plenzmd1 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Allright, so is Clements OC in charge of wacked trick plays. Guess for everyone calling for Clements head, this just shows maybe not his fault. Also, seems he starting calling plays the exact same week JP was benched, does that mean anything? Guess it only means new OC next year eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Hopefully. The one thing it also coincides with is a better commitment to the run game. Didn't seem to have much effect on the occasional brain-dead play call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 After sitting through the Saints game, I would've been all in favor of firing Clements THAT NIGHT. So yeah, I'm okay with Mularkey taking over, even though I can do without the attempts at trickeration. Then again, FB dives and QB sneak passes on fourth-and-short should tell us exactly how much confidence he has in his running game, shouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 If Mularkey is calling all the plays, what does Clements do then? Seems like a waste of space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 If Mularkey is calling all the plays, what does Clements do then? Seems like a waste of space. 506567[/snapback] Mail resumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 If Mularkey is calling all the plays, what does Clements do then? Seems like a waste of space. 506567[/snapback] Because the ONLY responibilties of an OC is to call plays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duey Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 If Mularkey is calling all the plays, what does Clements do then? Seems like a waste of space. 506567[/snapback] Nah...Mike Williams has that issue all to himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obie_wan Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 If Mularkey is calling all the plays, what does Clements do then? Seems like a waste of space. 506567[/snapback] maybe he's teaching Fat Mike the finer points of bench sitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeRay Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Whoa Nellie.... If Malarkey is now calling the plays, it would seem logical that it's an indictment being handed down on the OC. But wait just a minute. If that's the case, what the hell is Sam Wyche jibber-jabbering about up in the spotters booth, and to whom is he doing the jibber-jabbering to. I woulda thunk that Sam is setting the table for the OC and telling him what he's seeing. If that's the case, doesn't that dictate what the play calls will be based on the game plan that was drawn up, and doesn't Malarkey sign off on the game plan as well as the entire offensive design? I remember Jim Fassel taking over the play calling from Sean Peyton when he was with the Giants just a few seasons ago. He didn't end up firing him though and eventually Fassel was fired and Peyton ended up calling the plays for Bill Parcells in Dallas, as well as being a finalist for the Al Davis concierge derby, which, of course he turned down. Meanwhile Fassel was on the the Ravens as QB coach and then this year promoted to OC. Well, Fassel aint doing so hot and there's a good chance his HC and most of the staff is going to be getting a one way ticket out of Crabcakeville at the season's end. So, from my perspective, in this case, I've got to suspect that Malarkey has some culpability here too... and a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 that's big news, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownBillsFan Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 where was this posted? did they have a press conference about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan Trapped in Pats Land Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 that's big news, right? 506705[/snapback] Not if it happened a couple weeks ago, as the story mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Long Beach Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I'm happy about it. Truthfully, I've noticed a difference in the play calling, and I thought for the better. Granted there are still some braindead individual play calls. But overall I've been happier. This really clears up a couple things in my mind. Including the connection between Clements and Temple. I really believe the playcalling has been more stable. Nonwithstanding the weird ones. (Hell I LIKE some weird calls, but some of the timing has been...poor) I also like that the head coach has shown patience but an not unlimited amount. He's willing to change things up when they've shown to not be working. Example of benching the highest paid and highest drafted player on our team for an undrafted second year player... Honestly, that's some cajones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 18, 2005 Author Share Posted November 18, 2005 I also like that the head coach has shown patience but an not unlimited amount. He's willing to change things up when they've shown to not be working. Example of benching the highest paid and highest drafted player on our team for an undrafted second year player... Honestly, that's some cajones. 506792[/snapback] I agree on the cajones part. My overall "pissed off at em"ness has dropped considerably once this move was made. JP coming in, though no fault of theirs, was like the cake coming out of the oven. And the icing was seein the yound safeties getting some playing time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Parcells once took the playcalling duties away from..... Charlie Weis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Bills | Mularkey takes over play-calling Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:26:28 -0800 Mark Gaughan, of the Buffalo News, reports Buffalo Bills head coach Mike Mularkey has taken over primary play-calling duties from offensive coordinator Tom Clements. Goodbye, Mr. Clements! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Per the article yesterday, MM started to call the majority of plays in week 6. Which, as memory serves, we started running the ball more consistently, rather than pass-pass-pass-punt. Not that it has been gleaming perfection since then, tho. And, it begs the question whether this leak from the otherwise mute 1BD was the reason Clements rescinded his application to coach at Temple. B/c for an OC, that was tantamount to a public castration. Can't say it wasn't deserved; it just boggles the mind how we could go from the offense last year that ran the ball effectively and had fairly good/conservative-but-not-too-conservative playcalling, to the dreck Clements was calling early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Per the article yesterday, MM started to call the majority of plays in week 6. Which, as memory serves, we started running the ball more consistently, rather than pass-pass-pass-punt. Not that it has been gleaming perfection since then, tho. And, it begs the question whether this leak from the otherwise mute 1BD was the reason Clements rescinded his application to coach at Temple. B/c for an OC, that was tantamount to a public castration. Can't say it wasn't deserved; it just boggles the mind how we could go from the offense last year that ran the ball effectively and had fairly good/conservative-but-not-too-conservative playcalling, to the dreck Clements was calling early on. 507142[/snapback] I could care less who calls the plays, as long as it has something to do with our strengths attacking their weaknesses, for all i care we could just use the "ask madden" option in 2006 if it gets the job done. I don't know how a team with a rookie QB runs so many mind boggling plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjeff215 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 The best part about it is that it shows that he isn't afraid to hurt an assistant's feelings. If they guy isn't getting the job done, do it for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazykat Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Bills | Mularkey takes over play-callingFri, 18 Nov 2005 16:26:28 -0800 Mark Gaughan, of the Buffalo News, reports Buffalo Bills head coach Mike Mularkey has taken over primary play-calling duties from offensive coordinator Tom Clements. Goodbye, Mr. Clements! 507139[/snapback] Could be goodbye Mr. Mularkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Could be goodbye Mr. Mularkey 507157[/snapback] As much as I question Mularkey's choices sometimes, I respect him more than I ever respected GW, I think he will be a good coach one day, doesnt seem to give up as his job is really not as easy as many armchair gm's make it sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 As much as I question Mularkey's choices sometimes, I respect him more than I ever respected GW, I think he will be a good coach one day, doesnt seem to give up as his job is really not as easy as many armchair gm's make it sound 507161[/snapback] What?! All you need to do is win every game....what's so tough about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 What?! All you need to do is win every game....what's so tough about that? 507165[/snapback] Silly me!! i forgot it was that easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Could be goodbye Mr. Mularkey 507157[/snapback] Not that Mularky is a great coach by any means, but he currently is in possession of a winning record with the Bills. It's hard to get rid of a guy with a winning record when the team has been stuck in the quagmire for the past 5-6 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Bills | Mularkey takes over play-callingFri, 18 Nov 2005 16:26:28 -0800 Mark Gaughan, of the Buffalo News, reports Buffalo Bills head coach Mike Mularkey has taken over primary play-calling duties from offensive coordinator Tom Clements. Goodbye, Mr. Clements! 507139[/snapback] This move should've been made last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Lets recount: 1997: Dan Henning 1998-2000: Joe Pendry 2001: Mike Sheppard 2002-2003: Killdrive 2004-2005: Clements We go thru Offensive Coordinators faster than Kirk goes thru guys in red shirts, yet the offense continues to struggle. Maybe its not the guy at the top, but the guys in the trenches? They could hire Christ himself on a Ritz cracker as OC. But it would be like putting Patton in charge of the French Army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Whoa Nellie.... If Malarkey is now calling the plays, it would seem logical that it's an indictment being handed down on the OC. But wait just a minute. If that's the case, what the hell is Sam Wyche jibber-jabbering about up in the spotters booth, and to whom is he doing the jibber-jabbering to. I woulda thunk that Sam is setting the table for the OC and telling him what he's seeing. If that's the case, doesn't that dictate what the play calls will be based on the game plan that was drawn up, and doesn't Malarkey sign off on the game plan as well as the entire offensive design? I remember Jim Fassel taking over the play calling from Sean Peyton when he was with the Giants just a few seasons ago. He didn't end up firing him though and eventually Fassel was fired and Peyton ended up calling the plays for Bill Parcells in Dallas, as well as being a finalist for the Al Davis concierge derby, which, of course he turned down. Meanwhile Fassel was on the the Ravens as QB coach and then this year promoted to OC. Well, Fassel aint doing so hot and there's a good chance his HC and most of the staff is going to be getting a one way ticket out of Crabcakeville at the season's end. So, from my perspective, in this case, I've got to suspect that Malarkey has some culpability here too... and a lot. 506685[/snapback] Al Davis concierge derby??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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