darkman Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 I rest my case, concerning OT depth. Thank god, I was wondering who was going to backup Harris in the scrimmage with Cleveland. OK homers tell me what a great pick this was. He will transition..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 It's just stupid. It really is. If you're going to take a flyer on a kid in the 6th or 7th, great, go ahead. But to draft two similar, undersized players at an overstocked position with not a ton of upside is just plain dumb. It's impossible that both of them are making the roster, and it's highly likely neither of them will unless they cut Corner or Youboty, which would be even more dumb. If you like one of them a lot and want to develop him on the PS great. But we need projects at TE and OT and LB and DT and DE, too. Totally agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Gil Brandt just said that LaBeau is sick that we got Lankster, cause Pittsburgh wanted him in Rd 7. Interesting. Everyone said they really like what the Bills did this weekend, FWIW... Not the first time Brandt has heaped praise on the kid. Last week someone called Brandt from Pittsburg asking about Roscoe Parrish. Brandt response was: After more or less trashing Roscoe.... re his size. There is a kid from WV ... and I am fairly certain it was Lankster he was talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 It's just stupid. It really is. If you're going to take a flyer on a kid in the 6th or 7th, great, go ahead. But to draft two similar, undersized players at an overstocked position with not a ton of upside is just plain dumb. It's impossible that both of them are making the roster, and it's highly likely neither of them will unless they cut Corner or Youboty, which would be even more dumb. If you like one of them a lot and want to develop him on the PS great. But we need projects at TE and OT and LB and DT and DE, too. Nah, we can find another Pro Bowl OT on the street. Hey, it worked once, right? I'm all right with the first five picks, but there's room to argue that a monkey with a dartboard could have equaled the "haul" in Rounds 5-7. Good thing this team has plenty of depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Gil Brandt just said that LaBeau is sick that we got Lankster, cause Pittsburgh wanted him in Rd 7. Interesting. That's right Pittsburgh! You just sit there and take it like you did when we stole Ryan Denney from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 We have a history of cutting 7th round DBs. Remember Kennard Cox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 It's just stupid. It really is. If you're going to take a flyer on a kid in the 6th or 7th, great, go ahead. But to draft two similar, undersized players at an overstocked position with not a ton of upside is just plain dumb. It's impossible that both of them are making the roster, and it's highly likely neither of them will unless they cut Corner or Youboty, which would be even more dumb. If you like one of them a lot and want to develop him on the PS great. But we need projects at TE and OT and LB and DT and DE, too. Amen. You know what the most idiotic part of it is? There's a good chance that the Bills will draft a CB in R1 next year. McGee is 30 and his contract is almost up. They'll need a replacement. Joy. The Bills have now drafted 10 DBs in the last four drafts. It sure would be nice if they'd put half that much effort into some other positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Gil Brandt just said that LaBeau is sick that we got Lankster, cause Pittsburgh wanted him in Rd 7. Interesting. No big deal. Pittsburgh can just sign him when we have to cut him in August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Well in case McKelvin, McGee, Youbouty, Florence, Corner, Fox, Harris, and Byrd(S/CB) go down, we have some depth there. LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Amen. You know what the most idiotic part of it is? There's a good chance that the Bills will draft a CB in R1 next year. McGee is 30 and his contract is almost up. They'll need a replacement. Joy. The Bills have now drafted 10 DBs in the last four drafts. It sure would be nice if they'd put half that much effort into some other positions. The Bills take a corner in the first next year, then Im becoming a Steeler fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovey1961 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 So now that is time to start thinking about UDFAs who should the Bills target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Kiper is pimpin Drew Wiley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Id trade next years 7th round right now to take Willy and develop him, plus it prevents the Bills from drafting a CB in round 7 next year, a win-win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadstroke Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Im not bitching about the Wood pick or the Levitre pick. In fact I hope Wood starts at C, I like his nastiness and Hangartner is the back C/G. I hope Levitre develops into a solid pro. Jeez homers, all Im saying instead of drafting our 7th corner in round 6, maybe, just maybe, some depth at OT was a bigger priority. I would think that the staff would be the best judge of that. Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Id trade next years 7th round right now to take Willy and develop him, plus it prevents the Bills from drafting a CB in round 7 next year, a win-win. Our 7th is reserved for Michael Vick, sorry. We can give next years 1st for him and not waste it on a CB, if it makes you feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovey1961 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 trade next yrs 7 to KC for the last pick in the draft then pick Drew as Mr Irrelevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murra Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 trade next yrs 7 to KC for the last pick in the draft then pick Drew as Mr Irrelevant If we did that, the Lions would take him with the pick before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 The Bills take a corner in the first next year, then Im becoming a Steeler fan. Start buying your Steelers gear tomorrow, then. On second thought, maybe they wait until R2, but its doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 It's just stupid. It really is. If you're going to take a flyer on a kid in the 6th or 7th, great, go ahead. But to draft two similar, undersized players at an overstocked position with not a ton of upside is just plain dumb. It's impossible that both of them are making the roster, and it's highly likely neither of them will unless they cut Corner or Youboty, which would be even more dumb. If you like one of them a lot and want to develop him on the PS great. But we need projects at TE and OT and LB and DT and DE, too. I think DJ does this because he knows how hated he is among Bills fans. I don't think he'll be involved in another Bills draft. After all, he was involved with 4 in Chicago until the McCaskey's finally saw the light. Nah, we can find another Pro Bowl OT on the street. Hey, it worked once, right? I'm all right with the first five picks, but there's room to argue that a monkey with a dartboard could have equaled the "haul" in Rounds 5-7. Good thing this team has plenty of depth. I would trade a first for a GM with a record like Polian, Parcells, Newsome, or Jerry Reese to work as GM on this team. Regardless of this draft, there is a distinct need for someone with a personnel background to handle GM duties in Buffalo. Sadly, I think they'll find a reason to retain the management structure for the forseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 I would think that the staff would be the best judge of that. Huh? That explanation hasn't worked so well, the last nine years or so. Just sayin' ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Id like to trade back into the 7th and pick DT Ricky Jean Francios from LSU.... swap next years 7th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 I think DJ does this because he knows how hated he is among Bills fans. I don't think he'll be involved in another Bills draft. After all, he was involved with 4 in Chicago until the McCaskey's finally saw the light. I would trade a first for a GM with a record like Polian, Parcells, Newsome, or Jerry Reese to work as GM on this team. Regardless of this draft, there is a distinct need for someone with a personnel background to handle GM duties in Buffalo. Sadly, I think they'll find a reason to retain the management structure for the forseeable future. Now you've got me wondering ... Bears drafts 1999-2003: 2003 1 1 14 14 Michael Haynes DE Penn State 2 1 22 22 Rex Grossman QB Florida 3 2 3 35 Charles Tillman DB Louisiana-Lafayette 4 3 4 68 Lance Briggs LB Arizona 5 4 3 100 Todd Johnson DB Florida 6 4 19 116 Ian Scott DT Florida 7 5 4 139 Bobby Wade WR Arizona 8 5 8 143 Justin Gage WR Missouri 9 5 36 171 Tron Lafavor DT Florida 10 6 18 191 Joe Odom LB Purdue 11 6 33 206 Brock Forsey RB Boise State 12 7 47 261 Bryan Anderson G Pittsburgh 2002 1 1 29 29 Marc Colombo T Boston College 2 3 7 72 Roosevelt Williams DB Tuskegee 3 3 28 93 Terrence Metcalf G Mississippi 4 4 6 104 Alex Brown DE Florida 5 5 5 140 Bobby Gray DB Louisiana Tech 6 5 30 165 Bryan Knight LB Pittsburgh 7 6 27 199 Adrian Peterson RB Georgia Southern 8 6 31 203 Jamin Elliott WR Delaware 9 6 38 210 Bryan Fletcher TE UCLA 2001 1 1 8 8 David Terrell WR Michigan 2 2 7 38 Anthony Thomas RB Michigan 3 3 6 68 Mike Gandy G Notre Dame 4 4 8 103 Karon Riley DE Minnesota 5 5 7 138 Bernard Robertson T Tulane 6 7 8 208 John Capel WR Florida 2000 1 1 9 9 Brian Urlacher LB New Mexico 2 2 8 39 Mike Brown DB Nebraska 3 3 7 69 Dez White WR Georgia Tech 4 3 25 87 Dustin Lyman LB Wake Forest 5 4 31 125 Reggie Austin DB Wake Forest 6 6 4 170 Frank Murphy RB Kansas State 7 6 8 174 Paul