LAMP - Anyone else still overall pessimistic about this season/Super Bowl chances?

[Rousseauisnoschmo]

1 hour ago, PaattMaann said:

Anyone who is pessimistic just needs to understand that super bowls arent won in september or october, or even november. Its all about rounding into form, and being HEALTHY, come playoffs. Everything is very much on the table for this team, and we have the best player in the world. 

Been saying the same thing for the last fifty years. 

[muppy]

This thought just came into my head and Im posting it

 

"Where would you rather be than right here right Now" Im  glad to be in the thick of things and not the jests lol Right? RIGHT

 

in the thick of a season where anything can happen. Sink or swim  GO BILLS

 

 

[Gugny]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

That is a totally fine and fair take. I'm not asking anyone to consider 13-4 a success if you get bounced in the playoffs. But if you don't enjoy watching your team win a game in case they lose later then turn off the tv and go do something else with your life. Seriously. 

This is where I was during the TuhROD years. The ONLY time I’ve ever hated watching the Bills. The day that piece of sh*t was traded was the end of feeling that way. 

[colin]

13 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

Does anyone else recall the 2023 season, and at the bye week, the Bills were 6-6, and meanwhile, Miami was 9-3? Talk about a bleak-looking future with Buffalo, THREE games behind at week 13. What does this HC do? He fires his OC and promotes from within. With all the pessimism going on right now, did things look worse back in 2023? That team met the Dolphins in the last regular season game and won the division. 

 

A lot of Bills fans dislike McClappy for whatever reason, and they think the Bills should have been in the SB by now...and they would be right except the best team in the NFL with an offensive genius as their HC, a defensive genius as their DC, along with a generational talent at QB. KC has been the best team in the NFL for the last 5 years...the BEST!

 

Up to date, McD saw that the defense needed a boost, so he took over the playcalling for now. And if anyone remembers, he called the defensive plays back in 2023, too. That team was riddled with defensive injuries that season and still finished in the top 5 in points allowed and the top 10 in yards allowed. So this head coach knows what's up with what's going on with his team, and he will take the steps needed going forward. I have faith that he will make whatever changes are needed. 

 

 

honestly, i think most of us just remember our teams from prior seasons based on our insane playoff production on o, horrible playoff d, and the felling of how close we were to beating kc (or cinci).  like, does anyone (besides quoted poster above) look back at the season record, stats, or game logs?

 

in 2021, the year we were supposed to be the best we have been, we were 7-6.  we got super hot and won games (but not necessarily total domination all the time).  in 2022 we totally dominated the regular season (we looked weak vs cinci and didn't complete the hamlin heart stoppage game tho).  we lost 3 games by a total of 8 points, one was the miami 120 degrees disaster where we out gained them 2 to 1 and lost by 1 point.  one was vs the jets where it was some kinda last second bs, and one was vs minni where we had a fumble on a goal line allen sneak, and on 4th and half the field jefferson cought the ball off our worst db, who honestly helped jj catch the pass on accident.  that was cook's first year, and we had von in rare form until he blew up his leg again and took 120mm of pegula dollars down with him.

 

in 2020, the only year we made the afc chip game before our current coaching and team design when we made it last year, here is who we had

 

qb break out josh allen, electricity in qb form!

wr diggs in his best season ever, brown, gabe davis (rookie), bease, iseah mak

LB -- milano, edmunds, backed up by dodson and still living aj klien

secondary -- prime tre, prime poy and hyde, prime taron, levi "someone has to be cb2" wallace

 

all those position groups were really good to elite.  i'd say top 3 or 4 secondary, allen was top 5 or 3 that season, wr was like top 3 or 4, LB was def top 10

 

here is the rest of the squad

RB singletery, yeldon, taiwan jones

TE knox, gilliam (rook), croft, lee smith (he was so banged up at this point)

OL dawkins, bates, butger, morse, feliciano, williams, nsekhe

 

DL zimmer, phillips, oliver, murphy, rook aj, butler, addison, jefferson houghs

 

our secondary back then was better, wayyyyyy better than in playoffs last season once christian went down (not even close).  once we are up to full health today, our current secondary will still be worse but maybe not by so so much

our LBs were better, maybe much better since milano was better, but shaq has been pretty flipping good

our wr's were much better, especially with outside threats.

 

our DL was bad, star sat the season out, and the pass sucked. 

