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Guys, don't do it.

 

I hurt as much as you hurt. But the more you think about it, isn't asking for Donahoe to be fired tantamount to asking for a president to be fired if a general screws up an important mission? The Bills lost the Miami game because of playcalling, first and foremost, on both sides of the ball.

 

I think Tom's main duty is to serve as President. He is in charge of making sure that the franchise sells a product and increases its exposure, etc. He has done a good job of that, from sellouts to luxury suites to the Website to pulling in Rochester to hiring a real agency to produce some pretty damn good ads. (Love that Beatles one).

 

As a talent evaluator, he merely facilitates. The scouting data and opinions are pooled and he facilitates the best choice being made - he doesn't veto or strong arm anyone.

 

I think Tom Modrak has done a good job.

 

But they missed on Mike Williams (If he ever decides he wants to be a football player, I still think he'll be great.), Lawyer Milloy (He hasn't made game-changing plays since week 1, 2003.), Bennie Anderson, several late-round picks which every team experiences, Josh Reed (who seems to be steadily improving in an unspectacular way), and a few others.

 

But they have hit on more than they've missed, and I believe this is an extremely talented roster. McNally has not worked the wonders we expected, but it's true that we haven't had healthy 5 linemen for consecutive games since...

 

Yes, a bit of bad luck plays into it. Not much, and no one wants to hear it, including me, but it's true.

 

But the playcalling has been predictable, peppered with stupid gimmicks that rarely work, and most importantly, DREADFUL GAME AND CLOCK MANAGEMENT.

 

Tom is 0-2 so far for coaches, but if you step back and think about it, I don't think there's any chance that Mularkey will be fired. Why? Because we have a young QB who has taken a while to develop in this offense, and asking him to start over with a new offense will take us back to Losman in a rookie state with a little bit more game savvy. I don't think Ralph wants to start over. I think he wants people to stand up and be counted.

 

Mularkey has a LOT to learn. Sadly, Tom chose to let him learn on our watch. Mistake, yes. But it's done, and now the responsibility falls on the coach to put our talented roster to proper use.

 

Just my opinion, but I do think the ire should be weighted toward coaching.

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Guys, don't do it.

 

I hurt as much as you hurt. But the more you think about it, isn't asking for Donahoe to be fired tantamount to asking for a president to be fired if a general screws up an important mission? The Bills lost the Miami game because of playcalling, first and foremost, on both sides of the ball.

 

I think Tom's main duty is to serve as President. He is in charge of making sure that the franchise sells a product and increases its exposure, etc. He has done a good job of that, from sellouts to luxury suites to the Website to pulling in Rochester to hiring a real agency to produce some pretty damn good ads. (Love that Beatles one).

 

As a talent evaluator, he merely facilitates. The scouting data and opinions are pooled and he facilitates the best choice being made - he doesn't veto or strong arm anyone.

 

I think Tom Modrak has done a good job.

 

But they missed on Mike Williams (If he ever decides he wants to be a football player, I still think he'll be great.), Lawyer Milloy (He hasn't made game-changing plays since week 1, 2003.), Bennie Anderson, several late-round picks which every team experiences, Josh Reed (who seems to be steadily improving in an unspectacular way), and a few others.

 

But they have hit on more than they've missed, and I believe this is an extremely talented roster. McNally has not worked the wonders we expected, but it's true that we haven't had healthy 5 linemen for consecutive games since...

 

Yes, a bit of bad luck plays into it. Not much, and no one wants to hear it, including me, but it's true.

 

But the playcalling has been predictable, peppered with stupid gimmicks that rarely work, and most importantly, DREADFUL GAME AND CLOCK MANAGEMENT.

 

Tom is 0-2 so far for coaches, but if you step back and think about it, I don't think there's any chance that Mularkey will be fired. Why? Because we have a young QB who has taken a while to develop in this offense, and asking him to start over with a new offense will take us back to Losman in a rookie state with a little bit more game savvy. I don't think Ralph wants to start over. I think he wants people to stand up and be counted.

 

Mularkey has a LOT to learn. Sadly, Tom chose to let him learn on our watch. Mistake, yes. But it's done, and now the responsibility falls on the coach to put our talented roster to proper use.

 

Just my opinion, but I do think the ire should be weighted toward coaching.

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YEAH HE'S HAD 5 YEARS TO PUT A WINNER ON THE FIELD AND HAS STILL NOT DONE SO. DONAHOE MUST GO. FIRE DONAHOE.

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Whether it's coaching or Management they don't need a bunch of chanting Yahoo A-holes to know that the on the field results have been sub-par. I'll always root for my team to win the game they're playing. Just my opinion.

 

As bad as RJ was in his day I'll never forget how embarassing it was at that time going to games and hearing that crap constantly.

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Whether it's coaching or Management they don't need a bunch of chanting Yahoo A-holes to know that the on the field results have been sub-par. I'll always root for my team to win the game they're playing. Just my opinion.

 

As bad as RJ was in his day I'll never forget how embarassing it was at that time going to games and hearing that crap constantly.

