Psautcsk Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, BigAl2526 said: The Bills are betting on Brandin Cooks. I think as much as anything, Moore is the victim of a numbers game. He doesn't have enough production to make him indispensable and if they cut Curtis Samuel it's more of a cap hit. Moore is younger than both of those guys and had Brady figured out how to make effective use of him, he could have been part of some longer range plans, but that's how it goes sometimes. This is a perfect Patriots signing. Imagine Diggs, Hollins and Moore on the field in a 2 minute drive against the Bills at the end of the game? You know how that would end. 1 Quote
That's No Moon Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, harmonkillebrew said: Moore could have been a good addition, if we didn't already have Samuel and Shakir. We didn't really need another slot guy Speaking of another poor evaluation and acquisition. If any of you kids every want to be GMs, learn the lesson. Never sign skill players with bad feet. It never gets better. 3 minutes ago, Psautcsk said: This is a perfect Patriots signing. Imagine Diggs, Hollins and Moore on the field in a 2 minute drive against the Bills at the end of the game? You know how that would end. With TreVeyon Henderson running for a 70 yard touchdown? 2 Quote
Pecker Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said: There isn't enough separation (no pun intended) between Moore, Coleman, and Samuel to disregard the trade potential in the off-season (a minimal return is better than nothing) or room for growth as a Slot (haven't tried that yet) in Coleman and the cap they'd save by releasing Samuel after this season. Again, I don't understand what you're seeing in Moore. He's been equally as bad as Coleman and Samuel this season, if not moreso. As bad as things have gotten with Coleman - his Week 1 was equivalent to Moore's entire season. It was t just me. Many posters in many post game threads praised Moore and said he earned more snaps. Which he did. He will probably go to a playoff team and contribute, and we bills fans will say “wtf Brady/beane/whomever!?!?” Quote
WideNine Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago The Bills heavily invested in TEs and really leaned into the 13 personnel and running the ball under Joe Brady last season to limit the sacks, hits, and turnovers and running for his life that Allen was doing under Dorsey. Why they go out and get receivers they are not going to schematically use effectively is beyond me, but I think they were hoping for a true X receiver when they drafted Coleman who could compete and win at the boundary against man coverage when we were in more 13 personnel looks and that never surfaced. Samual seems injured, underused, and a schematic outlier since he got here. I felt the same way about Moore and to a degree Palmer. Brady seems ready to admit to needing some more schematic flexibility away from the 13 personnel looks and was trying to use more 11 and 12 personnel and some empty sets last week, but then the OL craps the bed in pass pro against the Texans and our receivers struggled getting open (with any consistency) Not a whole lot of identity for this unit when I think we all felt pretty good early when our running game was carrying them. They needed to make room and although I think Samuel has arguably done less with more time than Moore, they paid him too much and the cap hit for letting him go is larger - 2.5 vs 12+ million dead cap hit. Curtis Samuel (Buffalo Bills) Contract: 3 years, $24 million (signed in 2024) 2025 Base Salary: $6.91 million 2025 Cap Hit: $9.07 million Guaranteed Money: $15.02 million Dead Cap if Released in 2025: Pre-June 1: $12.23 million (negative savings of about $3.17M) Post-June 1: $8.78 million in 2025 + $3.45 million in 2026 (saves only $280K in 2025) Elijah Moore Current Deal: 1-year, $2.5 million (with Bills for 2025 after leaving Browns) 2025 Cap Hit: $2.51 million Dead Cap if Released: $2.51 million (no savings) 1 Quote
Fan in Chicago Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Thoughts? meh Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, HappyDays said: What is there to know? He was the 34th pick in the draft and cut by his original team after two seasons. The Browns have a bad WR group and they also let him go after two seasons. His career is just about done at this point. He'll bounce around training camps and maybe practice squads for another couple of seasons and then the calls will stop coming. He's a small WR with a low catch radius and never developed the nuance necessary for a physically limited player to be successful. The 8 interceptions and the 40 something passer rating when targeted in 2024 basically made him toxic to the rest of the league. I said it when they signed him.........he's just not trustworthy. I'm sure the Bills thought a simple passing system would elevate him and maybe he'd be an asset in scramble drills but they were wrong. Quote
Your Brown Eye Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago He walked by me at training camp. That's about the extent of my opinion on the matter. 1 Quote
ChevyVanMiller Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Seeing as how Cooks was at practice today wearing #18, I think the Bills released Moore over Samuel just so Cooks would not have to pay him for the number. 1 Quote
jlatas Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, Jerry Jabber said: Had 61 receptions last season in Cleveland with 💩for QB’s, then only had 9 receptions in Buffalo? He was definitely misued by Brady! 43, 37, 59 and 61 in the first 4 years...now 9..you are right! One can assume some of these guys want out of Brady's system...so many of them not targeted or utilized. Nobody eats! They all are starving. Even Diggs starved after Brady took over. 1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Update to the story - Moore wanted more reps. They obviously felt he either didn't deserve it and/or Cooks had the potential to provide more. Either way, it's now being framed as a mutual parting of the ways. BBB spin, I'm sure Quote
3rdand12 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Because Bllls cannot gain much traction passing , I am starting to lose interest. Brady might do well to go back to heavy sets , running and passing to the TEs. Hawes says hello. all 3 RBs can catch and Shakir was playing very well. Brady and Co seemed to have either overthought week to week or situational ball. Or have become confused as the the Plan Tell me again why they shifted away from that and went to empty sets ? Quote
ProcessTruster Posted 57 minutes ago Posted 57 minutes ago Cooks can take his #18 now. About the only number under 20 left. Quote
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