Our RBs were CHEEKS. 

our tight ends were awful (knox was still kinda raw, and the rest were bad, gilliam was basically a full back).

our OL was a disgusting pile.  we have multiple back ups who would start on that line now.

 

so, if we are objective in comparing rosters, it's better now, just not at wr and secondary, small nod at LB to the old one.

 

everyone is talking about how allen and the passing game sucks now, look at his numbers after week 8 last year (MVP year) and now.  it's the flipping same ish.

 

we have a top 6-8ish DL right now (if oliver comes back, along w dq and sanders it might be higher).  we have a top 2 or 3 OL.  we have a top 3 or 4 RB room, we have a top 3 or 4 TE room.  We have a top flight qb.  our D maybe perhaps will put something together where they can get a couple stops and turnovers in the playoffs.

 

we win a super bowl if we can have good health, especially where we've had stacked injuries, and we ride our big players to the promised land.

run the ball on everyone, maul them with the most mauling oline in the nfl (cook had like 140 yards before contact last sunday, that's OD), use the big person formations and pass to TEs, Backs, and the occasional wr.  control the TOP when we want, score when we can, wear out the opponents.

 

that's it, that's the formula.  it might not happen but we have at least as good of a chance as it happening this season as we did last season.  we have the best RB, QB, TE, OL, DL combo in the nfl.  big people, plus the two positions that touch the ball the most.  last year that combo belonged to baltimore, and everyone was afraid of them, now it's us

 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Gugny said:

This is where I was during the TuhROD years. The ONLY time I’ve ever hated watching the Bills. The day that piece of sh*t was traded was the end of feeling that way. 

 

I hated Rex and wanted him gone. I found that era of Bills football more miserable than the 6-10 purgatory. But I still enjoyed watching us win games. Still got excited by the winning. 

[mjt328]

14 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

Does anyone else recall the 2023 season, and at the bye week, the Bills were 6-6, and meanwhile, Miami was 9-3? Talk about a bleak-looking future with Buffalo, THREE games behind at week 13. What does this HC do? He fires his OC and promotes from within. With all the pessimism going on right now, did things look worse back in 2023? That team met the Dolphins in the last regular season game and won the division. 

 

A lot of Bills fans dislike McClappy for whatever reason, and they think the Bills should have been in the SB by now...and they would be right except the best team in the NFL with an offensive genius as their HC, a defensive genius as their DC, along with a generational talent at QB. KC has been the best team in the NFL for the last 5 years...the BEST!

 

Up to date, McD saw that the defense needed a boost, so he took over the playcalling for now. And if anyone remembers, he called the defensive plays back in 2023, too. That team was riddled with defensive injuries that season and still finished in the top 5 in points allowed and the top 10 in yards allowed. So this head coach knows what's up with what's going on with his team, and he will take the steps needed going forward. I have faith that he will make whatever changes are needed. 

You talk about that season like it turned out positive.

 

The Bills came back and won the division.  But their mid-season lull cost them a chance at the bye.  And then they got bounced in the Divisional Round.

 

People aren’t upset about the AFC East possibly slipping away.  They are upset because this team still doesn’t look ready for the next step, and still looks behind the Chiefs.  Which means another wasted year in Josh Allen’s rapidly closing window.

[Gugny]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I hated Rex and wanted him gone. I found that era of Bills football more miserable than the 6-10 purgatory. But I still enjoyed watching us win games. Still got excited by the winning. 

My difficulty enjoying the wins came from the plethora of idiots each week who actually thought we won because of something Taylor did. 
 

That happened:

 

A) whenever we played Miami and

B) when we played Seattle

 

That was it. 

 

[GunnerBill]

10 minutes ago, Gugny said:

My difficulty enjoying the wins came from the plethora of idiots each week who actually thought we won because of something Taylor did. 
 

That happened:

 

A) whenever we played Miami and

B) when we played Seattle

 

That was it. 

 

 

We lost to Seattle? He had three plays from inside the 10 at the end to get us in and couldn't.

[dave mcbride]

23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

We lost to Seattle? He had three plays from inside the 10 at the end to get us in and couldn't.

Taylor played well in that Seattle game despite the loss.

[Virgil]

3 hours ago, Gugny said:

This is where I was during the TuhROD years. The ONLY time I’ve ever hated watching the Bills. The day that piece of sh*t was traded was the end of feeling that way. 

