Coaches are heavily implying that Coleman isn’t trying on the field

[yall]

17 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Show up to friggin work.  Grow up.  Take it seriously.  Nobody else does this crap. Stuff like that.  

Wow, that's pretty damning, but definitely checks out with everything else we're hearing. 

 

Specifically with Dawkins calling him out. Usually guys dance around that stuff, but he was pretty blunt. 

 

I'd hate to have to cut bait on this guy, hopefully he gets it soon.

[ganesh]

1 hour ago, yall said:

Wow, that's pretty damning, but definitely checks out with everything else we're hearing. 

 

Specifically with Dawkins calling him out. Usually guys dance around that stuff, but he was pretty blunt. 

 

I'd hate to have to cut bait on this guy, hopefully he gets it soon.

What is surprising is that these are professionals (paid employees).  They come to work to do their daily job.  Why would he be skipping it, especially on a team where he can be the hero week in/week out; a team that is a Super Bowl favorite.   Is it a lack of motivation?  Is it a hindering injury ?  Is he in the coaches dog house and unable to get out of it.  He was the chosen one by Allen coming out of the draft.  He came in humble and said all the right things. It is really perplexing what is happening to him.  And more importantly, is the team's psychologist not available to talk to him?   Who is helping him come out of this slump....so many questions and very little answers...damn McDermott

[strive_for_five_guy]

38 minutes ago, ganesh said:

What is surprising is that these are professionals (paid employees).  They come to work to do their daily job.  Why would he be skipping it, especially on a team where he can be the hero week in/week out; a team that is a Super Bowl favorite.   Is it a lack of motivation?  Is it a hindering injury ?  Is he in the coaches dog house and unable to get out of it.  He was the chosen one by Allen coming out of the draft.  He came in humble and said all the right things. It is really perplexing what is happening to him.  And more importantly, is the team's psychologist not available to talk to him?   Who is helping him come out of this slump....so many questions and very little answers...damn McDermott

McD is probably the best chance Keon has of turning things around while here.  He seems about as fair as they come, and even commented in recent days how everyone has a different journey.  Sounded like a father more than a coach.  

Whether that gets through to Keon or not, who knows.  Maybe he’s been the star athlete for so long and now living off his rookie contract, he either doesn’t appreciate or care that he’s not going to take the next step in his NFL career if he doesn’t get his act together.  He seems defiant so far versus remorseful.  I’d let him keep riding the bench until he gets his act together.  Even then, if the offense is rolling, let him ride the bench the rest of the year.  I don’t think the message has gotten through to him yet.

[SoonerBillsFan]

2 hours ago, yall said:

Wow, that's pretty damning, but definitely checks out with everything else we're hearing. 

 

Specifically with Dawkins calling him out. Usually guys dance around that stuff, but he was pretty blunt. 

 

I'd hate to have to cut bait on this guy, hopefully he gets it soon.

He was a bad pick like Elam.  Its time to cut bait this offseason 

[boater]

I am inclined to think Coleman's abilities are what they are, and that isn't that great.

 

BUT, I could be wrong. Maybe his problem is a mental block of some kind. It occurs to me that the team psychologist (Dr. Desaree Festa) could work on his psyche. That is what she is advertised to do:

 

"Mental health is something that we really value here," Festa said of the belief and buy in from the team. "My job as the team psychologist is to help optimize players' mental space on the field as well as off the field. Thus, the goal is to take care of both the athlete and the person in their mental, emotional, and relational well-being because we know that healthier athletes off the field are healthier athletes on the field and vice versa. My goal is to help support the whole player, both performer and person." (link)

 

Maybe she can turn Coleman into a performer.

[colin]

if coleman were a 5th round pick he'd only have ever gotten spot duty.  frankly, that might have made him a better player, he's a classic looks like a guy who can dominate but just can't play ball kinda guy.

 

he has a chance to really embrace a smaller role and stay on the team, but i think that's a slim chance and he's likely gonezo.

[2003Contenders]

12 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

Any doesn’t mean every, no matter how hard you try to make it so.  
 

Coleman is hardly the first player, let alone the first wideout, to be late to or to miss a meeting.  Diggs, for example,  was chronically late,  so much so he had a dedicated parking spot next to the door.  Coleman’s on-field performance has been so abysmal that he didn’t get the Diggs treatment and was “outed” by the Bills for his immaturity.  So I’d say he has some pretty big problems.  
 

I’ll add another nugget.  I overhead, at the stadium on Sunday, a prominent member of the organization absolutely destroying Coleman.  I wasn’t part of the conversation, but I heard it well, and I was taken aback by the blunt and critical tone.  Lots of frustration with him.  

I get what you are saying. But it reminds me of back in the early 90s during the Cowboys' run, Jimmy Johnson rather infamously cut a marginal player on the spot for falling asleep during film session.  At a press conference after the incident, a reporter asked Jimmy what he would have done if it had been Troy Aikman who had fallen asleep instead of the other player. Jimmy replied, "I would have walked over to him, nudged film and said 'Troy, wake up!'".

 

The point is that an elite player (like Diggs was for the Bills most of the time) can get away with things that other players can't. It may seem unfair, but that is the nature of the business. Coleman hasn't done anything to date that has earned him this type of favoritism. And, given that he has already been disciplined on multiple occasions for the same indiscretion -- and both his QB and head coach were placed in a position just days before of defending his perceived lack of effort -- his decision to skip a mandatory team meeting could not have come at a worse time.

