gggbills Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 You all know what I am talking about, was that a catch by the Pats on that second TD drive....you know, the one that the refs so-called reviewed. I was in a bar that was half filled with Pats fans, and even they did not think the guy caught the ball. What's say you all.....catch or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey7789 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 You all know what I am talking about, was that a catch by the Pats on that second TD drive....you know, the one that the refs so-called reviewed. I was in a bar that was half filled with Pats fans, and even they did not think the guy caught the ball. What's say you all.....catch or not? 490840[/snapback] No, it was not a catch. None of the announcers thought it was a catch either. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanone Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 I thougt it was close. I knew it wouldn't be overturned though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIS Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 !@#$ no it wasn't a catch! even some blind folk could see that sh--! !@#$ it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 and the one after that wasn't a catch either. the refs really f***ed the bills over in the 4th qrtr, the moulds push off was a very weak call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIS Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 and the one after that wasn't a catch either. the refs really f***ed the bills over in the 4th qrtr, the moulds push off was a very weak call. 490914[/snapback] YES...MOST OF THE BILLS PENALTIES WERE WEAK CALLS...sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 and the one after that wasn't a catch either. the refs really f***ed the bills over in the 4th qrtr, the moulds push off was a very weak call. 490914[/snapback] Not to mention the missed no-call against the Pats when the hit #92 in the back on a play. He even got up and said, "What the hell, ref?!" Definately seemed like the refs were out to help the Pats in the 4th. Still, we should've scored some points in the first three quarters. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbeau Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 and the one after that wasn't a catch either. the refs really f***ed the bills over in the 4th qrtr, the moulds push off was a very weak call. 490914[/snapback] Macguire started to say that you don't call a weak OPI call that late in a close game, but quickly hushed up and started to sing a different tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Not to mention the missed no-call against the Pats when the hit #92 in the back on a play. He even got up and said, "What the hell, ref?!" Definately seemed like the refs were out to help the Pats in the 4th. Still, we should've scored some points in the first three quarters. CW 490928[/snapback] yeah it is a shame that the bills played better than the pats and still lost. the pats stole that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 The call on Moulds, the catch that wasn't....yeah both were huge, game breakers they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 You all know what I am talking about, was that a catch by the Pats on that second TD drive....you know, the one that the refs so-called reviewed. I was in a bar that was half filled with Pats fans, and even they did not think the guy caught the ball. What's say you all.....catch or not? 490840[/snapback] Don't worry about it too much- just enjoy the fact that we had the "chamnps" on the ropes, and they are going down the drain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gggbills Posted October 31, 2005 Author Share Posted October 31, 2005 !@#$ no it wasn't a catch! even some blind folk could see that sh--! !@#$ it! 490872[/snapback] Thank you, I was drinking so I thought I might have been wrong. I am SOO tired of the Pats getting those kind of calls. What would the papers in the morning have been writing if we had beaten them? Bills beat Pats and Tedy....instead, they can now write their made for TV movie story. We got Fuc@, again, by a ref, in Pats land. It is hard for me to even respect a team like that when we get so clearly screwed that way. I know Pats Trolls will think I am whinning, but I really do not care. In a game that close where the Pats are having trouble moving the ball, you simple can not F-up a call that is SOOOOO clear to anyone that can see out of half of one eye. Sad, very sad day for the Bills. Many people thought that we would be killed tonite. It is so sad to actually put up a great fight only to have some moron of a ref give the game to the Pats. I cannot tell you how bad I feel about this game tonite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 unless they changed the rule that the ball can't move after hitting the ground, then NO, it wasn NOT a catch....... On top of that, the rest of the Refs calls were terrible. With the announcing Pats lovefest, and the terrible refs calls.....this might be the most discusting game I ever had to watch...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper13 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Just the latest in a long line of screw jobs against the Bills vs. the Patriots. Close games against NE, we have to beat the Patriots and the Refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radio dude Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Not as disgusting as the Bills having a 16-7 lead and not having the testosterone to salt it away...maybe a lack of heart, unlike the abundance of it brought by Bruschi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 You all know what I am talking about, was that a catch by the Pats on that second TD drive....you know, the one that the refs so-called reviewed. I was in a bar that was half filled with Pats fans, and even they did not think the guy caught the ball. What's say you all.....catch or not? 490840[/snapback] No it was not. If you look closely at the review, you see the end of the ball hit the ground, and the ball's knocked loose, completely out of his arm, and he falls on it. By the NFL's own rule, even if he had possession going down, he did not complete the requisite "football action" to make it possession and a catch (which, by the way, is a terminally stupid rule). Problem is...it was very tough to see. Rather subtle, and partially blocked by his arm. It was conclusive IF you saw it...but it was easy to miss, particularly on a time limit (took me more than 90 seconds to see it). Guess the ref just missed it. C'est la guerre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB2004 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Thank you, I was drinking so I thought I might have been wrong. I am SOO tired of the Pats getting those kind of calls. What would the papers in the morning have been writing if we had beaten them? Bills beat Pats and Tedy....instead, they can now write their made for TV movie story. We got Fuc@, again, by a ref, in Pats land. It is hard for me to even respect a team like that when we get so clearly screwed that way. I know Pats Trolls will think I am whinning, but I really do not care. In a game that close where the Pats are having trouble moving the ball, you simple can not F-up a call that is SOOOOO clear to anyone that can see out of half of one eye. Sad, very sad day for the Bills. Many people thought that we would be killed tonite. It is so sad to actually put up a great fight only to have some moron of a ref give the game to the Pats. I cannot tell you how bad I feel about this game tonite. 490953[/snapback] Lets be realistic. We collapsed down the stretch after the 2nd booth review. Our offensive line had a better game but NOT their pass blocking. Truthfully I didn't think we played that well to begin with. I felt like we were matching the Patriots intensity in the first half. When we got up to a 9 point lead in the fourth after we couldn't move the ball, I thought that we blew two opportunites to seperate ourselves from NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLS4LIFE Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Hell no it wasnt. Even the stupid announcers knew it wasnt. Not enough evidence? WTH are they looking at??