Don’t you talk about TyGod that way!   He broke the drought.  
 

You’re in serious danger of losing out on cuddles later. 

[Gugny]

43 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

We lost to Seattle? He had three plays from inside the 10 at the end to get us in and couldn't.

No, he had his best game ever against Seattle if my memory serves me. 

[KCNC]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

No, he had his best game ever against Seattle if my memory serves me. 

We were screwed multiple times in that game by the refs including non-call PI in endzone and end of half strafing of Dan Carpenter by Richie Sherman that should have been a PF 

[H2o]

We still have a chance as long as we get in the dance. All it takes is getting hot at the right time. Just ask the Giants, who happened to do so twice. 

[GunnerBill]

8 minutes ago, Gugny said:

No, he had his best game ever against Seattle if my memory serves me. 

 

Yea but we lost and he failed at the end.

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, H2o said:

We still have a chance as long as we get in the dance. All it takes is getting hot at the right time. Just ask the Giants, who happened to do so twice. 

 

Those Giants teams with Coughlin had good defenses. Their pass rush made Brady uncomfortable which allowed them to take down the evil empire twice on the biggest stage. This Bills defense isn't as good as the ones those Giants teams had.

[dave mcbride]

15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea but we lost and he failed at the end.

The reffing in that game was pretty terrible. It cost the Bills.

[GunnerBill]

29 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

The reffing in that game was pretty terrible. It cost the Bills.

 

But we still didn't win because of something Tyrod did. Nor could people argue that.

[Riverboat Ritchie]

23 hours ago, QCity said:

 

I guarantee you they do. This team has been regular season warriors in Sept/Oct (best record last 5 years?) but continually falls flat in January. We've all seen it.  Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they won but beating the corpse of Andy Dalton doesn't move the needle for me. And that's what the OP is talking about. Fans are starting to realize that beating the crap out of garbage teams in October and running up their stats doesn't translate to playoff success. We don't get to play the Jets in January.

Actually we are playing the Jets this year in January I think 

[Paup 1995MVP]

On 10/27/2025 at 1:12 PM, Success said:

I agree on the Pats' rise. That team reminds me so much of where we were 4-5 years ago.  And it's impossible to not notice the difference in body language if you watch their games & our games.  And for us fans, the specter of the Pats reclaiming the division before we even get a ring w/ Allen is like a theme from so many movies they'll show this week for Halloween.  "Just when you thought it was over...."

 

I'm probably reading too much into body language, or what I see as some weariness in Josh in some of his pressers - but it feels like a kind of malaise over this team right now.  Even putting up a 40 burger yesterday felt more like we NEEDED that just to have a bit of hope that the team we've come to know is still there, but so much of it still felt kind of flukey.  The passing game still underwhelms.  It's hard to tell if the D really turned a corner even though they had a solid game.

 

Sports is kind of a tough thing most of the time.  I'm the same as you - it's not healthy how invested I get.  My son talks like we HAVE to win a SB with a QB like Josh, but life isn't really about fairness and balance.  The Pats might win 6 more before we ever win one, if we ever do, for all I know.  That sounds pessimistic, but I'm just saying it's as possible as any other outcome.  We're not promised anything, or guaranteed anything.  Lots of great QB's have never won the Super Bowl, and lots of fans have gone their whole lives without seeing a title.

 

All that said - all it would take for me would be getting a headline about Olave or BTJ or someone like that, and I'd be all in for a ring this season.

My goodness, winning 40-9 on the road in the NFL against a supposed up and coming team got me jacked up.  It makes this week a whole lot better than how I felt after the dreadful loss to the Falcons-a game I was at.  

 

Sure our team has some issues.  But what team doesn't??!!  Our defense looked a whole hell of a lot better.  So that's a positive.  And James Cook had a tremendous game.  Its a week to week league.  Need to be better than the team you are playing each week.  We have our work cut out for us this coming week, that's for sure.  But I just hope that the coaches put in a really good game plan (that means you over rated OC Joe Brady) to give us a chance.  That's what good teams do.  Its going to be exciting.  I know that.  

 

Just looking at the Super Bowl as November approaches, and the season loses its fun.  We will have a shot come the end of the season.  Josh will get back on track, and we will get a good rhythm going forward.  So I am excited every Sunday because its the NFL baby.  Its football.  Between watching the Bills.  Watching the other big games, and gambling all weekend on college and pro football, how you can you not be pumped..