If Missing the Playoffs Is What it Will Take for Change, Would You Welcome It?

[BillsShredder83]

2 hours ago, zow2 said:

Honestly, the only people that *want* to miss the playoffs for the sake of change are just trying to make themselves feel better in the event the Bills choke and don't get in.

Nope. Were talent depleted. Remember the 8 - 8 drought era Bills. Stuck in purgatory, never bottoming out. 

 

We've kinda been there at a higher level of that... 2nd rd purgatory. Each year picking 26th-30th.... not acquiring the needed talent to get over the hump, and now picking that late has added up to deplete us.

 

This team is incredibly flawed. Were injury prone. Those players that miss the most games, cost us the most, and hurt us the most being on the bench. It's a non working formula.

 

Josh is almost 30. We can sit in purgatory hoping for a perfect storm of conditions to allow us to win... or step back, tear down the crappy pieces.... get some younger/healthier/cheaper talent in to replace them.... do it once, do it right. Give Josh a real chance

[Lost]

12 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Nope. Were talent depleted. Remember the 8 - 8 drought era Bills. Stuck in purgatory, never bottoming out. 

 

We've kinda been there at a higher level of that... 2nd rd purgatory. Each year picking 26th-30th.... not acquiring the needed talent to get over the hump, and now picking that late has added up to deplete us.

 

This team is incredibly flawed. Were injury prone. Those players that miss the most games, cost us the most, and hurt us the most being on the bench. It's a non working formula.

 

Josh is almost 30. We can sit in purgatory hoping for a perfect storm of conditions to allow us to win... or step back, tear down the crappy pieces.... get some younger/healthier/cheaper talent in to replace them.... do it once, do it right. Give Josh a real chance

 

You're absolutely right.   However, we shoulda been able to stay on top longer than we have.   Drafting 1st round busts is a sure fire way to have the house of cards come collapsing down sooner than it should.   Thanks Beane

[wppete]

 

[HamptonBillsfan]

Sorry, missing the playoffs probably won’t do it. The Pegulas won’t start a whole new regime with the new stadium. He also knows in our division a new OC and a few FAs could do the trick with Josh as QB.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Is there no option for I won’t welcome it but I’m not attached to the coach/gm either 😂I feel like that would be the most popular answer if I had to guess 

[Sojourner]

19 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Sorry, missing the playoffs probably won’t do it. The Pegulas won’t start a whole new regime with the new stadium. He also knows in our division a new OC and a few FAs could do the trick with Josh as QB.

Youre probably right but if ever there was a scenario where it would happen, missing the playoffs would and should be it. 

[ShakAttack]

We hired McDermott and Beane at a time Buffalo had to be one of the least attractive jobs in the NFL.

 

Fast forward 8-9 years into the Josh Allen era...

 

I'm willing to bet there are highly qualified candidates willing to leave their jobs to get a chance at building around one of the NFL's Top 3 QBs in his prime.

 

I would love to see what our options are, and I would hate to waste another season with

- Another year of bad defense despite being led by a defensive minded HC
- More assistant coach promotions from within
- Missing on draft picks 
- At LEAST 1 more game lost because coaching blew it in high leverage situations
- etc

Can't have it anymore. We need to be leveraging the fact that these positions would be coveted by some of the best coaches and GMs in the country.

[Billsfanatic8989]

If that is what it takes for change--sure. My guess is they sneak into the postseason, maybe get lucky and win a game, then flame out in the divisional round. 

 

And.....Everyone Returns!!!

 

 

[Billsfanatic8989]

40 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Sorry, missing the playoffs probably won’t do it. The Pegulas won’t start a whole new regime with the new stadium. He also knows in our division a new OC and a few FAs could do the trick with Josh as QB.

That is an absolutely ridiculous reason to keep people employed. Yet...probably one he will use to justify they return. 

 

 

[Puckman5]

Why take on the challenge of change when you're getting $10M per year to keep doing the same old thing.  I'm always wary of leaders that think their "process" is king.   Keep following the process until it actually works so you can satisfy your own ego.  Sadly McDermott hasn't been a bad leader through this tenure, he's just stubborn and stuck on following his own mantra while the league continues to roll on.  He can't or won't adapt.  If he doesn't have the players to fit his system to a T, he keeps pushing and hoping it'll all click at some point e point.  He should have learned that even if he gets the "right" players, injuries can impact the course of the season drastically.  New crew, same tired old plans.  

 

[gonzo1105]

My answer is No, I want to win. Didn’t see that as an option in the poll

[Gugny]

8 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

My answer is No, I want to win. Didn’t see that as an option in the poll

There are three such options. Saying “no” to missing the playoffs = saying “I want to win.”

