Rousseauisnoschmo Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Thanks for the work OP. Pretty much nailed why we can't make that next step. Look at the firepower KC has replenished itself with. Then theres NE and Indy. Meanwhile were just gonna keep spinning our tires when eight years has been plenty of time to break through for this regime. Do I trust Terry to get it right as someone else suggested. Nope. What were doing however isnt cutting it so you have nothing to lose by cutting McBeane loose. This is Dan Reeves the sequel. Question is whose our Mike Shanahan. 1 Quote
Pete Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago I’m anti Beane until he gets Josh a quality WR.  2 Quote
Rigotz Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago It's amazing how quickly this fan base turned from "Beane is a wizard" to "Beane needs to be fired." Â I'm seemingly one of the few people in the middle. The overreaction isn't necessary. Â Beane has had some good years when we were all singing his praise. Â Lately, he has been very cold in the draft and gave out some bad contracts. It happens. Â You don't need to burn the whole village down just yet .... lets revisit this thread in a few weeks. 1 1 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Rigotz said: It's amazing how quickly this fan base turned from "Beane is a wizard" to "Beane needs to be fired."  I'm seemingly one of the few people in the middle. The overreaction isn't necessary.  Beane has had some good years when we were all singing his praise.  Lately, he has been very cold in the draft and gave out some bad contracts. It happens.  You don't need to burn the whole village down just yet .... lets revisit this thread in a few weeks.  They've been very trait focused in the draft at times, and other times they seem to almost completely ignore traits because they like the film. I get the idea behind it because you're looking for potential growth in a faster/stronger player, but sometimes the player just isn't up to the task.   I also think people are quick to judge a player both positively and negatively week-to-week. Players have bad games, it happens to all of them, even HOFers. I'm not going to come out and say Coleman sucks when the plan after palmer gets injured is to just line him up outside 1x1 with AJ Terrell in a game where the Falcons were getting most of the calls. If he's struggled all game in press man, you need to find ways to get a player involved differently just to get the juice flowing again. A successful play can often lead to additional positive plays.   Somehow the team lost their way in the Falcons game and there's a number of factors - the falcons defense being better than people expect is a big one, but the failures were about on the game and not all of them can be traced back to the teams inability to shed man coverage.  1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago On 10/14/2025 at 8:13 PM, Cray51 said: I compared the last three drafts (not the current season, too soon) of Buffalo compared to a few other teams who have been in similar situations as the Bills (Division winners since 2020, high end QB). That pretty much leaves Baltimore and Kansas City. And with that, Baltimore had a few down years (21-22 and 22-23).  Bills: Draft Picks: 2024: Coleman - Meh so far Bishop - Meh so far Carter - Bust Davis - Meh Van-Prager - Bust Ulofisho - Bust Solomon - Bust Grable - Unknown (they like him a lot) Hardy - Bust Clayton - Bust No standout talent  Ravens: 2024: Wiggins - Good Rosengarten - Meh Isaac - Bust Walker - Bust Tampa - Meh (bad year so far) Ali - Bust Leary - Bust Samac - Bust Kane - Bust  KC: 2024: Worthy - Meh/Good (He has had big games, but his career stats are almost EXACTLY like Colemans') Kingsley - Meh Wiley - Bust Hicks - Meh Nourzad - Meh Hadden - Bust Hanson - Bust  2024 Summary: None of the teams hit on a stud in this draft. Worthy has shown a flash or two, but the production doesnt match the way some speak of him here. Wiggins is probably the best player of the group to date. No superstars or even stars out of the group yet (maybe Wiggins, but I'd say that's a stretch)  2023: Bills: Kincaid - Meh/Good (Trending well but injured frequently) Torrence - Good (Maybe really good) Williams - Meh Shorter - Bust Broeker - Bust Austin - Bust for the Bills, Meh pick overall  Ravens: Flowers - Good Simpson - Good Robinson - Meh Kelly - Bust Laulu - Bust Vorehees - meh  KC: Uzomah - Bust Rice - Good Morris - Bust Conners - Meh (decent player though) Thompson - Bust Coburn - Bust Jones - Bust  2023 Summary: Again, all similar results to date. Baltimore with probably the best results, but you could argue the Bills have had two legit impact players on their offense in Kincaid and Torrence. KC with the worst draft of the group, Uzomah was a massive bust  2022 Draft: Bills: Elam: Bust Cook - Great Bernard - Good Shakir - Good Araiza - Good (Bust for Bills) Benford - Good Tenuta - Bust Spector - Bust  Ravens: Hamilton - Great Linderbaum - Good Ojabo - Bust Jones - Good Faalele - Meh Armour-Davis - Bust Kolar - Bust Stout - Good Likely - Good Williams - Bust Badie - Bust  KC: McDuffie - Great Karlaftis - Good Moore - Bust Cook - Good Chenal - Good Williams - Good Kinnard - Bust Watson - Meh Pacheco - Meh Johnson - Bust  Summary: Really strong draft year. Baltimore really lucked into Hamilton this season, the fact that he fell is crazy. Elam bust stick out, but the Bills had a really strong rest of the draft. Overall, I'd say all three teams had a great draft - hard to differentiate impact.  Overall summary - None of the teams have been head or shoulders above the others over the past three drafts (22-24). Each team have had their share of hits (McDuffie, Hamilton, Cook), and their share of busts (Uzomah, Elam). If you try to compare the Bills draft to any other teams, they tend to have picked much earlier than them from 2020-2025, which drastically impacts the results. At the end of the day, if you are upset with the Bills draft results from the past few years, you could be a fan of KC or Baltimore and saying the exact same thing.  