Time to Rebuild? Too Many Beane Holes.

[dcinmuncie]

9 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Well he could hypothetically just pick the new gm.  Again.  Someone there's chemistry with.  Maybe that pool opened up more since he started wearing the Lisa Loeb glasses.

 

Lisa loeb glasses 

 

lmao!! Love it

[MarlinTheMagician]

1 hour ago, Nuncha said:

The best WR in the world wouldn't have helped Josh last night the way the O-line played.  They were absolutely awful, Dawkins was pathetic.

They were bad, Brown hurt of course.  But a quick separator would have helped a lot.  We have no one that bails him out. 

[davefan66]

3 hours ago, Shortchaz said:

They’re not doing anything drastic with the new stadium opening next year imo. 

What scares me is what is the motivation to put a good product on the field with a new stadium?  Guaranteed sellouts moving forward with the PSL’s.

[Shortchaz]

53 minutes ago, T.E. said:

I have. I think almost nothing would rejuvenate the fan base more than bringing in fresh blood and a second set of eyes regarding this team. I can't imagine how low the overall mood and level of enthusiasm will be if we decide to run it back again with the same philosophy and players.

I get that perspective and am hopeful something drastic happens but I don’t think it will. 
 

Since the Pegulas took ownership and hired beane as GM the value of the bills has, something like, doubled. 

[MarlinTheMagician]

I have been critical of many of Beane's picks (Coleman and Elam especially), but one counterpoint - drafting last or near it for six straight years makes it hard to stay on top.  The Texans got 50 draft picks for Watson, they should have some players. 

[26TrapDraw]

If im Josh i walk into Pegulas office and tell him this crap dies t work for me. Time for a real team. If there are no changes I will sit on my ass and not play. I’m not getting hurt for these marshmallow soft dbags anymore. There needs to be change. Now

 

like Stevie said. It’s time for Josh to be an #######.

[billsfan714]

Exit interviews should be interesting at the end of the season.  

[Niagara Dude]

4 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Too much dead cap.  
 

A “rebuild” is not in the cards for this team unless you can tell us how we can operate with 40 plus million in cap space starting in 2027.  
 

By then, that’s 2 more years of Josh wasted.  
 

 

And why finding replacements for Beane and McD will be tricky - new regime isn’t inheriting a team with 100 mill in cap space. 
 

It will be inheriting a roster of old overpaid jags that may not match their philosophy.  
 

 

 

This is fast approaching a complete catastrophe.  

The cap situation for 2026 is a huge problem,  most likely the reason why Beane did not want to trade 2026 first for Waddle

 

Knox- 17m

Milano-11m

Dawkins-25m

Samuel-9.7m

Johnson-11.5m

 

You have a mediocre TE Knox making 17 mil and expect to have cap space to pay a #1 receiver,  not sure how they can expect to improve without tanking for a least one season

Edited 4 hours ago by Niagara Dude

[BVBILLS]

Terrible cap management-trying to keep the band together... Only led to a soft, complacent team

[Figster]

4 hours ago, OutOfBubbleGum said:

What are the ultimate trade away options if Buffalo calls it a rebuild process?

The Bills have been in a rebuilding process IMO.

[GunnerBill]

42 minutes ago, Luka said:

 How exactly has that worked over 3 decades and multiple coaching staffs? Sounds like their coaching staff might be required to be a bit more flexible and use the talent that Newsome drafts... 

 

So the guy I speak to has only been on staff in the DaCosta regime. So I can't speak to Newsome but Newsome is a Belichick protege and he was famous for player specifications and the smallest draft board in the NFL. 

[Luka]

14 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

So the guy I speak to has only been on staff in the DaCosta regime. So I can't speak to Newsome but Newsome is a Belichick protege and he was famous for player specifications and the smallest draft board in the NFL. 

 

I guess the bottom line is, whoever is allegedly in charge of the circus at OBD needs to go. Too many misses in the draft and in free agency.