 

[Bill from NYC]

Actually this is a really good question imo. My answer however is not listed. I want the Bills to make the playoffs AND I want McDermott fired. If Beane has to go as well so be it. And I do get it....if they make the playuoffs and win the Super Bowl, why SHOULD they be fired?

 

I am an Alabama Crimson Tide Fan. If they win on Saturday, they will be in the playoffs. Do I think that they are the best team in the NCAA? Not at all. Not this year. That said, they are good. Their defense is looking MUCH better than early in the season. If they get in the playoffs, things can happen on their team and their opponents teams to make winning at least a bit plausible.

 

It's the same in some ways with the Bills. We have Josh Allen. He is great and can make things happen. If the OL plays up to their potential he will throw TD passes and Cook will also kick ass. If we get a few breaks, who knows? Coming into the season I thought that the Eagles and Lions were great. Now, they only look good. Things change.

 

Anyway once again, good post. The above tedius post is jmo.

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo ill]

Some folks are ok with just being pretty good.  They call those of us who are not satisfied "entitled".  They are probably the same ones who drool over the afc championship trophies from the 90s.

 

Then there are those of is who aren't content with being the Mike Tomlin steelers for the next 20 years, and are willing to risk changing things up.

[Gugny]

14 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Actually this is a really good question imo. My answer however is not listed. I want the Bills to make the playoffs AND I want McDermott fired. If Beane has to go as well so be it. And I do get it....if they make the playuoffs and win the Super Bowl, why SHOULD they be fired?

 

I am an Alabama Crimson Tide Fan. If they win on Saturday, they will be in the playoffs. Do I think that they are the best team in the NCAA? Not at all. Not this year. That said, they are good. Their defense is looking MUCH better than early in the season. If they get in the playoffs, things can happen on their team and their opponents teams to make winning at least a bit plausible.

 

It's the same in some ways with the Bills. We have Josh Allen. He is great and can make things happen. If the OL plays up to their potential he will throw TD passes and Cook will also kick ass. If we get a few breaks, who knows? Coming into the season I thought that the Eagles and Lions were great. Now, they only look good. Things change.

 

Anyway once again, good post. The above tedius post is jmo.

 

 

 

 

You make a great point, Bill. 
 

Another early playoff (before the AFCCG) exit - to me - is still grounds for dismissal. 
 

If this pathetic roster gets to the AFCCG, then I would have no choice but to give McDermott some credit. 
 

To that point, I think Beane is an utter failure and if I was presented with a “one goes/one stays” option, I’d choose Beane to go without blinking an eye. 
 

Brandin f*cking Cooks?   Are you f*cking kidding me?

 

Beane sucks. 

[Mike R]

I would like to see them go on a run and win the SuperBowl but that really doesn’t seem possible with the team we have watched for 11 weeks now. The McBeanes now are signing ex players that are way past their prime thinking that will somehow stop the bleeding. How are Poyer, Shaq Lawson, Gabe Davis and Phillips going to help improve this team? The NFL thought so much of them none of them were on a roster. Now they signed Brandon Cooks to the team. Another player no one wants. With no cap space why are they signing washed up vets? They could easily poach young players with possible potential for cheap off 31 other teams practice squad. Or how about playing the young guys on your own team to give them some experience and see what they have? I think if the Bills lose to the Steelers that the wheels will fall off. If this resulted in McD and Beane being fired then good. Hire the rams or philadelphias assistant gm’s and start over. The McBeanes are never winning anything. They are destroying the Bills.

[Bill from NYC]

38 minutes ago, Gugny said:

You make a great point, Bill. 
 

Another early playoff (before the AFCCG) exit - to me - is still grounds for dismissal. 
 

If this pathetic roster gets to the AFCCG, then I would have no choice but to give McDermott some credit. 
 

To that point, I think Beane is an utter failure and if I was presented with a “one goes/one stays” option, I’d choose Beane to go without blinking an eye. 
 

Brandin f*cking Cooks?   Are you f*cking kidding me?

 

Beane sucks. 

The only place where we may differ is that I hold McDermott at least equally reponsible for the ridiculous drafts. In 2025 our first five picks were defense, this on a team with substandard wrs, and an all time great QB playing behind an aging OL. Remember, McDermott is the defensive coach, and he traded away the Mahomes pick in order to draft a freaking cornerback before Beane even arrived in Buffalo. This move was comparable to Marv Levy's 2006 draft, one of the worst, most idiotic in NFL history. I think it is totally unfair to only blame Beane for this mess.

 

McDermott does seem pretty daring when it comes to going for it on 4th downs, and why not? Josh Allen is his QB. When it comes to team building (not coaching), McDermott is a bald, clapping version of Marv Levy. Marv is a great man and was  a good coach for a while. He was not a good GM.

[Walking Tall]

I think the only way there will be a regime change is if #17 voices displeasure to Pegula directly or through his agent.