Who do we want, who do we need as our next HC and, or GM?

[jaybeezee]

14 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

Trade 3 first round picks to the Rams for McVay.

 

He would love the snow up here 

Do you think that the city/ weather plays a part in us getting better candidates? Real questions, because I've heard that before. Many of these 

HCs are married and their wives want to be in  cities that have more going on, better weather and better housing situations.  McVay I'm sure loves LA and wouldn't leave unless we offered a ridiculous amount of money, as well as draft picks that we cannot afford to lose unless its for a generational player.

 

I personally would offer Minnesota 2 first  ans a 2026 Second for Jefferson at this point.

 

Gotta go all in while Josh is still great. 

[Kirby Jackson]

2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Ironically the great pass rush supplied by former Panther Brian Burns not top 3 pick Abdul Carter. 

Burns has been a stud. Schoen did make that trade. Apparently, Carter’s pass rush win rate has been off the charts. He’s just not getting sacks. He’s the betting favorite as DROY.

[SoonerBillsFan]

First a GM who has been successfully evaluating college talent. This means an assistant GM who has been part of a successful organization. 

 

Second is an offensive HC.  I still say a guy well versed in the WCO.  Young,Favre, Rogers,Mahomes etal have put up big numbers and won MVP's in that system so it still works.

[boyst]

Does anyone remember tre White's interview with the Ravens where he was talking about going from different culture to different culture to baltimore? In Buffalo they let you be yourself and everybody was really family focused while in Los Angeles the Rams were an organized machine business. It was just what they did, and it doesn't make either one right. But I just wish the bills right now we're a little more business in a lot less personality.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

10 minutes ago, jaybeezee said:

Decision made! Gruden it is.

 

Gas up the Cesna Terry!

 

 Gotta lighten the mood here a tad!

The mood will lighten as soon as DC Tom evaluates your idea. 🤨

[Shortchaz]

I’m a supporter of replacing McDermott for two reasons: 

 

• I don’t like his defensive philosophy; I don’t feel it has the potential to be a strong enough force. It doesn’t dictate terms to the offense, it relies on the offense to make mistakes. 

• I feel like our best chance to win a superbowl, with Josh, is to get the benefit of the unknown that comes with a new coach and go on a heater for a season. 
 

I don’t think McDermott is going anywhere. I hope he continues to grow and learn. Ideally, he would cede control of the defense to a qualified coordinator. 
 

 

Edited 17 minutes ago by Shortchaz

[GunnerBill]

If I was moving on (I'm not there yet but open to the idea that I might be in January) then for coach Klint Kubiak and I have no idea on GM. I'd honestly hire the coach and let them pick their GM. When I look across the NFL the last 15 years that model has worked a lot:

 

Carroll chose Schneider; Reid chose Dorsey and then Veach; Shanahan chose Lynch; McDermott chose Beane.

 

I think synergy in that relationship really matters and unless you have an elite GM in situ where you make the coach the interchangeable part I'd start with the coach then go from there.

[jaybeezee]

1 minute ago, boyst said:

Does anyone remember tre White's interview with the Ravens where he was talking about going from different culture to different culture to baltimore? In Buffalo they let you be yourself and everybody was really family focused while in Los Angeles the Rams were an organized machine business. It was just what they did, and it doesn't make either one right. But I just wish the bills right now we're a little more business in a lot less personality.

I think that its part of the problem here. Everyone is way too relaxed. 

 

There's not one prominent member of this team that feels any type of pressure.

 

This has come from out of the mouth of our QB himself.

[harmonkillebrew]

2 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

I’m a supporter of replacing McDermott for two reasons: 

 

• I don’t like his defensive philosophy; I don’t feel it has the potential to be a strong enough force. It doesn’t dictate terms to the offense, it relies on the offense to make mistakes. 

• I feel like our best chance to win a superbowl, with Josh, is to get the benefit of the unknown that comes with a new coach and go on a heater for a season. 
 

I don’t think McDermott is going anywhere. I hope continues to grow and learn. Ideally, he would cede control of the defense to qualified coordinator. 
 

 

It is going to take a major, continued screw up for Terry to replace Beane and McD. 

It's nice to dream but that's all we're doing. 

[The Jokeman]

2 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

First a GM who has been successfully evaluating college talent. This means an assistant GM who has been part of a successful organization. 

 

Second is an offensive HC.  I still say a guy well versed in the WCO.  Young,Favre, Rogers,Mahomes etal have put up big numbers and won MVP's in that system so it still works.

WCO is a timing offense, Josh running right waiting for someone to get open is not it. 