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I WILL ROOT FOR THE BILLS I WANT THEM TO WIN. THAT WHY DONAHOE GOTTA GO HE CAN'T BUILD A TEAM. WELL HE GOTTEN US GOOD PLAYERS. BUT HE CAN'T SEEM TO GET A COACH THAT CAN KEEP A TEAM TOGETHER. AND THE BIGGEST IS WELL THE MAIN INGREDIENT IN A TEAM THE O LINE. DONAHOE PROBLEM IS HE DON'T WANT ANOTHER COACH LIKE COWER THAT WILL RUN HIM OUTTA TOWN. GET THE CHANT GOING SUNDAY FIRE DONAHOE

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Donahoe wasn't the one who called a passing play on 1st and goal at the 3.

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YEAH MIKE CAN FELLOW HIM RIGHT TO ANOTHER TEAM AND RUIN IT TO. DONAHOE HAS HAD 5 YEARS ALMOST 6 YEARS TO PUT A WINNER ON THE FIELD AND HE ALWAYS FIND ANOTHER EXCAPE GOAT. HE'S THE ONE WITH THE PROBLEM HE CAN'T RUN A TEAM. HE CAN'T DRAFT. HE DISSES FANS OF BUFFALO THE GREATEST FANS IN THE WORLD. HE DRAFTED A WR THIS YEAR THAT IF YOU TOUCH WITH YOUR FINGER HE FALLS OVER BECAUSE HE'S TO LITTLE. HE DRAFTED A TACKLE THAT CAN'T PLAY BECAUSE THE BRIGHT COACH HE SIGNED DESIDED THAT HE ATE TO MANY BURGERS LAST YEAR. THEN HIS BRIGHT COACH DESIDED TO BENCH THE QB OF THE FUTURE. HE HAD ONE HIT THAT WAS JACKPOT IN WILLIS. BUT WILLIS CAN'T EVEN LIVE UP TO HIS POTIENTAL BECAUSE WE HAVE YET TO HAVE A LINE IN FRONT OF HIM. AND NOW HE'S TRYING TO GET HIS BEST WR MAD AT HIM. OH AND WE CAN'T FORGET SAM ADAMS HE WAS INACTIVE BECAUSE MULARKY DECIDED SITTING HIM GAVE US THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN. SO LETS GET THE CHANT GOING SUNDAY DONAHOE MUST GO FIRE DONAHOE AND TAKE MIKE WITH YOU

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YEAH MIKE CAN FELLOW HIM RIGHT TO ANOTHER TEAM AND RUIN IT TO.  DONAHOE HAS HAD 5 YEARS ALMOST 6 YEARS TO PUT A WINNER ON THE FIELD AND HE ALWAYS FIND ANOTHER EXCAPE GOAT.  HE'S THE ONE WITH THE PROBLEM HE CAN'T RUN A TEAM.  HE CAN'T DRAFT.  HE DISSES FANS OF BUFFALO THE GREATEST FANS IN THE WORLD.    HE DRAFTED A WR THIS YEAR THAT IF YOU TOUCH WITH YOUR FINGER HE FALLS OVER BECAUSE HE'S TO LITTLE.  HE DRAFTED A  TACKLE THAT CAN'T PLAY BECAUSE THE BRIGHT COACH HE SIGNED DESIDED THAT HE ATE TO MANY BURGERS LAST YEAR.  THEN HIS BRIGHT COACH DESIDED TO BENCH THE QB OF THE FUTURE.  HE HAD ONE HIT THAT WAS JACKPOT IN WILLIS.  BUT WILLIS CAN'T EVEN LIVE UP TO HIS POTIENTAL BECAUSE WE HAVE YET TO HAVE A LINE IN FRONT OF HIM.  AND NOW HE'S TRYING TO GET HIS BEST WR MAD AT HIM.  OH AND WE CAN'T FORGET SAM ADAMS HE WAS INACTIVE BECAUSE MULARKY DECIDED SITTING HIM GAVE US THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN.  SO LETS GET THE CHANT GOING SUNDAY DONAHOE MUST GO FIRE DONAHOE AND TAKE MIKE WITH YOU

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1) TURN OFF THE CAP LOCKS

 

2) It's "scape goat"

 

3) Even if it wasn't, it would be "escape", not "excape".

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I don't totally blame TD for most of the situations you listed below. I also don't blame him for not signing PhatPat last year either as I think it would have been a risk at his age. Yeah, he's having a good year in Minn, but lets see where he is in two years when they're still paying for him. I also agreed with his decision to sign Bledsoe at the time, and still think overall more good came from it than bad.

