front-office.html

[Cynical]

On the official website of the Bills, on the "Front Office" page, after the name "Russ Brandon", it reads: "Chief Operating Officer/GM"

 

http://www.buffalobills.com/about-us/front-office.html

 

 

IIRC, when the Bills originally promoted Brandon, didn't they say there would be no designated GM?

[Kelly the Dog]

 

IIRC, when the Bills originally promoted Brandon, didn't they say there would be no designated GM?

 

I don't recall that. But in your defense, I don't consider him a real GM either with real GM powers. I'm not even sure he has the power to fire the coach (although I also doubt that the Bills would publicly admit that). The consensus approach of the Bills these days sounds good sometimes but to me, it stinks, and what we need is a GM that is a real GM who knows what he is doing with pro and college personnel, the cap, and how to hire/fire coaches. The problem is, there aren't that many around.

 

Like in the military, I think a pro franchise needs a hierarchy, and a general. The guy in charge hopefully does take a consensus approach on everything, until the final decision is made, by him. I really think it is dumb, for instance, to have a non-football guy Overdorf doing the negotiations. How is he supposed to know how much a player is worth? Sure, everyone is going to have their say in that but I don't trust Brandon to know because of his background, I really don't trust John Guy to know based on his record, I don't trust Dick Jauron to know based on how he approaches the game, and I surely don't trust Overdorf or Ralph to know. That's why, IMO, they overpay and underpay a lot more than they get it right.