[Kirby Jackson]

Can somebody help me understand the Gruden love? 🤣🤣 Other than, “I’ve heard of that guy” he has largely been a lousy coach. He has a 117-112 record and is arguably the worst coach to win a Super Bowl. He wouldn’t be in my top 10. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Kirby Jackson

[nosejob]

9 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Schoen and this is where it gets tough.  Probably Daboll,  and I recognize the insanity of taking the guys the Giants fired.  But I don’t know that I’d swap out both GM and coach.  If it’s one or the other,  then it’s easy.  Beane is gone.  He fell in love with his guys and did a lot of overpaying and frankly missed too much.  This years WR room did it for me. 

Think about when Shoen was here and how it's gone since he left.

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Can somebody help me understand the Gruden love? 🤣🤣 Other than, “I’ve heard of that guy” he largely been a lousy coach. He has a 117-112 record and is arguably the worst coach to win a Super Bowl. He wouldn’t be in my top 10. 

Cuz he won a Super Bowl is all I can figure but hell if that's the reason to get him then let's bring in  why not  add Bruce Arians and yes I'm joking as hate both.

Edited 26 minutes ago by The Jokeman

[Sojourner]

If we are entertaining this pipe dream, I’d take a chance on an offensive minded HC

 

No particular order:

 

Kliff Kingsbury, Lane Kiffin or Klint Kubiak. 
 

If Kiffin comes to the NFL I would venture to say it’s the Giants job given his college QB is there. 
 

If they don’t choose any of those guys or they aren’t available, I wouldn’t mind Robert Salah. However, the minute those “players coach” lose the locker room it’s pretty much no salvageable 

 

[SectionC3]

6 minutes ago, harmonkillebrew said:

It is going to take a major, continued screw up for Terry to replace Beane and McD. 

It's nice to dream but that's all we're doing. 

Agreed.  And I really think McSchottenheimer is safe.  
 

If I’ve learned one thing about Sean, it’s that he will sacrifice others to save himself.  The no show on 13 seconds.  Canning Farwell and then Dorsey.  DC changes.  If the pattern persists, the next logical sacrifice is … the GM. 

[gobills404]

GM: Ray Agnew (Lions asst. GM)

HC and play caller: Klint Kubiak

OC: Mike McDaniel

DC: Jonathan Gannon

Obviously pending the last 2 getting fired. Alternatives that don’t need to be fired would be Mark Brunell (Lions QB coach) and Jeff Howard (Seahawks Safeties coach).

Edited 1 hour ago by gobills404

[jaybeezee]

1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

Agreed.  And I really think McSchottenheimer is safe.  
 

If I’ve learned one thing about Sean, it’s that he will sacrifice others to save himself.  The no show on 13 seconds.  Canning Farwell and then Dorsey.  DC changes.  If the pattern persists, the next logical sacrifice is … the GM. 

The only thing that I'll give him credit for is i believe when he fired Dorsey, he stated publicly that he wanted to true OC search, but Josh wanted Brady.  Correct me if I'm wrong, as it could've been before he hired Dorsey, but McF definitely said he wanted to hire a proven OC.

[dpberr]

I'll play the game.

 

Head coach:  Not so much a specific person in mind, but a quality I'd like to see is a coach (and staff) comfortable with adapting to changing circumstances from season to season and insid the games.  More tacticians, less process.  Tired of somewhat mindlessly following the "installed" game plan.    

 

Front office:  Believe the draft profiles.  If a consensus of draft profiles say the same thing about a player, believe the detail to be accurate, good or bad.  

[SectionC3]

10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

If I was moving on (I'm not there yet but open to the idea that I might be in January) then for coach Klint Kubiak and I have no idea on GM. I'd honestly hire the coach and let them pick their GM. When I look across the NFL the last 15 years that model has worked a lot:

 

Carroll chose Schneider; Reid chose Dorsey and then Veach; Shanahan chose Lynch; McDermott chose Beane.

 

I think synergy in that relationship really matters and unless you have an elite GM in situ where you make the coach the interchangeable part I'd start with the coach then go from there.

Thai is plenty logical to me, but I’ll add that 17 has to sign off on the coach.  If I’m him, I’m not splitting time on opposite coasts convincing my wife to spend a solid three months a year on a gray atmosphere that is super conducive to football and work but not great for someone used to a different lifestyle who can’t work here UNLESS it’s worth it. Worth it has to mean good culture and fun on and off the field.  It’s probably why guys like Knox are still here (although I have it on good authority he was shopped prior to the deadline).  Those thoughts lead me to someone proven (say Matt LaFleur if he gets canned) or much more likely someone familiar (Daboll or, here it is from left field,  Davis Webb). 

[jaybeezee]

2 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

GM: Ray Agnew (Lions asst. GM)

HC and play caller: Klint Kubiak

OC: Mike McDaniel

DC: Jonathan Gannon

Obviously pending the last 2 getting fired.

I can get behind this for sure. This is the best I've seen this far.

Edited 1 hour ago by jaybeezee