 

I've defended TD for the most part up until about a month ago. The overall problems with the lines related to talent, makes me agree he needs to go. TD's problem may be he truely isn't a football guy. He's from the business side which not surprisedly just happens to be an area where the Bills are doing well. But ultimately you need to also be superior on the football side of things too. Maybe because he doesn't have that deep football background makes him want to more pick up the glamour players, WR RB, etc and ignore the lines. I don't know what the problem is but after 5 years we're almost back to square one

 

There are many teams in many sports who just kind of wallow around in the middle to lower end of the pack for years. They start to get better, get peoples hopes up only to falter again. The GM fires the coach, brings in new players, and the cycle starts all over again. Right now the Lions are a great example. Finally someone figures out the problem all along was the GM and if they get lucky and get a good one, the problems go away. The NY Giants in the early 80s were there until they hired George Young. The Mets were terrible till they hired Frank Cashen in the early 80's. From the 50's till the 90's the Detroit Red Wings did nothing. The Baltimore O's were a great team till Angelos came in and screwed things up. It happened right here in Buffalo when the Sabres brought in Bowman. He was a great coach in Montreal, but didn't do much here in Buffalo except cycle the roster over a couple times.

 

So fire TD, and who ever comes in can decide what to do with MM I have very mixed feeling if they fire TD whether to turn to TM as he was the guy who scouted most of the players we signed. If as you suggested the problem isn't TD, but who is giving him advice, as the GM he needs to know that and get rid of the problem. But again he's failed there too.

 

The job of the GM in most cases is way under rated. He will make or break things. Who knows with a good roster in front of him, MM maye be looking like the coach of the year. But right now, we'll never know!

 

 

 

Guys, don't do it.

 

I hurt as much as you hurt. But the more you think about it, isn't asking for Donahoe to be fired tantamount to asking for a president to be fired if a general screws up an important mission? The Bills lost the Miami game because of playcalling, first and foremost, on both sides of the ball.

 

I think Tom's main duty is to serve as President. He is in charge of making sure that the franchise sells a product and increases its exposure, etc. He has done a good job of that, from sellouts to luxury suites to the Website to pulling in Rochester to hiring a real agency to produce some pretty damn good ads. (Love that Beatles one).

 

As a talent evaluator, he merely facilitates. The scouting data and opinions are pooled and he facilitates the best choice being made - he doesn't veto or strong arm anyone.

 

I think Tom Modrak has done a good job.

 

But they missed on Mike Williams (If he ever decides he wants to be a football player, I still think he'll be great.), Lawyer Milloy (He hasn't made game-changing plays since week 1, 2003.), Bennie Anderson, several late-round picks which every team experiences, Josh Reed (who seems to be steadily improving in an unspectacular way), and a few others.

 

But they have hit on more than they've missed, and I believe this is an extremely talented roster. McNally has not worked the wonders we expected, but it's true that we haven't had healthy 5 linemen for consecutive games since...

 

Yes, a bit of bad luck plays into it. Not much, and no one wants to hear it, including me, but it's true.

 

But the playcalling has been predictable, peppered with stupid gimmicks that rarely work, and most importantly, DREADFUL GAME AND CLOCK MANAGEMENT.

 

Tom is 0-2 so far for coaches, but if you step back and think about it, I don't think there's any chance that Mularkey will be fired. Why? Because we have a young QB who has taken a while to develop in this offense, and asking him to start over with a new offense will take us back to Losman in a rookie state with a little bit more game savvy. I don't think Ralph wants to start over. I think he wants people to stand up and be counted.

 

Mularkey has a LOT to learn. Sadly, Tom chose to let him learn on our watch. Mistake, yes. But it's done, and now the responsibility falls on the coach to put our talented roster to proper use.

 

Just my opinion, but I do think the ire should be weighted toward coaching.

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EVERYONE READY FOR FIRE DONAHOE

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That stuff always backfires.-Americans dont like piling on--and there is always a backlash of sympathy for the one getting abused.--This will only prolong TDs tenure---and/or make it much more difficult for Ralph to get rid of him.

So--although I think TD--through bad luck/bad ability--whatever--he failed to get the job done---deserves to go-there is a smart way to get it done--and this isnt smart.

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But the more you think about it, isn't asking for Donahoe to be fired tantamount to asking for a president to be fired if a general screws up an important mission? The Bills lost the Miami game because of playcalling, first and foremost, on both sides of the ball.

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WRONG! The president doesn't pick generals. He can fire them when they make mistakes, but he doesn't pick 'em. -- TD picked his coaches. He is responsible for having a head coach who contiues to make huge "rookie mistakes." I can deal witha QB making rookie errors, but NFL teams -- good NFL teams -- don't draft coaches like players. It is very, very well documented that TD passed on excellent coaches in order to hire MM.

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Tom is 0-2 so far for coaches, but if you step back and think about it, I don't think there's any chance that Mularkey will be fired. Why? Because we have a young QB who has taken a while to develop in this offense, and asking him to start over with a new offense will take us back to Losman in a rookie state with a little bit more game savvy. I don't think Ralph wants to start over. I think he wants people to stand up and be counted.

 

Mularkey will be fired because he has lost the team and no coach can survive that. If Ralph has some stones, he'll fire Donahoe & Mularkey today. I know that won't happen, but unless Mularkey proves that he can get along with the players he's gone. Even Willis is calling this chaos. Ralph will not stand for this more than 4 more weeks.

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