[GunnerBill]

29 minutes ago, Luka said:

 

I guess the bottom line is, whoever is allegedly in charge of the circus at OBD needs to go. Too many misses in the draft and in free agency.

 

I don't think it is fair to call it a circus. They haven't been a clown show. They have been professional and methodical. It just hasn't worked and/or they haven't quite been good enough.

[Luka]

6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I don't think it is fair to call it a circus. They haven't been a clown show. They have been professional and methodical. It just hasn't worked and/or they haven't quite been good enough.

 

Well the ongoing saga with Coleman, the handling of Elam publicly last year, it makes me think that if the curtain is pulled tightly but somehow the dysfunction is still visible, it's a circus. You had Beane going on the radio in the offseason and having a childish meltdown because he was (correctly) criticized for not trying to get a weapon or two for his MVP quarterback. 

 

I've worked enough in corporate America to know this alleged "professionalism" is simply a large marketing department and PR team keeping the wraps on things.

[L Ron Burgundy]

1 hour ago, 26TrapDraw said:

If im Josh i walk into Pegulas office and tell him this crap dies t work for me. Time for a real team. If there are no changes I will sit on my ass and not play. I’m not getting hurt for these marshmallow soft dbags anymore. There needs to be change. Now

 

like Stevie said. It’s time for Josh to be an #######.

Yeah he won't.  Not his nature plus he's working a consecutive games played streak.

[gonzo1105]

I just think that Beane needs to shift his philosophy. Start going with size and speed. I can live with that. They are not going to give up on the character aspect. I’d just tell McDermott that it’s not working with the 220 LBs and the 190 pound Nickel that have average athleticism. 
 

He needs to start focusing on skill players. If you truly believe Kromer is the guy you believe he is, and he is damn good, then he should be able to develop a couple of cheap offensive lineman and reallocate those resources to getting a WR or two that can actually make a difference in this offense for Allen 

[L Ron Burgundy]

Just now, gonzo1105 said:

I just think that Beane needs to shift his philosophy. Start going with size and speed. I can live with that. They are not going to give up on the character aspect. I’d just tell McDermott that it’s not working with the 220 LBs and the 190 pound Nickel that have average athleticism. 
 

He needs to start focusing on skill players. If you truly believe Kromer is the guy you believe he is, and he is damn good, then he should be able to develop a couple of cheap offensive lineman and reallocate those resources to getting a WR or two that can actually make a difference in this offense for Allen 

Yeah agree with a lot here.  Plus I think we drafted need instead of bpa a couple years in early rounds and it hurt.

[GunnerBill]

20 minutes ago, Luka said:

 

Well the ongoing saga with Coleman, the handling of Elam publicly last year, it makes me think that if the curtain is pulled tightly but somehow the dysfunction is still visible, it's a circus. You had Beane going on the radio in the offseason and having a childish meltdown because he was (correctly) criticized for not trying to get a weapon or two for his MVP quarterback. 

 

I've worked enough in corporate America to know this alleged "professionalism" is simply a large marketing department and PR team keeping the wraps on things.

 

I don't see any of that as dysfunction personally - except probably for Beane's radio appearance. That, in isolation, I agree was a clown show. Benching Keon and criticising Elam isn't. It is just managing under performance. 

 

I think for the most part this regime has been professional, competent and buttoned up. It just hasn't been good enough in the big moments.

[26TrapDraw]

1 hour ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Yeah he won't.  Not his nature plus he's working a consecutive games played streak.

Maybe so but he has a right to. What a Greek tragedy this team has become

[Luka]

8 minutes ago, 26TrapDraw said:

Maybe so but he has a right to. What a Greek tragedy this team has become

 

We are the Aaron Rodgers led Packers in the latter part of his career there. Middling coach who looks good enough with a Hall of Fame QB, no weapons for said QB in sight, wash, rinse and repeat.