Route Design

[Riverboat Ritchie]

Is the issue with Brady offense his route design for plays or that he does not give enough flexibility or design options to WRs to run routes for majority of zone defense that they seem to face.  Is Gabe our best WR now for Josh to be able to find holes in zone and sit?  Are they just bad at running routes and shaking the defender?  

[ScotSHO]

Houston played a lot of press man, I believe.  The best routes don't work when receivers can't run away from the defender.

[ngbills]

Hard to say without seeing full tape. But it often looks like the routes are awful. Multiple players in same area, very slow developing, guys never seem to be full speed, 

[Big Turk]

I'd say Brady doesn't have the nuances that other teams have that make these routes successful. 

 

Let's be real, most route concepts are widely used. It's the nuances and the little things that are different within them that change on a game to game basis that helps offenses stay ahead of the defenses that see the same things on game film.

 

Brady isn't good enough in this area and he doesn't create enough opportunities in this way for his WRs.

[artmalibu]

The WRs are not being in a position to be successful.  They arnt the greatest but are better than they have looked.  

 

Plenty of speed but do you see it?

 

Shavers 4.38

Moore 4.35

Samual 4.31

palmer 4.52

[Warriorspikes51]

Greg Cosell was extremely critical of our concepts.  If I recall,  "elementary" was used

[Riverboat Ritchie]

I know everyone is in love with the Rams now....and for good reason, but watched them motion Puka and then have him start route going through C gap was brilliant and seemed so well designed.  Definitely a bit envious.  

[Sweats]

4 minutes ago, artmalibu said:

The WRs are not being in a position to be successful.  They arnt the greatest but are better than they have looked.  

 

Plenty of speed but do you see it?

 

Shavers 4.38

Moore 4.35

Samual 4.31

palmer 4.52

 

 

 

 

I don't see ole Molasses Coleman on your list.

[BuffaloBillyG]

I wish this was a joke...but the plays on the Madden Bills team are so much better drawn up than what we run. 

[SCBills]

It’s been said we got rid of choice routes, where the WR & QB need to be on the same page in making adjustments to the route based on the look the defense gives. 
 

So now we’re running all locked routes, meaning simplified.. you run the route how it’s designed, no matter what.  
 

[Yobogoya!]

5 minutes ago, artmalibu said:

The WRs are not being in a position to be successful.  They arnt the greatest but are better than they have looked.  

 

Plenty of speed but do you see it?

 

Shavers 4.38

Moore 4.35

Samual 4.31

palmer 4.52

 

Our coaching staff in general doesn't seem to be much for scheming to any specific players' strength. They have concepts and packages they like and it's up to the player to execute or not. 

 

For example, drafting Elam (man corner) and asking him to play mostly zone. Drafting Coleman (big slot/wr2) and asking him to be our primary boundary option. Or, you know, taking the most athletically gifted QB in history and asking him to execute a dink and dunk small ball offense. 

 

I have zero confidence our receivers are being put in their best situations to succeed. 

[ProcessTruster]

this board has hit rock bottom in terms of negativity during this particular "after-a-loss" down cycle

 

I've scanned through a ton of posts looking for some new information and all I see is vitriol.   the typical "fire everyone" usually dies down after a day or two, but we are what, six days out and it has only gotten worse

 

might be time for some posters to turn in their "fan cards" as they don't seem to be able to take the heat in the kitchen

[nosejob]

28 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Greg Cosell was extremely critical of our concepts.  If I recall,  "elementary" was used

Best play of the year was Da Hook n Ladder. Do dat.   How about a flea flicker?   More Cookie down the sideline. Hang a basket on the goal post and send Keon in there. Ally oop it.  Not that difficult....

Edited 41 minutes ago by nosejob

[Yobogoya!]

6 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

this board has hit rock bottom in terms of negativity during this particular "after-a-loss" down cycle

 

I've scanned through a ton of posts looking for some new information and all I see is vitriol.   the typical "fire everyone" usually dies down after a day or two, but we are what, six days out and it has only gotten worse

 

might be time for some posters to turn in their "fan cards" as they don't seem to be able to take the heat in the kitchen

 

This is a pretty tough season to swallow our usual "play down to the competition" losses, because the AFC was so wide open and we managed to beat both of our main nemesis' (Ravens and Chiefs) which would give us the tie breaker over both. 

 

I think the schematic criticisms and lack-of-talent criticisms are pretty well founded, and with all the injuries stockpiling up we're now in the midst of watching what's basically a "dud" year in Josh Allen's prime. Our coordinators feel like dead men walking. Recent draft picks range from "TDB" to "99% bust". 

 

Can't imagine why people are morose right now, lol.

[artmalibu]

30 minutes ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

 

I don't see ole Molasses Coleman on your list.

 

I think you know why. lol

 

But they could have put 3 speed guys, 1 decent rout runner and a good jump ball guy on the field at one time and throw to the mismatch.  

[gobills404]

23 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

this board has hit rock bottom in terms of negativity during this particular "after-a-loss" down cycle

 

I've scanned through a ton of posts looking for some new information and all I see is vitriol.   the typical "fire everyone" usually dies down after a day or two, but we are what, six days out and it has only gotten worse

 

might be time for some posters to turn in their "fan cards" as they don't seem to be able to take the heat in the kitchen

Username checks out

 

[Andy1]

Most analysts think they have simple, repetitive schemes the use in various personnel formations and down/distance. Opposing DCs have them figured out.