 

I don't personally know the young man, so it is difficult for me to guess what the issue may be. Did he view the nice payday he received when joining the NFL as the culmination and end of his journey? Is he open to coaching and guidance from more seasoned players and coaches? I will say that I do not like his body language -- as it does come across as he doesn't care at times. That could be just part of his personality/demeanor, and perhaps the effort really is there. But perception is reality, and the perception by observers (including apparently some players and coaches) is that he that he does not always give max effort.

 

He's still young, and I truly believe that he is playing for an organization that has his best interest at heart -- and will do whatever they can to help him "grow up". But it's up to him to step up and rise to the challenge.

[billsfan89]

I think this is Keon's last shot to really turn it around here. The team has tried to do less harsh actions but now they benched him and told him shape up or ship out. And sometimes guys need to be cut or traded to click or they never get it. I think if Keon shows up and works hard the rest of the season they will bring him back and try to get it to work if nothing changes expect him to be traded for a later round pick swap of some sort or in a package as a throw in for another WR.

[Fleezoid]

16 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said:

I get what you are saying. But it reminds me of back in the early 90s during the Cowboys' run, Jimmy Johnson rather infamously cut a marginal player on the spot for falling asleep during film session.  At a press conference after the incident, a reporter asked Jimmy what he would have done if it had been Troy Aikman who had fallen asleep instead of the other player. Jimmy replied, "I would have walked over to him, nudged film and said 'Troy, wake up!'".

 

The point is that an elite player (like Diggs was for the Bills most of the time) can get away with things that other players can't. It may seem unfair, but that is the nature of the business. Coleman hasn't done anything to date that has earned him this type of favoritism. And, given that he has already been disciplined on multiple occasions for the same indiscretion -- and both his QB and head coach were placed in a position just days before of defending his perceived lack of effort -- his decision to skip a mandatory team meeting could not have come at a worse time.

 

 

This is spot on. Many years ago, I was working shift in an aircraft maintenance shop. Every shift there would be a shop turnover with outgoing shift. Most folks would get in 10-15 minutes early. One young kid would come in 2-5 minutes late. Not all the time but often enough that it was noticed. One morning he shows up 5 minutes late again. Another guy showed up 15 minutes late. The young kid was counseled and asked me why the other dude wasn't counseled as well. Obvious what the answer is here. Basically said, 'The other guy is always here 15 minutes early. it's a habitual thing, not a time thing. Be consistently better and they'll forgive the 1-offs'. 

 

[jaybeezee]

On 11/17/2025 at 8:29 PM, Beck Water said:

Starting with 2018, and only counting players who are still active:

Tremaine Edmunds LB of course.  Even OP acknowledges him.

Harrison Phillips DT.  Started 17 games for 3 years and all 10 this year for Vikes, 59-74% of the snaps.  Vikes #5 D last year, 14-3 and in 2022 13-4.  Solid.

Siran Neal CB.  Played 17 games for MIA and 11 so far for SF as a STer.  SF currently 7-4

Wyatt Teller G.  Starting for Cleveland at G since 2019.  Has been to 3 probowls and 2nd team AP twice.  Might remotely be any good.

Ray Ray McCloud WR.  Has played on 5 different teams since leaving the Bills, including 12-4 Steelers, Conf Champ and SB with the 49ers. Largely PR/KR Led the league in PR in 2021.  Also saw significant WR snaps with PIT in 2021 and ATL in 2024.  Ya kind of think he might remotely be good if he lead the league and played in 2 conf. champs and a superbowl.

2019
Devin Singletary RB.  Solid year for HOU in 2023 with more yards than he had in B'lo.  Currently playing for the Giants and his YPC has tanked.  

Cody Ford G.  Started every game at G for Cincy in 2023, all but 1 in 2024, all so far this season.  He ain't an all pro, but they haven't found better.

2020
Isaiah Hodgins WR.  For a player who was not "Remotely any good" there was a lot of heartburn here when we lost him to the Giants on waivers.  After an OK year in 2023, he lost playing time in 2024 and gained it back this year.  Played a lot and had a decent game last Sunday.  We'll see how he does now Daboll's gone

Dane Jackson.  Back with the Bills now.  Played ~40% of the snaps for CAR last year in 9 games and 3 starts so they might have thought he was remotely any good 

2021
Matt Araiza. P.  Punting and holding for the Chiefs.  Lots of heart burnings here about that.

Nick Broeker  G, Playing for Houston, mostly ST.  All 9 games this season

Alex Austin CB.  Has been in New England last 3 seasons, playing ST and CB.  Has started 5 games at CB in the last 2 years.

That's 11 players besides Edmunds who were drafted by the Bills, went elsewhere, and saw significant playing time.  Several STers, but when a guy is leading the league as an STer he might be above "remotely any good".  6 have been starting.

I know, @BuffaloBillyG, there I go with the facts again

 

I did the laughing emoji! You are severely reaching. The only player worth anything is Teller and our dumb dumb GM traded him for nothing. 

 

You brought up Dane Jackson,  Alex Austin??. Etc.. all nobody's that barely see the field.

 

Im talking about impact players, that are studs.not STs.