I was at the game and let me tell you what was happening downfield

[Einstein]

3 hours ago, Dafan said:

My problem is, on the 1 pass to win the game, Knox was totally uncovered on the left sideline for a walk in TD.  And Allen threw the ball to Palmer, double covered not even 5 yards of Knox.  Whatever Brady had screwed up the rest of the game...that play was on Allen.

 

That play was designed to go to Palmer. He was the read the whole way.

 

Knox was supposed to set a pick for Palmer but he was a step too slow getting there.

 

Not to mention it wouldn’t have counted due to Gabe’s OPI.

[Nihilarian]

McDermott has a tough decision to make regarding Joe Brady, and if he were a past OC, I'm certain he would be taking over the offensive play-calling.

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, dickleyjones said:

the offense scored 12 points. 20 would have done it.

 

The flow of the game was impacted by the 1st half defensive performance. We got into FG range and didn't kick because we were playing catch up.

[SCBills]

Just now, HappyDays said:

 

The flow of the game was impacted by the 1st half defensive performance. We got into FG range and didn't kick because we were playing catch up.

Ultimately, if the Offense scores 12 points, it’s on the Offense. 
 

But I agree.. going into half up 16-13 or even 16-16 and it’s likely a very different game out of halftime. 
 

Having to play from behind with how limited we are in offensive personnel and brainpower, against that Defense, put us in chase mode and allowed a Mills led Offense to sit on a lead, never risking mistake. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

This just cements to me the stupidity of the game plan. Why are we trying to run long developing routes and looking for big passing plays AGAINST THIS DEFENSE? 
 

I would have trotted out there 13 personnel, and run heavy set runs, quick dump offs, etc. The only way the Texans beat us is through their defense and special teams/field position. We let them do it by producing so many negative plays on offense.  

[henry jones]

I could only watch the second half... Did they even attempt a basic RB screen?  Not the quick bubble screen to Shakir, which doesn't work anymore... The best way to slow pressure is to use their pass rush against them.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Just now, henry jones said:

I could only watch the second half... Did they even attempt a basic RB screen?  Not the quick bubble screen to Shakir, which doesn't work anymore... The best way to slow pressure is to use their pass rush against them.

they haven’t run a successful RB screen since Chan gailey was the head coach.

[henry jones]

1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

they haven’t run a successful RB screen since Chan gailey was the head coach.

They (Brady) needs to at least try it.  Get Cook out in space

[Nihilarian]

Buffalo QB Coach Ronald Curry an option to be the offensive passing game planning assistant? 

 

Marc Lubick

Buffalo Passing Game Specialist/Game Management. Looks like he isn't getting it done or needs more involvement with the current play calling.

 

No idea what the answer is...

[DapperCam]

17 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

This just cements to me the stupidity of the game plan. Why are we trying to run long developing routes and looking for big passing plays AGAINST THIS DEFENSE? 
 

I would have trotted out there 13 personnel, and run heavy set runs, quick dump offs, etc. The only way the Texans beat us is through their defense and special teams/field position. We let them do it by producing so many negative plays on offense.  

It’s because Joe Brady has this dumb philosophy where he thinks we can impose our will on defenses.

 

Why didn’t we have a playbook full of blitz beating plays against the Falcons? Same reason. It’s arrogance and probably just a lack of competence.

[Nitro]

10 hours ago, Einstein said:

Forgot to mention one other thing; Our receiving options don’t seem to know what to do when Allen scrambles. They mostly just stay still or move only slightly. I don’t get it. They don’t come back toward the ball, or try to shake their defender. 

 

Actually Shakir did a little, but everyone else? Just … statues for the most

part.

That is coaching right there.  Position coach and OC have to drill it until they get it to be second nature.  

[Kelly to Allen]

7 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

What a lot of Bills fans don't get is that the offense the Buffalo Bills run is the very same one that won so many Super Bowls for the Patriots, and in fact, they are still using it.

 

The Patriots didn't have a dominant #1 WR for quite a few seasons, and they faced the same sort of defenses that Buffalo has faced this year. The difference being that they would just move the chains to get first down after first down and then hit Gronk in the end zone.

 

Joe Brady attempts to call deep passes to receivers that aren't open with a line that doesn't give Allen enough time to take 5-7 step drop-backs. This same problem occurred against the crappy Atlanta Falcons and Miami Dolphins. McD needs to make a change, and it isn't benching Keon Coleman! 

