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4 hours ago, BlueRed said:

I wonder what the price would be… a 1st seems like too much. 
Maybe a 2nd and 4th, or 2 3rds … are the Jags that ready to move on from him?

Given his rookie year, I'd think they'd want a first and a little extra.  That said, I'd do it.  1st and a 4th?  1st and a 2027 3rd?  It might not be enough, but for a 23 year old receiver coming off of a 1,200 yard 10-TD season, with up to three years remaining on his rookie contract, I'd have no problem with the Bills making a compelling offer.  He's one of the few trade options that wouldn't force them to shuffle contracts to stay under the cap, and he remains cost-controlled for a significant stretch. 

 

Pay the freight, coach him up, and complete your receiver room.  I would love this trade. 

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Posted
5 hours ago, Roundybout said:


It’s almost like he flat-out doesn’t like playing with Lawrence 

Josh would put his arm around him and straighten things out.   

 

Lets go Beane.  Kid's on a rookie contract and you have picks and D Line bodies to burn.  

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You need to be really careful with the kid who's playing with no passion right now.. alligator arming balls and looks contact shy

 

This is a complete different football player than last year.. he looks nothing like a football player that's worth a first round pick right now.. 

 

Not sure they can get that with his tape right now

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

You need to be really careful with the kid who's playing with no passion right now.. alligator arming balls and looks contact shy

 

This is a complete different football player than last year.. he looks nothing like a football player that's worth a first round pick right now.. 

 

Not sure they can get that with his tape right now

@GoBills808

 

Besides of thumb down do you have any sort of actual constructive thing to say buddy? 

 

He's not playing at the same level he was last year.. everything I said is true do you actually have a counter or do you just want to hit an emoji

 

Second or third round pick? Sure

 

The way he's running routes and playing right now that's scary to give up a first round pick

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Posted
1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

You need to be really careful with the kid who's playing with no passion right now.. alligator arming balls and looks contact shy

 

This is a complete different football player than last year.. he looks nothing like a football player that's worth a first round pick right now.. 

 

Not sure they can get that with his tape right now

He looks like the guy I saw on tape at LSU

 

I was very surprised when he took off last season, but now he's back to being exactly what some scouts and myself saw

 

It's very strange

Posted
10 minutes ago, habes1280 said:

Given his rookie year, I'd think they'd want a first and a little extra.  That said, I'd do it.  1st and a 4th?  1st and a 2027 3rd?  It might not be enough, but for a 23 year old receiver coming off of a 1,200 yard 10-TD season, with up to three years remaining on his rookie contract, I'd have no problem with the Bills making a compelling offer.  He's one of the few trade options that wouldn't force them to shuffle contracts to stay under the cap, and he remains cost-controlled for a significant stretch. 

 

Pay the freight, coach him up, and complete your receiver room.  I would love this trade. 


there is a world where we do this, BTJ looks like last year’s version AND Keon becomes a solid WR. Then you’re set for a while with your top 4 wideouts

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1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

You need to be really careful with the kid who's playing with no passion right now.. alligator arming balls and looks contact shy

 

This is a complete different football player than last year.. he looks nothing like a football player that's worth a first round pick right now.. 

 

Not sure they can get that with his tape right now

If anything, he's got those alligator arms and is contact shy because he's afraid of the hits. I get it. And I'm probably going to be downvoted to oblivion for even mentioning it... But this coaching staff was able to get Hamlin in the headspace to take on contact after his incident. I think they can work their magic to get Thomas ready to play again, too 

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Posted
Just now, GoBills808 said:

Really wild takes here 

 

If he's even a little bit available you do what it takes


have you watched him this year?  He’s afraid to get hit…or something. Plus he has drop issues.

 

still it may be worth risking a premium pick

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4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

You need to be really careful with the kid who's playing with no passion right now.. alligator arming balls and looks contact shy

 

This is a complete different football player than last year.. he looks nothing like a football player that's worth a first round pick right now.. 

 

Not sure they can get that with his tape right now

@GoBills808

 

Besides of thumb down do you have any sort of actual constructive thing to say buddy? 

 

He's not playing at the same level he was last year.. everything I said is true do you actually have a counter or do you just want to hit an emoji

 

Second or third round pick? Sure

 

The way he's running routes and playing right now that's scary to give up a first round pick

If you're not running to trade a first for this guy you don't know ball sorry

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2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

If you're not running to trade a first for this guy you don't know ball sorry

I mean there's plenty of players in NFL history over 100 years who have had one or two really good seasons 

 

And then went back to obscurity 

 

To think having a really good rookie season guarantees a 10-year long-term great career is not how the NFL works 

 

He literally looks nothing like the same guy.. success rate is under 50% rate right now

 

The jaguars wouldn't be open to moving him unless they thought there was something up he's Young and on a rookie contract

 

I get it you really like this guy last year coming into the draft.. but if you don't understand that there's ebbs and flows peaks and valleys.. and the lines not always straight up progression I don't know what to tell you you don't know ball

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1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

I mean there's plenty of players in NFL history over 100 years who have had one or two really good seasons 

 

And then went back to obscurity 

 

To think having a really good rookie season guarantees a 10-year long-term great career is not how the NFL works 

 

He literally looks nothing like the same guy.. success rate is under 50% rate right now

Go look at the list of guys who put up rookie #s like that

 

Very little obscurity there

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1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

Go look at the list of guys who put up rookie #s like that

 

Very little obscurity there

You act like there's never been a flash in the pan

 

Michael Clayton had 1200 yards and seven touchdown as a rookie .. he was a 6'3 205 lb beast and was a higher first round pick than btj

 

Never did anything again

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Just now, Buffalo716 said:

You act like there's never been a flash in the pan

 

Michael Clayton had 1200 yards and seven touchdown as a rookie .. he was a 6'3 205 lb beast 

 

Never did anything again

😂😂Here are the guys above him

 

Nacua Chase Jefferson some guy in the 60s Randy Moss Anquan Boldin and OBJ

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1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

😂😂Here are the guys above him

 

Nacua Chase Jefferson some guy in the 60s Randy Moss Anquan Boldin and OBJ

 

So you're literally going to dismiss Michael Clayton who was a higher draft pick who had a higher pedigree coming out of college and basically put up 1200 yards and seven touchdowns as a rookie and then never did anything else 

 

Brian Thomas Jr had 90 more yards lol

 

You can absolutely go the same way as Michael Clayton.. he could also turn it around but to say he's going to be a perennial pro bowler is not correct 

 

People anointed Odell Beckham as the next greatest thing ever and he's not a Hall of famer I said the same thing after his hot start that it's not going to last 

 

You think Brian Thomas Jr is a 14,000 yard receiver in 10 years?

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