Weird Game for WRs

[hondo in seattle]

A week ago, right after the Fins game, if I were asked to predict how our receivers would perform against the Bucs, I would have never guessed...

 

*  Shavers would be the leading receiver;

*  Cook would be the second leading receiver;

*  Gabe would have more catches than all our normal starters (Shakir, Palmer, Coleman), who were all healthy;  

*  Coleman would watch the game in street clothes;

*  Latu would have more receiving yards (4) than Shakir (-3);  

*  I'd watch Josh throw deep to Mercole Hardman;

*  Hardman with 0 yards would also have more yards than Shakir.

 

But this strange game also saw Josh score 6 TDs in a critical victory, so I'm okay with the weirdness.  

 

[Goin Breakdown]

Well they do telegram any Shakir plays. 

[Livinginthepast]

One of the weirdest Bills games of the Allen era. I actually expected us to do better with Coleman out and we did! Shavers was excellent. Davis really contributed but the Shakir stat was really unexpected.

Edited 12 hours ago by Livinginthepast

[Blackbeard]

All VERY good rationale that Allen is the TRUE MVP. 

[Jerome007]

It was such a weird game. They couldn't get the run game going, even if trying, and went pass heavy, targeting WRs, not TEs and checkdowns. Even the pass game was up and down... yet it worked ha ha. The run D was awful... as usual, but everything else was just not what the Bills usually do. At least it's a W!

 

Edit: shoutout to the special teams return squad! Even that was unusual but sure appreciated. On D, Bosa, Walker and Bishop play well week in and week out. The rest...

Edited 12 hours ago by Jerome007

[Shortchaz]

9 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Well they do telegram any Shakir plays. 

Should try candygram 

[hondo in seattle]

5 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said:

One of the weirdest Bills games of the Allen era. I actually expected us to do better with Coleman out and we did! Shavers was excellent. Davis really contributed but the Shakir stat was really unexpected.

 

It'll be interesting to see how we use the WRs going forward.  Coleman didn't seem to add anything; we might be better with Gabe starting and Shavers backing him up.  And deploying Hardman as an occasional speed guy could add a new wrinkle.  

 

Our normal starters (Coleman, Palmer, Shakir) only accounted for 14 yards in a game we scored 44 points.  2nd teamers (Gabe, Shavers) totaled 130 yards.  I wonder how Brady and McD will process all this.  

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

The offense was great today. The rest is semantics 

[Slack_in_MA]

2 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

Should try candygram 

[JerseyBills]

I'll take 40 points and weird every week but I agree it was strange, the 3 turnovers as well, we had the turnover streak at 20 something going into this year 

 

[Tulsabillsfanz]

I think having Davis back was important. I hope he can help show the other WRs how to get open on the scramble drill.  To me, one of the biggest frustrations this season has been watching Josh extend plays & still unable to find an open receiver.  Before I read the “Josh isn’t seeing the open receiver “ response, I have watched replay after replay where no one is separating from their defender in any meaningful way. 

[Comebackkid]

17 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Well they do telegram any Shakir plays. 

or telegraph...lol

[Sojourner]

The personnel changes definitely made a difference but I feel the whole script was to win via the pass rather than weeks prior where we were contingent on running the ball. 
 

Good game all around. Nice to see the guys freshly given more or their first playing time step it up. 

[Shortchaz]

I haven’t watched the game yet, saw a few first quarter drives, seemed like the bills were running a two minute offense. Like, okay we heard the criticism about our passing offense so we’re going to run a spread offense out of shotgun and just whip it around the field. 
 

I still think the offense should be run first with the ability to go spread. I just don’t understand why it’s either spread gun or 12 tight power run. Isn’t there a happy balance in there that isn’t so predictable. 

Edited 12 hours ago by Shortchaz

[hondo in seattle]

While today's passing game wasn't as efficient as the Chiefs game, it produced more points.  And I'd like to see the same WRs suit up next week.

[WotAGuy]

13 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

Our normal starters (Coleman, Palmer, Shakir) only accounted for 14 yards in a game we scored 44 points.  2nd teamers (Gabe, Shavers) totaled 130 yards.  I wonder how Brady and McD will process all this.  

I know how Beane will process this; he’ll call into WGR and say “I told you so!”

[Maine-iac]

I'm not a Coleman fan so don't take this as such but Allen missed him on two deep tosses last week.  We hit the RB's for some big shots.  Not sure the WR's did anything that out of the ordinary or special compared to any other week.

[SoonerBillsFan]

Against Houston they need to lean into this.  I would open the game with 2 backs, Josh under center, play action deep.   Same play we almost hit Hartdman on

Edited 11 hours ago by SoonerBillsFan

[colin]

IMO this worked because with these new guys we just didn't do what we usually do.  Every te pass, every shakir play, and nearly every run was something we obviously ran before that tb was ready for, which is why it sucked the bag.  They knew Allen wanted to stand tall and throw to the middle, which he did to a fault at times.  He missed the back to the left on the 4th and short pick, and on some scrambles he looked passed guys to miss everyone.

 

Similarly on d, the zone void to the left WAS ALWAYS TARGETED IN CONVERSION DOWNS.  Either behind 7 or 58, who failed to get depth.  A couple times poyer saw this and raced in to fill it in, but it was a consistent issue

 

We have player issues, but we are simply too arrogant as a team at times.  We run the same ish thinking one one knows it.  We need to retool the run game and run the same play out of different formations and different plays out of the same formation way more.

 

During our bad offensive stretch, our EPA was still good generally, we just got figured out from time to time.  We need to be less of an open book

[Turbo44]

38 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

A week ago, right after the Fins game, if I were asked to predict how our receivers would perform against the Bucs, I would have never guessed...

 

*  Shavers would be the leading receiver;

*  Cook would be the second leading receiver;

*  Gabe would have more catches than all our normal starters (Shakir, Palmer, Coleman), who were all healthy;  

*  Coleman would watch the game in street clothes;

*  Latu would have more receiving yards (4) than Shakir (-3);  

*  I'd watch Josh throw deep to Mercole Hardman;

*  Hardman with 0 yards would also have more yards than Shakir.

 

But this strange game also saw Josh score 6 TDs in a critical victory, so I'm okay with the weirdness.  

 

Shakir isn’t anything close to healthy