Tipster19 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 If the Patriots are going to use their franchise tag on anyone, speculation has them tagging either Asante Samuel or Graham. If they don't use it on Graham, I think he would make a great addition to our current roster. Any input on what our administration's opinion is on Everett? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Stick a fork in Everett, he's done. Shame too, I was stoked when we drafted him. So much potential but the knee injury was a career killer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Stick a fork in Everett, he's done. Shame too, I was stoked when we drafted him. So much potential but the knee injury was a career killer Agreed. I'm fairly certain he's fourth on the depth chart at this point. Without some kind of unexpectedly outstanding preseason, I don't see him making next year's roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cieslak86 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Everett is gone unless he makes big strides throughout this offseason, which is still a possibility. He was basically a rookie last year, and he was a JUCO transfer to Miami, so he came into the NFL very unpolished. Jauron often mentioned something like this when asked why he didnt play much last year. I don't really like the idea of Daniel Graham. He was more of a blocking tight end in New England, while Ben Watson was more of a receiving threat. He kind of seems like another Robert Royal, maybe the Bills would be better off drafting a tight end on the 2nd day of the draft who can catch instead. A guy a lot of people like is Ben Patrick from Delaware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I'm pretty happy with the job Royal did, especially in the second half of the season. I think were it not for the play against Tennessee, this wouldn't be an issue right now. A fourth TD would've put him solidly in the top half of the league - and that for a team that didn't really throw too many TD passes. Daniel Graham had one fewer TD catch and four more yards (in four fewer games), so I don't see him as a huge improvement. I'd rather upgrade the second receier position, or fid someone who can catch passes out of the backfield - two areas where we were both poorer compared to the league than in TE production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
envirojeff Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 If the Patriots are going to use their franchise tag on anyone, speculation has them tagging either Asante Samuel or Graham. If they don't use it on Graham, I think he would make a great addition to our current roster. Any input on what our administration's opinion is on Everett? I don't quite know how you expect to see Everett prove himself (or not) before the draft? Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I don't know if it was his knee so much as he seemed to do something stupid the few times he got a chance to be on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Shame too, I was stoked when we drafted him. So much potential but the knee injury was a career killer I too was stoked, but I wouldn't put his current situation on his knee. He's far enough removed from the injury and still nothin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I'm thinking we stick with Royal and spend the free agent money on bigger areas of need. I'm assuming we draft a couple or three linemen with our draft picks. I think I'd be looking for a CB (if clements goes) a WR or a MLB (certainly if Fletcher goes!). TE can wait until we have someone rise to the top in the draft. I don't think anyone is in the pool this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Actually, with more two TE sets becoming more popular, Graham would be a great move. Not only is he a great blocking TE, cielslak86 (are you his wife?), he IS a good reciever too, better than Royal, but not one of the rare freaks like Tony G, Gates, and Vernon Davis (those guys are RARE). We would have two of the best blocking TE's in the game ( how's that for unexpected Oline improvement ) while both being legit pass catching threats. I think it would really balance out our offense. Nobodys saying we don't have other needs tennesseeboy ( and nobody besides me and of course BillInNYC are more on the same page as far as linemen go ), but count me in for going after Daniel Graham. We can hopefully get a guard in free agency and go DT, DE, and another guard in the draft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 A guy a lot of people like is Ben Patrick from Delaware. What is with the first name Ben as related to pass catching TEs ? Coates, Watson and now Patrick ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I would love to see us pick up Daniel Graham. As for being more of a blocking TE- I strongly disagree in. He was misused in the Pats offense IMO(along with Watson). I remember reading Graham accounted for something like 60% of the offense when he was at Colorado. Graham would be a tremendous pickup for us IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Screw this year, I want this guy in next years draft............... Top Tight End in 2008 Draft or I REALLY want this guy in 2009..... Top Tight End in 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Screw this year, I want this guy in next years draft............... Top Tight End in 2008 Draft Do you think there's a chance he falls to 32nd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrooter Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 I feel the biggest need