Edinger K Michigan State 8 7 17 223 James Cotton LB Ohio State 9 7 48 254 Michael Green DB Northwestern State (LA) 1999 1 1 12 12 Cade McNown QB UCLA 2 2 17 48 Russell Davis DT North Carolina 3 3 5 66 Rex Tucker T Texas A&M 4 3 10 71 D'Wayne Bates WR Northwestern 5 3 17 78 Marty Booker WR N.E. Louisiana 6 4 11 106 Warrick Holdman LB Texas A&M 7 4 16 111 Rosevelt Colvin DE Purdue 8 5 10 143 Jerry Wisne G Notre Dame 9 5 11 144 Khari Samuel LB Massachusetts 10 5 14 147 Jerry Azumah DB New Hampshire 11 6 15 184 Rashard Cook DB USC 12 7 15 221 Sulecio Sanford WR Middle Tennessee State 13 7 47 253 James Finn RB Pennsylvania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Start buying your Steelers gear tomorrow, then. On second thought, maybe they wait until R2, but its doubtful. God I hope not. Im a transplanted WNYer living in Pennsylvania in the heart of Steeler country. Its hard taking all their trash talk all the time. Im a die-hard Bills fan. But it doesnt mean I wont criticize when warranted. Its gets old hearing "your Bills suck". Its frustrating when you compare these 2 organizations. They draft a QB is Roethlisburger we get JP, they draft a S its Polamaulu we get Whitner. They have consistency in coaching. They always hit in LBs in the 2nd and 3rd rounds and turned Harrison into NFL defensive player of the year. But hey all I want is one Bills superbowl Win before I die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 So now that is time to start thinking about UDFAs who should the Bills target? I will tell you when the draft is actually over there are still 20 picks to go. There are compensatory picks when the round is finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 The FO just registered a patent on the 11 DB defensive scheme and the 10 DB offensive scheme as well as the DB ST scheme. Were gonna have them kicking, passing, punting and blocking. Jauron will be an evil genius and out shine bellyfat and the cheaters yet. I hear they are hiring the globe trotters coach to learn new trick plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovey1961 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 is this Wendy Nix any relation to Buddy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Big Man Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 I want to go on record as saying this draft was uneventful and mediocre at best. Maybins only hope is to move him to OLB and then he won't be a total bust. All the other picks were bargain choices to save money , cause after all a cheaper team is easier to sell. The only hopeful prospect is TE Nelson. We passed on high quality players for players who were happy to be chosen so early. It is obvious by drafting all the DB's, that Dicky J is still going with the Tampa Two defense. Hey Dick lighter and faster doesn't equal effective. Before all you DBM haters jump my shizzle, I just want to remind that I called JP Losman a bust day one and I was right. I also said even after the 5-1 start last year that we would end up .500 or worse and again, I was right. Don't get me wrong ...I am tired of being right, I want this team to prove me wrong, but they won't. This draft was a bust and a waste of viewing time for me ...our scouts obviously don't know talent. Or their hands are tied by a miserly owner who doesn't want to spend good money for good players. 7-9 here we come....again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovey1961 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 scratch off Ricky Jean Francios was just taken by the 49ers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Now you've got me wondering ... Bears drafts 1999-2003: 2003 1 1 14 14 Michael Haynes DE Penn State 2 1 22 22 Rex Grossman QB Florida 3 2 3 35 Charles Tillman DB Louisiana-Lafayette 4 3 4 68 Lance Briggs LB Arizona 5 4 3 100 Todd Johnson DB Florida 6 4 19 116 Ian Scott DT Florida 7 5 4 139 Bobby Wade WR Arizona 8 5 8 143 Justin Gage WR Missouri 9 5 36 171 Tron Lafavor DT Florida 10 6 18 191 Joe Odom LB Purdue 11 6 33 206 Brock Forsey RB Boise State 12 7 47 261 Bryan Anderson G Pittsburgh 2002 1 1 29 29 Marc Colombo T Boston College 2 3 7 72 Roosevelt Williams DB Tuskegee 3 3 28 93 Terrence Metcalf G Mississippi 4 4 6 104 Alex Brown DE Florida 5 5 5 140 Bobby Gray DB Louisiana Tech 6 5 30 165 Bryan Knight LB Pittsburgh 7 6 27 199 Adrian Peterson RB Georgia Southern 8 6 31 203 Jamin Elliott WR Delaware 9 6 38 210 Bryan Fletcher TE UCLA 2001 1 1 8 8 David Terrell WR Michigan 2 2 7 38 Anthony Thomas RB Michigan 3 3 6 68 Mike Gandy G Notre Dame 4 4 8 103 Karon Riley DE Minnesota 5 5 7 138 Bernard Robertson T Tulane 6 7 8 208 John Capel WR Florida 2000 1 1 9 9 Brian Urlacher LB New Mexico 2 2 8 39 Mike Brown DB Nebraska 3 3 7 69 Dez White WR Georgia Tech 4 3 25 87 Dustin Lyman LB Wake Forest 5 4 31 125 Reggie Austin DB Wake Forest 6 6 4 170 Frank Murphy RB Kansas State 7 6 8 174 Paul Edinger K Michigan State 8 7 17 223 James Cotton LB Ohio State 9 7 48 254 Michael Green DB