Kirby Jackson Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) I do think that Beane and McDermott are in trouble but that’s irrelevant for this conversation. Stefanski/McDaniel/Webb for OC and Schwartz/Patricia for DC Edited 9 hours ago by Kirby Jackson 2 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted 9 hours ago Author Posted 9 hours ago 8 minutes ago, BearNorth said: Um Davis Webb? 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Stefanski/McDaniel/Webb for OC and Schwartz/Patricia for DC Davis Matthew Webb (born January 22, 1995) is an American professional football coach and former quarterback who is the Offensive Pass Game Coordinator and Quarterbacks Coach for the Denver Broncos of the National Football League (NFL). He played his first three seasons of college football for the Texas Tech Red Raiders and then the California Golden Bears, before being selected by the New York Giants in the third round of the 2017 NFL draft. In his seven seasons in the NFL, he was a member of all three franchises representing cities in New York, spending the most time with the Buffalo Bills. On February 23, 2023, Webb was hired by the Denver Broncos as their quarterbacks coach under head coach Sean Payton. Webb had expressed interest in transitioning to coaching duties, having been previously asked by the Bills to be their quarterbacks coach. Prior to the 2025 season, Webb was promoted to the position of offensive pass game coordinator following the departure of John Morton to the Detroit Lions. He retained his position as the quarterbacks coach, holding both roles simultaneously. Here's the guy who should be near the top of the list... he and Alex Tanney. And who thinks that these guys wouldn't jump at the chance to coach Josh Allen? Quote
Psautcsk Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 59 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I'm not so confident that Beane isn't on the hot seat He will be if the Pats reach the Super Bowl or beat KC in the playoffs. Quote
Urban Achievers Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Psautcsk said: He will be if the Pats reach the Super Bowl or beat KC in the playoffs. That would literally make me sick to my stomach. 😣 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: The coordinators are clearly operating within the existing system Swapping them out will not change much Exactly Quote
Sojourner Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I do think that Beane and McDermott are in trouble but that’s irrelevant for this conversation. Stefanski/McDaniel/Webb for OC and Schwartz/Patricia for DC Wouldn’t mind any of those combinations. Think if we are going to have any changes in the coordinator departments it’s only the OC due to Brady getting a job elsewhere; college or the league. Babich strikes me as a guy that will hang around given his fathers ties to McD for those 5 seasons. 1 Quote
Maynard Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago It’s time to rip the bandaid off and start fresh. Quote
GoBills808 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: There are a lot of Bills fans who believe as you guys believe, that McBeane won't change. But what if the Bills are eliminated in the Wild Card Round? Faced with a fan and media mutiny, that might change... no? I think McDermott has tried to change though I don't know what degree of change he's actually capable of. For instance, would McDermott be capable of approaching Brian Daboll this offseason and saying, "Hey it didn't work out the first time as well as it could have. I need you and you need me. Let's see if we can lay down some ground rules and try this again." Awaiting the one-word answer... 😆 I love the idea of these guys because I believe the organization lacks enough guys like Fitz and Kyle who aren't afraid to speak up when things need to be said. But the Bills are a very conservative organization, top to bottom. I don't think it's realistic. I think if you go back and listen to what McDermott has been saying the last 3 years or so you'll probably agree that this is ultimately the kind of offense he's been trying to create. Beane has been shopping accordingly. It's not an accident that we've arrived here. It may not look exactly how they drew it up but make no mistake it's by design 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I think if you go back and listen to what McDermott has been saying the last 3 years or so you'll probably agree that this is ultimately the kind of offense he's been trying to create. Beane has been shopping accordingly. It's not an accident that we've arrived here. It may not look exactly how they drew it up but make no mistake it's by design That may or may not be the case but let's just say that it is the case. Now we can move onto the question of whether McDermott can change his stripes when faced with the fallout of clear and public offensive failure... 1) He's not stupid 2) He probably cares to preserve his job Do people really think he'll stick to his guns in this scenario? Quote
st pete gogolak Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 27 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I think if you go back and listen to what McDermott has been saying the last 3 years or so you'll probably agree that this is ultimately the kind of offense he's been trying to create. Beane has been shopping accordingly. It's not an accident that we've arrived here. It may not look exactly how they drew it up but make no mistake it's by design Agree 100%. This is the offense McDermott wants. Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 4 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Here’s a name: Colts passing game coordinator (and former Buffalo Bill) Alex Tanney was with the Eagles as Hurts QB coach during his ascension. He’s now overseeing the offense of Daniel Jones who is having the best season of his career. I don't know if people remember Tanney but he was quite a social media sensation in the day as the Trick Shot QB. 1 1 Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: I think if you go back and listen to what McDermott has been saying the last 3 years or so you'll probably agree that this is ultimately the kind of offense he's been trying to create. Beane has been shopping accordingly. It's not an accident that we've arrived here. It may not look exactly how they drew it up but make no mistake it's by design I think this is a very fair take. 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago 27 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I don't know if people remember Tanney but he was quite a social media sensation in the day as the Trick Shot QB. I knew the name sounded familiar. As someone with very strong football knowledge, how likely do you think is it that McDermott will seek a new coordinator (or two) if for instance, they lose in the Wild Card Round? Are there any coaches out there you think would be attractive possibilities? Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: I knew the name sounded familiar. As someone with very strong football knowledge, how likely do you think is it that McDermott will seek a new coordinator (or two) if for instance, they lose in the Wild Card Round? Are there any coaches out there you think would be attractive possibilities? I think Davis Webb is the most obvious choice because of the connection to Josh Allen. Get to keep an EP system. Josh Allen isn't going to accept some Joe Pendry type middling re-tread like McDermott might otherwise be in the market for. And the really hot names like Kubiak are looking for HC jobs. In the unlikely event that they move on from McDermott the name I wonder about is Matt LaFleur. If the Packers get bounced early in the playoffs maybe Packers management decides to move on. 1 Quote
Don Otreply Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago It won’t matter if we change coordinators, whom ever would be brought in won’t be allowed to make meaningful scheme changes, especially on defense, , look at the history of our current administration, Dabol had regular disagreements with our head coach, because of scheme differences, it’s not going to change now. Just my opinion, GO BILLS!!! 1 Quote
Billsfanatic8989 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 8 hours ago, GoBills808 said: The coordinators are clearly operating within the existing system Swapping them out will not change much /thread If forced to choose....Mike McDaniel as OC & Rex Ryan as DC. Edited 1 hour ago by Billsfanatic8989 Quote
notpolian Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Yeah I agree that unless change happens at the top not much can change below. This team needs talent. OC: somebody from the outer branches of the SF Shanahan tree. But not McDaniels. DC: someone from outside the building. A Spags disciple could work. Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Most likely anyone hired for the position is already on staff. That's just how they do it here. If McDermott looked outside the organization I still like Bobby Slowik. I think he kind of got scapegoated by Houston. But most likely I think we would be looking at either Aaron Kromer or Ronald Curry. Defense is the conundrum. I don't see anyone on staff qualified. I think the most likely outcome there is McDermott calls the def next year and Babich is DC in name only. I could also see McDermott bringing in a guy like Steve Wilks if he's available as Wilks has experience with this type defense. Quote
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