 

That may be true but we have a much worse coach and defense.

 

This team also didn't already get over the psychological hurdle of winning a championship. They still haven't gotten over the hump and the cycle has already passed 

 

They need to pivot to a shanahan archetype.

 

McDermott is not evolving bro

[Nitro]

The book on Brady is out there.  DCs are coaching up their defenders to the point where they are running the Bills routes.  It is aggravating to see not change in route trees.

[Fleezoid]

What I witnessed was Allen trying to win the game by himself with no WR support and certainly zero defensive support. In years past, when things were going poorly, Allen would just play football. Some of the other elements would step up and make big plays. We have none of that now and it’s making Allen play worse. The team and coaching staff is killing him.

 

In previous seasons, the Bills would finish strong at the end and we would see a sudden death in the playoffs. This year, it’s death by a thousand cuts. By the time the playoffs start, the Bills will have bled out.

Edited 6 hours ago by Fleezoid

[Psautcsk]

Just now, Fleezoid said:

What I witnessed was Allen trying to win the game by himself with no WR support and certainly zero defensive support. In years past, when things were going poorly, Allen would just play football. Some of the other elements would step up and make big plays. We have none of that now and it’s making Allen play worse. The team and coaching staff is killing him.

 

In previous seasons, the Bills would finish strong at the end and we would see a sudden death in the playoffs. This year, it’d death by a thousand cuts. By the time the playoffs start, the Bills will have bled out.

It will be interesting to see the injuries that Josh incurred in this game. I thought the one in the first half was a season ender. It is amazing that he is able to play week in and week out unlike so many others on this team.

[CincyBillsFan]

30 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Ultimately, if the Offense scores 12 points, it’s on the Offense. 
 

But I agree.. going into half up 16-13 or even 16-16 and it’s likely a very different game out of halftime. 
 

Having to play from behind with how limited we are in offensive personnel and brainpower, against that Defense, put us in chase mode and allowed a Mills led Offense to sit on a lead, never risking mistake. 

12 points would have been enough to win NE that Super Bowl against the Rams.

 

The offense did not play well in part because they were facing one of the best D's in the NFL on their home field and in part because the talent on the O outside of Allen & Cook is average at best.

 

 

 

 

[Einstein]

33 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

This just cements to me the stupidity of the game plan. Why are we trying to run long developing routes and looking for big passing plays AGAINST THIS DEFENSE? 

 

Agreed.

And to be clear, it was a mix of long developing routes and mesh concepts where we ran receivers underneath where the Texans appear to have known our exact plays and routes.

 

It was hard to watch. 

12 minutes ago, Nitro said:

The book on Brady is out there.  DCs are coaching up their defenders to the point where they are running the Bills routes. 

 

 

This.

We are running the EXACT same plays every week.

 

One example of this that any law person can see if the WR screens.

[GroteStreet]

10 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

12 points would have been enough to win NE that Super Bowl against the Rams.

 

The offense did not play well in part because they were facing one of the best D's in the NFL on their home field and in part because the talent on the O outside of Allen & Cook is average at best.

 

 

 

 

I think we all need to stop our bitchin about the wide receivers, after all the team did score a lot of points last year.

[DapperCam]

Just now, GroteStreet said:

I think we all need to stop our bitchin about the wide receivers, after all the team did score a lot of points last year.

Our #1 WR for the majority of last season was Cooper and he’s retired. The WR that led the team in scoring was Hollins and he plays for the Pats now.

 

It’s not like it’s the same guys out there.

[HardyBoy]

8 hours ago, Pete said:

“The Bills offense needed a drive. The unit had struggled throughout, but with 2:48 left in the game, the reigning MVP got the ball back at his own 18-yard line.”

 

just like Bills offense last 2 playoffs at the end of the game, and they struggled then too.  
 

Waddle for a 2026 1st would have solved that.  Miami agreed.  Beane wouldn’t pay 😡 

 

Beane might be anticipating a non zero chance that the wheels fall off this season (with the dline injuries they might have already) and 2026 might be the highest they're drafting in a while and for the foreseeable future...not saying they won't trade that pick, but Miami was probably valuing it at the very end of the draft and they would get much much more value when it's a known pick if it's in the mid or even upper 20s.