Northwestern State (LA) 1999 1 1 12 12 Cade McNown QB UCLA 2 2 17 48 Russell Davis DT North Carolina 3 3 5 66 Rex Tucker T Texas A&M 4 3 10 71 D'Wayne Bates WR Northwestern 5 3 17 78 Marty Booker WR N.E. Louisiana 6 4 11 106 Warrick Holdman LB Texas A&M 7 4 16 111 Rosevelt Colvin DE Purdue 8 5 10 143 Jerry Wisne G Notre Dame 9 5 11 144 Khari Samuel LB Massachusetts 10 5 14 147 Jerry Azumah DB New Hampshire 11 6 15 184 Rashard Cook DB USC 12 7 15 221 Sulecio Sanford WR Middle Tennessee State 13 7 47 253 James Finn RB Pennsylvania By my count that's 8 DBs taken in 5 years. That's outrageous! It's a wonder he wasn't run out of the League for such hubris. IMHO, the second most egregious sin he committed in most Bills fans eyes - is that he replaced Dave Wannstedt as Bears HC - which ended a particularly delicious schadenfreude. Of course, the first most unforgivable sin is his woeful record as HC of The Bills - followed quickly by sin 1-A - his record against the AFCE. Tradition... Tradition! Tradition. Tradition!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 I missed most of the fun today, but my younger bro said in his opinion out of all the teams in the NFL we had one of the best drafts out of everyone. I had my heart set on Pettigrew or Coffman, but this Shawn Nelson fella sounds promising at TE, especially if he can beef up a little. He was able to produce good numbers even though he was double teamed most of the time. I'm surprised at all the CB's again though, DJ's play toys I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Big Man Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 God I hope not. Im a transplanted WNYer living in Pennsylvania in the heart of Steeler country. Its hard taking all their trash talk all the time. Im a die-hard Bills fan. But it doesnt mean I wont criticize when warranted. Its gets old hearing "your Bills suck". Its frustrating when you compare these 2 organizations. They draft a QB is Roethlisburger we get JP, they draft a S its Polamaulu we get Whitner. They have consistency in coaching. They always hit in LBs in the 2nd and 3rd rounds and turned Harrison into NFL defensive player of the year. But hey all I want is one Bills superbowl Win before I die. The difference is in Pitt you have an owner who wants to win SuperBowls. In Buff, you have an owner who will do just enough to look like he is doing something...just enough to get our money. He is the labor faker of NFL owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 By my count that's 8 DBs taken in 5 years. That's outrageous! It's a wonder he wasn't run out of the League for such hubris. IMHO, the second most egregious sin he committed in most Bills fans eyes - is that he replaced Dave Wannstedt as Bears HC - which ended a particularly delicious schadenfreude. Of course, the first most unforgivable sin is his woeful record as HC of The Bills - followed quickly by sin 1-A - his record against the AFCE. Tradition... Tradition! Tradition. Tradition!!! I counted nine? Either way, nothing to forecast the run on DBs by DJ since he got to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 The difference is in Pitt you have an owner who wants to win SuperBowls. In Buff, you have an owner who will do just enough to look like he is doing something...just enough to get our money. He is the labor faker of NFL owners. Yeah the Rooneys are a class act. They keep the core Players--Hampton, Polamaulu, Hines Ward, gave Ben the money, etc. They had 3 coaches in 40 years. This one silver lining this upcoming year is knowing Jauron will be gone. If I was Wilson I would offer Cowher, anything and i do mean anything, GM or partial ownership, whatever it takes to become the Bills next coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Big Man Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Yeah the Rooneys are a class act. They keep the core Players--Hampton, Polamaulu, Hines Ward, gave Ben the money, etc. They had 3 coaches in 40 years. This one silver lining this upcoming year is knowing Jauron will be gone. If I was Wilson I would offer Cowher, anything and i do mean anything, GM or partial ownership, whatever it takes to become the Bills next coach. Yeah, I wish you were Wilson also ..but you are not. Wilson is Wilson and will do nothing accept give Dicky J an extension, assuming Ralph is still alive. If he dies then a new, quality coach goes with the team to Toronto and they then become the good team they once were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 I will tell you when the draft is actually over there are still 20 picks to go. There are compensatory picks when the round is finished. Here goes UDFA Travis McCall OT/TE - Do a Jason Peters with him Rylan Reed OT/TE - same as above Agustus Parrish OT Kyle Link Valdez QB Hunter cantwell QB Drew Willie or Chase Holbrook LB Corey Smith Robert Francois Ivy Monty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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