ryguy101 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago Between the Top 7: What Loss Would Each Team Want Back? Week 15 Edition Broncos Pats Jags Steelers Chargers Bills Texans Quote
BruceVilanch Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 9 minutes ago, BearNorth said: Bills - def Pats at home. Pretty easy pick 3 Quote
dayman Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago (edited) Whatever loss each team had to their closest division competitor, or conference competitor, or just conference loss….depending on the situation. Not trying to be an ass, but there is actually and answer to this for every team that is objectively correct and you just look at their place in the standings and schedule to determine it, it isn’t very hard to do and therefore this just isn’t a very interesting question for discussion. Obviously the Pats for the Bills. Each other team has a fairly obvious answer for themselves as well. Edited 17 hours ago by dayman Quote
Billsfanatic8989 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago Broncos- Colts. They had it won and got porked by the refs. Patriots-Raiders game. I know opening day is weird. And is not a sign of things to come. But that is a disastrous organization from top to bottom. If the two teams played Sunday, the Raiders would get obliterated. Jags-Texans game. Huge lead blown to the backup Steelers-Bills. They probably find a way to win if the first turnover does not happen Chargers-Washington. In retrospect, that was a terrible loss. Bills-Dolphins game. The Patriots are good. Losing like that to Miami might be what puts us on the road in the postseason. That was the ugliest game all year. Where there was no hope from start to end Texans-Bucs game. One Mayfield scramble stop from a win 1 minute ago, dayman said: Whatever loss each team had to their closest division competitor, or conference competitor, or just conference loss….depending on the situation. Not trying to be an ass, but there is actually and answer to this for every team that is objectively correct and you just look at their place in the standings and schedule to determine it, it isn’t very hard to do and therefore this just isn’t a very interesting question for discussion. Obviously the Pats for the Bills. Each other team has a fairly obvious answer for themselves as well. I only choose Miami because it was shocking, unacceptable and disheartening. 2 Quote
dayman Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago (edited) Here are the answers: Seed Team Record Most Damaging Loss Opponent (Rec) Primary Consequence 1 Denver Broncos 11-2 Week 3 Pittsburgh Steelers (7-6) Surrendered H2H leverage to a potential Divisional Round opponent and blemished an otherwise perfect AFC resume. 2 New England Patriots 11-2 Week 1 Las Vegas Raiders (2-11) A catastrophic "Common Opponent" failure that currently hands the No. 1 seed tiebreaker to Denver. 3 Jacksonville Jaguars 9-4 Week 10 Houston Texans (8-5) Nullified a potential season sweep, splitting the H2H tiebreaker and keeping the division race a toss-up. 4 Pittsburgh Steelers 7-6 Week 7 Cincinnati Bengals (4-9) A division loss to a non-playoff team that severely weakens their hold on the AFC North against Baltimore. 5 Los Angeles Chargers 9-4 Week 7 Indianapolis Colts (8-5) Handed a direct H2H tiebreaker advantage to the primary team chasing them for a Wild Card spot. 6 Buffalo Bills 9-4 Week 5 New England Patriots (11-2) Effectively destroyed realistic hopes of winning the AFC East, locking them into the Wild Card road path. 7 Houston Texans 8-5 Week 3 Jacksonville Jaguars (9-4) The root cause of their current deficit in the AFC South; a win here would have them leading the division today. Edited 16 hours ago by dayman Quote
RiotAct Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Pats… however, the loss against Miami was inexcusable. 1 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, dayman said: Whatever loss each team had to their closest division competitor, or conference competitor, or just conference loss….depending on the situation. Not trying to be an ass, but there is actually and answer to this for every team that is objectively correct and you just look at their place in the standings and schedule to determine it, it isn’t very hard to do and therefore this just isn’t a very interesting question for discussion. Obviously the Pats for the Bills. Each other team has a fairly obvious answer for themselves as well. See, the spirit of the question could be interpreted differently, in that when we say a player or team would "want (a play or game) back" we usually mean that they should have succeeded if they'd simply done their jobs. Generally speaking, the Bills should be MORE REGRETFUL of the Dolphins loss compared to the Patriots loss. The Patriots are legit, so losing to the Dolphins likely involves more self-inflicted, unforced errors (in preparation, execution, etc.) from a perennial contender like Buffalo. Obviously the Patriots loss is more impactful for playoff seeding, so changing the result is more immediately helpful, but that's not how I would interpret the phrasing in the OP. Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago (edited) 9 hours ago, RiotAct said: Pats… however, the loss against Miami was inexcusable. If we hadn’t lost to Miami, we’d still own our destiny in terms of winning the division and would be right on the Broncos tail for the #1 seed too. Edited 6 hours ago by strive_for_five_guy 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) Pats gives us back the division, and maybe even home field. Selfishly, I'd say the Falcons since I went to that game and it suuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked. And so do the Falcons. Edited 5 hours ago by DrDawkinstein Quote
BfloPa Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 15 hours ago, BearNorth said: Bills - def Pats at home. Yes this is the one that would have us in a good position for the Division vs having to go wild card route. Quote
Process Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) Patriots would obviously have the biggest impact but the loss to Miami was top 3 worst loss in the McBeane era. That game could end up costing us a Superbowl because this team as a 1 seed, needing two wins at home vs this playoff field, would almost feel like a lock to win the AFC. Edited 2 hours ago by Process Quote
GunnerBill Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 13 hours ago, RiotAct said: Pats… however, the loss against Miami was inexcusable. Meh, not sure I agree. Losing on the road to a divisional opponent can happen, even when you are more talented than them. The Brady Patriots had a relatively poor record in Miami actually. Despite mainly facing three inept franchises I think the Patriots dynasty swept the AFC East just five times in 20 years. 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Pats gives us back the division, and maybe even home field. Selfishly, I'd say the Falcons since I went to that game and it suuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked. And so do the Falcons. I think the Falcons is our worst loss of the year. 100%. The Patriots one hurts most in terms of impact on the season, but the Falcons defeat was diabolical. 1 Quote
Process Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Meh, not sure I agree. Losing on the road to a divisional opponent can happen, even when you are more talented than them. The Brady Patriots had a relatively poor record in Miami actually. Despite mainly facing three inept franchises I think the Patriots dynasty swept the AFC East just five times in 20 years. I think the Falcons is our worst loss of the year. 100%. The Patriots one hurts most in terms of impact on the season, but the Falcons defeat was diabolical. Disagree with you strongly on this one GB (they were both awful losses). I think you even said yourself after the Miami game it was one of the worst losses we've had under Sean? We didn't score a point until 12 minutes left in the 4Q. Against a bottom tier defense that was riddled by injuries. At least vs the Falcons we can point to Ulbrich historically owning Josh Allen. Can't really comprehend the Miami game. Still blows my mind. Edited 2 hours ago by Process 1 Quote
JMM Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I remember thinking before the Pat's game that it was BIG. Beat them and they put a strangle hold on the division and important to get the 1 overall seed. And I KNEW that Pat's were coming in thinking this was a measuring stick for them and with a very motivated Diggs. So NO WAY the Bills wouldn't be ready. And then they came out and played one of their worst games at home in several years. Sigh... Quote
GunnerBill Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Process said: Disagree with you strongly on this one GB (they were both awful losses). I think you even said yourself after the Miami game it was one of the worst losses we've had under Sean? We didn't score a point until 12 minutes left in the 4Q. Against a bottom tier defense that was riddled by injuries. At least vs the Falcons we can point to Ulbrich historically owning Josh Allen. Can't really comprehend the Miami game. Still blows my mind. It was a dreadful performance, no doubt. But divisional road losses to inferior teams can happen - we see it every year across the league. Quote
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