DrDawkinstein Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 is Marv just about down clearing out any less-than-savvy characters left from the TD era? now dont get me wrong, i dont think there were many character issues with Nate and Takeo really. but Nate was obviously looking out for himself before any team, and Takeo was a TD acquire who ran into some bad luck. but after the way Cinn improved after he left, and the track we are on, doesnt it start to look like bad luck FOLLOWS him? all this being done now, Takeo being the last of the expunging, it doesnt seem like there is anyone left that we would want to get rid of for any reason. does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 is Marv just about down clearing out any less-than-savvy characters left from the TD era? now dont get me wrong, i dont think there were many character issues with Nate and Takeo really. but Nate was obviously looking out for himself before any team, and Takeo was a TD acquire who ran into some bad luck. but after the way Cinn improved after he left, and the track we are on, doesnt it start to look like bad luck FOLLOWS him? all this being done now, Takeo being the last of the expunging, it doesnt seem like there is anyone left that we would want to get rid of for any reason. does it? I've been saying it for years, that Rian Lindell is nothing but trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 I've been saying it for years, that Rian Lindell is nothing but trouble. lol, thats sorta what im getting at. there is no one left to run out of town next... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 I'd like to improve DT Tim Andersen's roster spot. He's a Donahoe boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 I'd like to improve DT Tim Andersen's roster spot. He's a Donahoe boy. true, but he has no character issues, and no injuries, and doesnt lack effort. he just lacks talent. so if they want to bring him in and let him fight for a roster spot, then so be it. i wish they would being someone in that could beat him out for that spot, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jri111 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 is Marv just about down clearing out any less-than-savvy characters left from the TD era? now dont get me wrong, i dont think there were many character issues with Nate and Takeo really. but Nate was obviously looking out for himself before any team, and Takeo was a TD acquire who ran into some bad luck. but after the way Cinn improved after he left, and the track we are on, doesnt it start to look like bad luck FOLLOWS him? all this being done now, Takeo being the last of the expunging, it doesnt seem like there is anyone left that we would want to get rid of for any reason. does it? agreed! With no "older/senior" players left and no siginficant free agents coming up next season, I think the turn over on the roster is pretty much complete for a few years. The jury is still out on '07, it all hinges on the draft now and if we can get some immediate impact guys... but '08 is looking better and better. WE have a VERY young team and these moves just make us younger and younger. If we have a draft this year like the one we had last year then we'll be in good shape.... imagine two offseasons without any real significant subtractions and a boat load of new draft picks (we already have 8 picks this year - 4 in the top 100 and 8 next year, with 4 more likley in the top 100 again). I've posted this already but here's a list of '07 free agents: Most of these guys wont even make the team or are pretty insignificant/replaceable if they do... http://www.billszone.com/mtlog/archives/20...ry_cap_page.php (so if they're wrong i'm wrong) Chris Denney (WR) Sam Aikin (WR) Brad Cieslak (TE) Matt Miller (TE) Ryan Newfield (TE) Jason Whittle (OL) Anthony Hargrove (DE) Eric Powell (DE) Jason Jefferson (DT) Tim Anderson (DT) Josh Stamer (LB) Mario Haggen (LB) Roy Manning (LB) Jim Leonhard (S) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Chris Denney (WR) Sam Aikin (WR) Brad Cieslak (TE) Matt Miller (TE) Ryan Newfield (TE) Jason Whittle (OL) Anthony Hargrove (DE) Eric Powell (DE) Jason Jefferson (DT) Tim Anderson (DT) Josh Stamer (LB) Mario Haggen (LB) Roy Manning (LB) Jim Leonhard (S) Wow!---Take Hargrove off it and over half of that list could be training camp cuts from this year. However, remember that a lot of next years cap room will be needed for extensions for Evans and Losman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 Wow!---Take Hargrove off it and over half of that list could be training camp cuts from this year. However, remember that a lot of next years cap room will be needed for extensions for Evans and Losman. exactly why we are saving money this year with a "cash to cap" based plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jri111 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Wow!---Take Hargrove off it and over half of that list could be training camp cuts from this year. However, remember that a lot of next years cap room will be needed for extensions for Evans and Losman. Very true, but this is still very good. Next year we don't have to worry about re-singing any of our own guys (more or less) and just work on extending some of the "key" players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Don't forget that Fletcher also lobbied hard for Holcomb to start as late as beginning of last season. I think Clements was a much more team player than people credit him for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Don't forget that Fletcher also lobbied hard for Holcomb to start as late as beginning of last season. I think Clements was a much more team player than people credit him for. Do you have any support for that claim? Perhaps we have a different standard for what constitutes "lobbying hard". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 If we don't cut Stamer soon, we're doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Thats also a lot of talent we lost. I don't think starting Coy Wire & Ellison is gonna cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Don't forget that Fletcher also lobbied hard for Holcomb to start as late as beginning of last season. I think Clements was a much more team player than people credit him for. All I can say to all the "London Lovers" is look where we ended up in run defense the past two seasons. Changes had to be made. I don't think anyone on this board would have been happy if we gave London the contract that Washington did. Leadership is great if it translates into wins on the field. Enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 All I can say to all the "London Lovers" is look where we ended up in run defense the past two seasons. Changes had to be made. I don't think anyone on this board would have been happy if we gave London the contract that Washington did. Leadership is great if it translates into wins on the field. Enough said. In my view, the problem with the run defense was the guys up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 In my view, the problem with the run defense was the guys up front. Me, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 In my view, the problem with the run defense was the guys up front. Thats true too, but the MLB is a major part of the run defence in a Cover 2 defence. He is supposed to be up near the LOS making the hits after the DT's try to make the plays in the backfield. Fletcher wasn't cutting it. Maybe it was due to the DT's not helping, but he obviously showed the guys in charge that he was not the answer, so he was allowed to walk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 true, but he has no character issues, and no injuries, and doesnt lack effort. he just lacks talent. so if they want to bring him in and let him fight for a roster spot, then so be it. i wish they would being someone in that could beat him out for that spot, too. TA apparently absolutely hates the city of Buffalo, which is a pretty serious character flaw, so ship him out of here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Chris Denney (WR) Sam Aikin (WR) Brad Cieslak (TE) Matt Miller (TE) Ryan Newfield (TE) Jason Whittle (OL) Anthony Hargrove (DE) Eric Powell (DE) Jason Jefferson (DT) Tim Anderson (DT) Josh Stamer (LB) Mario Haggen (LB) Roy Manning (LB) Jim Leonhard (S) of this list id take aiken (special teams) hargrove and leonard for depth other than that 08 looks like a fun year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 welp, considering the news just broke that Holcomb is involved in the Eagles trade as well, i guess HE is the very last TD Guy to get the axe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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