Trade Deadline has come and gone

[jaybeezee]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I had heard things early in the day. The Bills were very active. Again, I don’t know where their line was on respective deals but they were in negotiations on multiple trades.

He's part of the " high end business meetings" is where he heard things.

 

Lol... you are okay with mediocrity Kirby. You defend Beane like your related to him! He is wasting Josh best years. We will go defense again in the early rounds of the draft and you will defend that too. They will either give Josh a reach in theb3rd, or grab a washed up  Samuel type a contract for 10mil a year and pat themselves on the back.

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, Success said:

 

Shaheed is another WR3.  He was really hyped here - but we have a roster full of WR3's.

 

we don’t have his speed, big play, and return ability

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, Fan in Chicago said:

We have a current need and one WR to firmly be in SB contention (I am not sold on the idea that we already are). 

Waddle , Wilson etc may have been expensive and not worth multiple firsts. 

But, Shaheed was traded. Worst case we would have had to over-,bid by a little to get him. Saints would have traded outside the conference so no concern on their part. What stopped Beane from acquiring him ? This slavish adherence to "value"?

Shaheed would have cost the Bills like a 3rd and 6th probably (or something like that). The 4th and 5th wouldn’t have been quite enough. That’s a move that I probably would have made as well but it isn’t a no brainer. 

[PromoTheRobot]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

Again, I’m asking, “which specific move AND at what price would you have done?” 
 

 

SOMETHING!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

I’d have given a 3rd for Shaheed.

I think I would have too.

[Nihilarian]

Beane is not an idiot. Where did it get Miami to hold on to Waddle, Chubb at 2-7? I suspect that teams wanted to take advantage of any Buffalo interest in their players.

 

On another note Jerry Jones is a fool to trade away Micah Parsons only to bring in a DT. The Colts to give up two firsts for a CB that gets flagged a lot when they have a Maybe at QB?

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

Shaheed would have cost the Bills like a 3rd and 6th probably (or something like that). The 4th and 5th wouldn’t have been quite enough. That’s a move that I probably would have made as well but it isn’t a no brainer. 

sure 3rd + throw in a 5th or 6th we’d get it back in a March trade or comp pick anyway

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, jaybeezee said:

He's part of the " high end business meetings" is where he heard things.

 

Lol... you are okay with mediocrity Kirby. You defend Beane like your related to him! He is wasting Josh best years. We will go defense again in the early rounds of the draft and you will defend that too. They will either give Josh a reach in theb3rd, or grab a washed up  Samuel type a contract for 10mil a year and pat themselves on the back.

You can believe me or not. That’s on you. 
 

If you think that I defend Beane, you must be new here. 🤣🤣 I’ve been arguably his biggest critic when it comes to WR. 

[finn]

1 minute ago, Fan in Chicago said:

We have a current need and are one WR short to firmly be in SB contention (I am not sold on the idea that we already are). 

Waddle , Wilson etc may have been expensive and not worth multiple firsts. 

But, Shaheed was traded. Worst case we would have had to over-,bid by a little to get him. Saints would have traded outside the conference so no concern on their part. What stopped Beane from acquiring him ? This slavish adherence to "value"?

To be fair, Beane gave up a third for Amari Cooper last year, which was not a value pick. So I wonder if he tried to outbid Seattle for Shaheed, who went for a fourth and fifth-round picks. Even a third and fifth still sounds like value to me if it give Allen someone to throw to besides his tight ends. 

[BADOLBILZ]

39 minutes ago, Einstein said:

I have simply come to terms with the fact that Beane and I don’t value draft picks the same.

 

I see them as lottery tickets. 

 

I would rather trade a lottery ticket for a known commodity, than use the lottery ticket.

 

I would rather cash in a 1 in a million chance at a billion dollars, for a guaranteed $100,000.

 

He doesn’t agree, and that sucks in my opinion, but it is what it is.

 

 

Yeah I've been a a draftnik for decades so I value those picks but despite that I realize that the most overrated chip at a GM's disposal is exercising that first round pick.

 

About half of them even play well enough by year 3 to justify picking up their option.

 

And if you are drafting late,  some years you get lucky and get a Greg Rousseau but more years than not you probably aren't getting a difference maker at a premium position late in round 1, let alone a star.

 

Right now GM's want to clutch that pick.......it's gold to them..........but by the time the draft rolls around they will be telling the media they only have 17 guys with first round grades etc..

 

About half the time the pick depreciates DURING the draft process.   

 

But it's a hard trigger to pull because the fan base has grown to believe that that pick should always be a hit.

[jaybeezee]

That wouldve got the deal done. He needs his 3rd to draft the likes of Landon Jackson type next year!

[BuffaloBillyG]

Just now, jaybeezee said:

That wouldve got the deal done. He needs his 3rd to draft the likes of Landon Jackson type next year!

 

[HappyDays]

2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

BTJ for sure. There were others I’m certain but those I know of.

 

I had heard they put in an offer for Metcalf before he was traded. We know they called on Olave. It seems that Beane gets involved in a lot of these discussions but is never willing to cross his own line. Just once I'd like him to cross it. The last time he did in 2020 we ended up with one of the most successful QB/WR duos in franchise history, regardless of how it ended. My concern all along with the trade deadline was that Beane would want to "win" the trade value. I'm more interested in winning a Super Bowl and you don't get there by staying in your comfort zone. That's my two cents.

[ngbills]

PHI,TB, LAR - The three non Chiefs to win all did it through trades and free agency. Add in SF who has lost two. 

[Warriorspikes51]

If Kincaid goes down the offense is going to be in serious trouble against above average defenses

 

unless Palmer becomes a regular intermediate threat

[jaybeezee]

2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

You can believe me or not. That’s on you. 
 

If you think that I defend Beane, you must be new here. 🤣🤣 I’ve been arguably his biggest critic when it comes to WR. 

So for what Seattle paid, we couldn't have done. I bet if we offered them a 3rd they would jumped all over it.

 

Beane sucks... period! Pegula is too stupid and afraid to make a move there.

 

Seattle has a dominant WR and they just got him help. Something Beane refuses to do for Josh. L9ok at Darnolds numbers and look at Josh's.  Then tell me why. Don't say it's because Josh has no receivers and we have the chance to trade for one that's not in our division. 

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, HappyDays said:

 

I had heard they put in an offer for Metcalf before he was traded. We know they called on Olave. It seems that Beane gets involved in a lot of these discussions but is never willing to cross his own line. Just once I'd like him to cross it. The last time he did in 2020 we ended up with one of the most successful QB/WR duos in franchise history, regardless of how it ended. My concern all along with the trade deadline was that Beane would want to "win" the trade value. I'm more interested in winning a Super Bowl and you don't get there by staying in your comfort zone. That's my two cents.

+ there is the ego pride factor with his WGR comments

[3rdand12]

6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

we don’t have his speed, big play, and return ability

exactly.

Also felt maybe that DT from the Cowboys was a low cost need Mazi ?(sp) cuz injuries

[Fleezoid]

[Mikey152]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

 

It's like you guys never learn your lesson on these players...

 

not all rookies are good day 1