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 how come they only have one camera angle when reviewing calls against the patriots, yet every other challenge in the league has at least 5 different angles on the play? That was not a catch, even from that crappy angle. and i don't believe that was the only camera on the play at that time, especially on a nationally televised game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 how come they only have one camera angle when reviewing calls against the patriots, yet every other challenge in the league has at least 5 different angles on the play? That was not a catch, even from that crappy angle. and i don't believe that was the only camera on the play at that time, especially on a nationally televised game. 491173[/snapback] where was their damn sky cam that they masterbate over the entire pregame? oh thats right, it would have showed an incomplete pass, we cant have the pats lsoe in the brushi comeback game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 the refs HATE buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 the refs HATE buffalo 491191[/snapback] Ever since Ralph Wilson's scathing letter to the league after being fined for speaking out after the "Just Give It To 'Em" game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Ever since Ralph Wilson's scathing letter to the league after being fined for speaking out after the "Just Give It To 'Em" game. 491203[/snapback] This game was "Just Give It To 'Em" Part II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman's Helmet Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Sounds like more than a few of you need the Wahhhhmbulance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 I hated how the refs made Holcomb fumble and then to top it off the refs made Holcomb throw a two yard pass on fourth and seven. Those rat bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Donahoe Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 I hated how the refs made Holcomb fumble and then to top it off the refs made Holcomb throw a two yard pass on fourth and seven. Those rat bastards. You guys did get screwed on those two plays. On the 4th down, the Pats left a guy wide open deep down the middle of the field, but the ref noticed and dragged him to the ground. Damn refs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 The whining about the refs is tired. The Bills lost this game themselves and if anybody just gave it to 'em it was the coaching staff who gift wrapped it and Kelly Holcomb who delivered it. We dominated but as bad teams often do we couldn't put the opponent away and it came back to haunt us. Next rebuilding decade please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Donahoe Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 I can only imagine how pissed you guys would be if the Bills were penalized for committing an "unnatural act." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col_forbin Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 and the one after that wasn't a catch either. the refs really f***ed the bills over in the 4th qrtr, the moulds push off was a very weak call. 490914[/snapback] AGREED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeBill Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Enough evidence to overturn it... YES. That may have well been the #2 play that lost us the game, second to the fumble by KH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch19079 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 his arm was not under it. it hit the ground. not a catch. why the hell did the ref not say WHY the play stands? they used to.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fashionformillenium Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Definitely some bad calls against the Bills. That certainly didn't help matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Sounds like more than a few of you need the Wahhhhmbulance. 491446[/snapback] That was not a catch and the PI on Moulds was nothing more than "protecting" NE by the ref's. Even your DB was laughing that Moulds was flagged..... Mr. Helmet, you and your Patsies may rot in hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 I can only imagine how pissed you guys would be if the Bills were penalized for committing an "unnatural act." 491480[/snapback] No, that was just !@#$ing hilarious. I won't complain about Branch's catch...I don't believe it was a catch, but I had to stare at the tape for a good while before I saw anything that convinced me. It was tough to distinguish. That PI call against Moulds, though...that was atrocious. Sure, technically he pushed off...but I have never seen such a nit-picky call before in my life. Nobody ever calls that, particularly that late in a close game. Bush league call. But then, pretty much everything about the game was bush league. Ugly-ass game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch19079 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 I can only imagine how pissed you guys would be if the Bills were penalized for committing an "unnatural act." 491480[/snapback] i would like to think we wouldnt do something so stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 That PI call against Moulds, though...that was atrocious. Sure, technically he pushed off...but I have never seen such a nit-picky call before in my life. You didn't watch the Bills/Pats game in '98 where Henry Jones drew the PI call in the endzone? You know, the one that Tagliabue came out and said was a terrible call that should never have been made, especially not in a close game? The one where he said the refs should never determine the outcome of the game, the players should? What do those two instances have in common? CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 You didn't watch the Bills/Pats game in '98 where Henry Jones drew the PI call in the endzone? You know, the one that Tagliabue came out and said was a terrible call that should never have been made, especially not in a close game? The one where he said the refs should never determine the outcome of the game, the players should? What do those two instances have in common? CW 491700[/snapback] Don't even MENTION that game to me. That still makes me violently angry. But I never saw that play. I was blind with rage after that out-of-bounds-a-yard-short first down conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Why is anyone surprised? The Pats won their 1st 2 SB's thanks to MAJOR help from the refs. You think they were going to NOT favor the Pats on national TV with the new feel-good story of Bruschi returning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 I can only imagine how pissed you guys would be if the Bills were penalized for committing an "unnatural act." 491480[/snapback] A presnap penalty on a 3rd & 4 play which the Bills were going to convert anyway was slightly less significant than the Moulds PI.... But yeah, whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLS4LIFE Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Sounds like more than a few of you need the Wahhhhmbulance. 491446[/snapback] Why? Because the truth hurts? Your team has the ref in their back pocket every game. They dont need indisputable evidence. The receiver bobbled it just enough that it did hit the ground. Most people can see that. As far as whining about the QB and the coach? Well,Im not whining about it,but the truth is this team does not deserve to go to the playoffs the way they make stupid calls with the game on the line. Its time for Donahoe to take a hike and take his coach with him and put Losman back in there,because hes got to start learning ON the field...not warming the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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