Chaos Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Ken Burns is a good cinematographer. He is a bad historian. 2 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Chaos said: Ken Burns is a good cinematographer. He is a bad historian. What historical characterizations are you referring to? As for cinematography, most of his series are still photos or maps and such. They aren’t action films.
BillsFanNC Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Teef, The word is tag. Tag. I can't tag anyone because Simon. I can quote away. I just can't see anything you post UNLESS someone quotes you. Maybe ask Simon to improve the ignore feature such that it includes quoted content and then I'll never see anything at all that you or the rest of your merry band of leftist morons posts. Finding has trouble grasping this concept as well.
Andy1 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago I’m a few hours into this series. Seems well done and gives a much greater understanding of the events of the time. It’s interesting how the events impacted both the Native Americans and African slaves. About 5000 free slaves fought with the continental army. In Virginia, many slaves ran away to British boats as they were given the promise of freedom by the Brits. The British used the men for an Ethiopian regiment. The Declaration of Independence was embraced by those who weren’t truly free as they hoped for a better future. Hard to see how any of this is objectionable to anyone. 1 1
The Frankish Reich Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago I've watched Ep 1. It was good. I learned some things, took a moment to rethink some things. Well worth watching the whole thing. Disagreement? Let's let some scholars raise some points, and then we'll argue about them like grown adults. 1
BillsFanNC Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago ⬆️ Teef, Can't see Finding's post above. Can't see it if you, Roundy or Quack quotes him either. I will see it however if anyone not already on my ignore list quotes him. I've explained this several times now for Finding too. He doesn't get it either.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 20 hours ago, pennstate10 said: I’ve only caught the first 5 hrs so far. But there is excellent coverage of how the Constitution and Bill of Rights were generated. One theme that emerges over and over again is that power should lie with legislators. Not the governor or chief executive. And that all men are equal. None above the law. Sort of the direct opposite of Trump If you approach a series like this objectively, it can be entertaining and enlightening. Still, it’s a story told by a storyteller. What’s the “true patriot” part about all this? 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 8 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: I've watched Ep 1. It was good. I learned some things, took a moment to rethink some things. Well worth watching the whole thing. Disagreement? Let's let some scholars raise some points, and then we'll argue about them like grown adults. Maga's neither trust nor believe scholars. 1
BillsFanNC Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 🎯 It all boils down to this for the left: 1. White people are bad. That said, @ryangrim, the post isn’t about the validity, to whatever degree, of the things Ken Burns decided to include in the opening of the documentary. It’s about propaganda, which is always built around lies, half truths and truth, all carefully interwoven to create a narrative. Propaganda works by controlling the lens through which we see things. And for Ken Burns to frame the American Revolution in this way, right from the start, sets the stage for how the viewer interprets everything that comes after. So for example, the smallest amount of truth, like “the Iroquois had a confederacy” morphs into “it was used as a model for America” while leaving out the more important structural influences, including the very system of government used by Britain at the time. Or “Ben Franklin referenced the Iroquois in his writings” becomes “influenced,” while leaving out the far more influential thinkers that had an impact on all the founders. This combination of lies, half truths, truth, along with deliberate omissions, especially at the start of the documentary, are what make this propaganda.
TH3 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 19 hours ago, teef said: Ahh. Did you come back because you thought someone was trying to stick up for you? It’s amazing that you think my Saturday is “playing it up”. Amazing things happens when you use your own thoughts. And so not to derail this thread, I have to agree. People are quick dismissing this work based on someone else’s opinions. I doubt nursesclothing even read what he’s agreeing with. This is the same group that couldn’t bring themselves to watch the new Superman movie. Everything is an issue. It’s soooo stupid because I watched some and there to think there is a theme of “white man bad” is such a reach…it’s not even worth responding to. How effing maga can take a show that shows the progress to freedom…everything the “think” they are for and diss it….because PBS….just shows how hollow they really are. The whole Crispus Attucks and Lex Concord episode crazy. 2
SectionC3 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 20 hours ago, JDHillFan said: “Watch Ken Burns or I have to question your patriotism” is an interesting position. Also one that you invented, Anus Man. 17 hours ago, JDHillFan said: Will you be thinking about me as you are doing things to your wife’s face? You might as well. She will be. *apologies to my regular readership for taking such a common tack. Redhawk Jr kind of teed it up for me. This is a departure from your usual orifice of interest. 1
teef Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 12 hours ago, JFKjr said: Got it Karen. Wait…weren’t you the guy that was legit scared his son was going to be turned gay/trans by his college? How is that going? Any interesting men coming home for Thanksgiving? 1
JDHillFan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 12 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Also one that you invented, Anus Man. This is a departure from your usual orifice of interest. Thanks for checking in. Yes, it was a bit of an exaggeration. Similar in nature to your “inflation is extraordinary” earlier this week, with the exception that you were not just exaggerating but being disingenuous. Idiotic perhaps. Either way, don’t forget to smash the like button! respectfully, AM
teef Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 59 minutes ago, TH3 said: It’s soooo stupid because I watched some and there to think there is a theme of “white man bad” is such a reach…it’s not even worth responding to. How effing maga can take a show that shows the progress to freedom…everything the “think” they are for and diss it….because PBS….just shows how hollow they really are. The whole Crispus Attucks and Lex Concord episode crazy. They’re arguing with other people opinions that are similar than theirs. No original though, just angst. I certainly wouldn’t call out a film if I didn’t see it. It’s being called rational. 1
JFKjr Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 58 minutes ago, teef said: Wait…weren’t you the guy that was legit scared his son was going to be turned gay/trans by his college? How is that going? Any interesting men coming home for Thanksgiving? I have one son who is in college and the other is working his first post-college job. They both had to deal with Libnut professors in college. I don't recall saying I was "scared" they were going to be "turned gay/trans" -- I don't know how you got that impression. A more notable issue was the professor who declared in class that if you weren't actively supporting BLM then you were a racist. 1
BillsFanNC Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 15 minutes ago, JFKjr said: I have one son who is in college and the other is working his first post-college job. They both had to deal with Libnut professors in college. I don't recall saying I was "scared" they were going to be "turned gay/trans" -- I don't know how you got that impression. A more notable issue was the professor who declared in class that if you weren't actively supporting BLM then you were a racist. Saying you have concerns about the ridiculous idea of pushing the trans agenda on CHILDREN in SCHOOL means that you're scared. In fact anything that people disagree with me on = fear. - teef
Andy1 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago For the MAGA doubters here, or those interested, here is the Senate Congressional Resolution 76: from the pre-woke year of 1987. This resolution recognizes the contributions the Iroquois Confederacy to the founding of our nation. Read document pages 12-16. Iroquois chiefs were in Philadelphia, speaking to congress during the Revolution, and in May to June, 1776. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-100shrg83712/pdf/CHRG-100shrg83712.pdf 1
pennstate10 Posted 56 minutes ago Author Posted 56 minutes ago 20 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: That's it. Triple down on woke! It will serve you well. Are you suggesting that acknowledging the fact that non-Europeans formed functional societies before the 18th century is “woke”? 1
BillsFanNC Posted 30 minutes ago Posted 30 minutes ago 22 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: Are you suggesting that acknowledging the fact that non-Europeans formed functional societies before the 18th century is “woke”? I'm not suggesting anything. I'm stating as fact that describing the revolution through the lens of DEI/critical theory is the very foundation of wokism. As such the only interest I have in this documentary is to call it out for the cultural Marxist influenced crap that it is.
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