at this point is a stud guard, but chossing a guard at 12 seems kind of high to me. I like the guy from miami for some reason the name escapes me, i metioned this about a month ago and got negative response, if we could sew up alot of our oline problems and defensive holes via free agency i wouldn't even mind trading down to fifteen or later and drafting the kid, i think he's going to be a good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Is there a guard from Miami even draftable? Actually I don't think you're even in the correct state. The best guards are Blaylock from Texas, Grubbs from Auburn, and Levi Brown from Penn St. if he doesn't play RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdelma Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Brad cieslak Is the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cieslak86 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Brad cieslak Is the answer Hell ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Brad cieslak Is the answer Lonnie Johnson where aret thou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Actually, with more two TE sets becoming more popular, Graham would be a great move. Not only is he a great blocking TE, cielslak86 (are you his wife?), he IS a good reciever too, better than Royal, but not one of the rare freaks like Tony G, Gates, and Vernon Davis (those guys are RARE). We would have two of the best blocking TE's in the game ( how's that for unexpected Oline improvement ) while both being legit pass catching threats. I think it would really balance out our offense. Nobodys saying we don't have other needs tennesseeboy ( and nobody besides me and of course BillInNYC are more on the same page as far as linemen go ), but count me in for going after Daniel Graham. We can hopefully get a guard in free agency and go DT, DE, and another guard in the draft! totally agree with this- the Bills have to help themselves where they can in free agency - to me that is OL DL and TE- I don't like the FA WRs, CB options except keeping Nate, OR LBs too much I'd rather have Spikes, Ellison, and Crowell . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Do you think there's a chance he falls to 32nd? Nice ! I love your optimism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted February 10, 2007 Author Share Posted February 10, 2007 Well, it's not looking too good for Graham. I forgot how the Patriots don't like to pony up the cash. Good bye Asante! Here's a link that breaks it down pretty good. http://www.projo.com/patriots/content/sp_f...96.17ac39c.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrooter Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Sorry guys forgot to insert the tight end from miami! I was talking about there tight end, take care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Few rookie TE's come in and make an immediate impact. Maybe you take one in thr 5th or lower; but why waste anything more than that esp. when we have Royal? We're talking about our #2 TE: I am happy with Cieslak and Everett competing for that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 maybe the Bills would be better off drafting a tight end on the 2nd day of the draft who can catch instead. A guy a lot of people like is Ben Patrick from Delaware. My first thought on reading this post is, Why on earth would a guy named Cieslak86 want the Bills to draft a TE? Then I remembered that my own username is Holcomb's Arm, and I wanted the Bills to draft Cutler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 totally agree with this- the Bills have to help themselves where they can in free agency - to me that is OL DL and TE- I don't like the FA WRs, CB options except keeping Nate, OR LBs too much I'd rather have Spikes, Ellison, and Crowell . Since 2001, free agency has brought the Bills the following OL: Trey Teague, Chris Villarrial, Bennie Anderson, Melvin Fowler, Mike Gandy, Tuten Reyes, and probably one or two other guys I'm forgetting. In other words, nobody. If the Bills have the chance to sign a top tier free agent offensive lineman, they should embrace it. But I don't want this team to sign some reject to a four year, $10 million deal, and pretend he'll be a long-term answer as a starter. Guys like that are cheap for a reason, and it isn't because their former teams still want them. My favorite way to address the offensive line is through the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 The only problem is the 12th spot doesn't warrant an Olineman and Marv is scarred to trade down for some reason. We need to get Steinbach, Davis, or Deilman and I'll be convinced we are serious about being a solid team, not one where at the end of the year we're are like "Oh yeah, if we sign 4-5 Pro Bowlers in free agency and have the best draft in team history we'll be awesome!". If we bet a permeir Olineman in free agency (there are only about 3 but we got the cash ) I would prfer the top rated DT or DE at our first pick, with Levi Brown or Justin Blaylock as the fall-back plan if the top 2 DE's AND DT's are gone. At least one of our lines would then have a chance to be dominant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 I'm all about Daniel Graham. With him and Royal, we would have 2 of the best blocking TEs in football. That's an instant o-line improvement for a fairly reasonable price. Additionally, Graham had 7 tds a few years ago so he could be that big wr/ red zone target we've all wanted. Get it done, Marv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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