I'll need to cover FA in another post I know it won't be (to be fair, the board may not have the capability) BUT THIS SHOULD BE PINNED AS THE 2ND COMMENT IN THE POST.  I know several posters would just pick the narrative that fits their narrative and crusade with it... but this is a well done post that brings a lot of context! The only fair way to look at this, is to look at both of these posts. I was furious until I got to this one, and Im certain there are improvements to make from all 3 of these teams.  I'd be really interested in seeing the FA Side of this post, which is likely the more damning comparison. I'm not assigning work to anyone, just adding a thought. I think a great way to add additional context would be to chart out the teams who picked in top 3 of each round too, and then ONLY EXAMINE the picks made a round down, so how the bad teams picked BEHIND US. i.e END OF 1ST RD -> TOP OF 2ND // BOTTOM 2ND -> TOP OF 3RD ETC ETC 1 Quote
Pete Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago On 10/13/2025 at 11:55 PM, True Blue said: If it were me I’d bench Coleman but if McD insists on starting him I’d line him up as a slot receiver Are you going to bench Shakir for Slowman? Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago On 10/14/2025 at 8:25 PM, bubba2018 said: that 24 draft is so f ing brutal🤣🤣 In total fairness. There are ZERO Pro Bowlers drafted after #23 overall in the entire draft! Thats kinda mind blowing, even if it was only 1year ago. A quick glance as I dont have time to dig in, is that 2024 was a pretty weak Draft overall. That doesnt fully let Beane off the hook; but Baltimore & KC having similar results as us makes it much less egregious. Quote
Pete Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 56 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:  They've been very trait focused in the draft at times, and other times they seem to almost completely ignore traits because they like the film. I get the idea behind it because you're looking for potential growth in a faster/stronger player, but sometimes the player just isn't up to the task.   I also think people are quick to judge a player both positively and negatively week-to-week. Players have bad games, it happens to all of them, even HOFers. I'm not going to come out and say Coleman sucks when the plan after palmer gets injured is to just line him up outside 1x1 with AJ Terrell in a game where the Falcons were getting most of the calls. If he's struggled all game in press man, you need to find ways to get a player involved differently just to get the juice flowing again. A successful play can often lead to additional positive plays.   Somehow the team lost their way in the Falcons game and there's a number of factors - the falcons defense being better than people expect is a big one, but the failures were about on the game and not all of them can be traced back to the teams inability to shed man coverage.  We say Coleman sucks by his body of work in the NFL and College.  I told you Coleman sucked when he was at college.  He was slow then too.  1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago On 10/17/2025 at 10:05 AM, ngbills said: Beane prefers all the many every body eats pieces.  We don’t need a Chase that completely takes over game. We would rather spend $20m+ on Moore, Samuel, Knox, etc. People looking at this emotionally is going to happen.... but it completely kills any/all attempts to look at this objectively. I'm screaming WR, as much/more than 99% of the board but..... where was the chance to get a Chase? There wasn't. Theres a good post showing/comparing KC & Baltimores draft to ours, since all 3 were picking in very similar range.... and they all 3 are almost identical.  Yes, I f'n hate the Samuel/Knox money too... Samuel was pretty universally looked at as a HR signing here. Knox was much more split, but leaned towards approved.  Im furious we are where we are too. DK should certainly be a Bill right now. I'm not here to defend Beane, depending on how this season turns out I could be swayed towards firing him. At the same time, people posting emotionally when their is a solid chunk of really good context, soooooo close to OP's. It's intentionally/unintentionally ignorant, hitting send on posts like that ^^^ Quote
ngbills Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: People looking at this emotionally is going to happen.... but it completely kills any/all attempts to look at this objectively. I'm screaming WR, as much/more than 99% of the board but..... where was the chance to get a Chase? There wasn't. Theres a good post showing/comparing KC & Baltimores draft to ours, since all 3 were picking in very similar range.... and they all 3 are almost identical.  Yes, I f'n hate the Samuel/Knox money too... Samuel was pretty universally looked at as a HR signing here. Knox was much more split, but leaned towards approved.  Im furious we are where we are too. DK should certainly be a Bill right now. I'm not here to defend Beane, depending on how this season turns out I could be swayed towards firing him. At the same time, people posting emotionally when their is a solid chunk of really good context, soooooo close to OP's. It's intentionally/unintentionally ignorant, hitting send on posts like that ^^^ Clearly Chase was not available. But the point is Beane is not even looking for a poor man's version of Chase. He has chosen to go the route of gadget pieces, thinking you can combine 4 guys abilities into one dominant WR profile. I think this approach is wrong. I would have preferred to go for guys like Pickens, D Adams, DK Metcalf, etc. that have shown they can be #1's. Heck there are a handful of guys in the top 20 rec yards that were all available - Pickens, Adams, Allen, Diggs. Beane chose Palmer and Moore. He had a similar mindset in the most obvious WR drafter, instead of moving up for a clear #1 in Thomas, he moved back for Coleman. It has been just a very risk averse approach to the position yet all the small bets have added up in resources used. Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago On 10/18/2025 at 9:33 AM, Thurman#1 said:   Virgil, you're usually a really strong poster, but this post is just awful.  Just addressing these first few line I found several misguided  We have four starters, not three from the last three drafts. Coleman, Bishop, Kincaid and Torrence. Hell, Hawes has started two of the last three games. And expecting starters from the first year particularly on a loaded roster this early in the season goes against history, especially with McDermott at coach. Would Hairston have started sometime this year, without the injury? Very very likely, and still possible.  Plus you've got several guys contributing a lot of snaps already, as platoon players or in sub-packages. Levy had the same philosophy. It's hard to start early on a good roster.  You claim to have bolded the guys who've contributed in a meaningful way. Seriously? You didn't bold Coleman, Hawes, Bishop, Ray Davies or Dorian Williams, who's started five games and played 64% of snaps. You didn't bold Taron Johnson. I mean ...     Or maybe that they could have found ways to handle that situation by the time Cook was gone in 2026.  Or maybe they thought that - and I grant this thought is way way out there - Cook might end up signing a deal that was closer to what the Bills thought was reasonable than the $15M per year Cook had publicly asked for.  On 10/18/2025 at 9:50 AM, Thurman#1 said:   Trusting you on this .... No trading partner came through. Hmmm. Wonder why that was.  Couldn't have been that maybe nobody else wanted to give him $15M/year either, could it?  He may turn out to be worth $15M/year. But he hadn't proven it at the time. He had legitimate blocking issues and he hadn't put up a lot of snaps. Could he now put up a ton of snaps and prove that he could have been doing it from day one? That's one possibility. Or he could wear down if they use him that much, that's another. And there are many more.  One reason that GMs give players permission to seek out a trade is that they think this will give the player a realistic look at what his market is. And Cook didn't just play out his contract, he signed a deal with the Bills. Again, hmmmm.  There's more than one way to look at that.    I dont have much to add here, but just wanted to say Great posts, and show the other side of the coin, that not many will bring up or acknowledge here (at least, understandably so, right now they won't).  Personally, I have been in support of Beane, while admitting plenty of disappointment over, moves or lack thereof, over the last 2 years. When I first opened this thread, I was 100% ready to move on from Beane. @Virgil Im a "fan" of yours, not only for hard work/thoughtful quality threads and responses you put out at the board.... and in no way did I think OP was intended to be misleading or crusading or anything like that. But I'd imagine you feel at least a biiiiiit different after having seen some context in the responses. I literally, just wanted to point out how things are not black/white, even when they may seem that way.  Between the response showing Chiefs/Ravens by comparison, I know I feel quite differently than I did at first. Going in and looking at the '24 Draft as a whole, it's been a very unimpressive draft as a whole. We can all agree the ProBowl isnt some elite or impossible feat. 2024 draft had 0 ProBowler's past the 23rd overall pick. While there are certainly some good players in there, even a quick glance at that class will leave most realizing it was slim pickings.  Again coming back to this thought "point out how things are not black/white, even when they may seem that way".... another one of my fav posters (username escapes me, I recognize pictures best here) is the one about 'we gave permission to Cook to seek a trade'... I was fired up, trying to imagine our current situation minus Cook now.  But the two posts quoted above, bring some very good context. And again, certainly would not state he was trying to mislead, as hes likely the most 'connected' poster here. But just a great reminder that the things we're PO'd about, can be looked at it a completely different light and make a ton of sense. Maybe Beane was trying to show Cook his real value, as a courtesy like 'hey, if that was going right, we'd be the first one to give that to you... but thats not your market'.  Id imagine even Cook went through same emotions "trade me?!? $15M, I'll show you".... how would a player know the actual market. Kind of a genius move to let Cook go do that if you're confident in your position.... not only is that great leverage to get a deal done, but its a helluva de-escalation tactic with a guy you want to keep, and make sure that he isn't disgruntled.  A different GM and in the same scenario (wanting to retain their guy) could've landed on a 1 year deal at the same dollar amount.... but now they have a disgruntled player who believes he IS being ripped off for the entire year. If Beane IS wrong, he gets additional info to make his decision... hell, maybe somebody wants to pay him $20M and send us a boatload of picks (unlikely, but not the point).  Beane still has a ton to prove, and Im firmly on the hot seat with him, pending how this season finishes out. Just wanted to share what I noticed that even in my head I flip-flopped, and realized most likely, neither position was correct about the drafts or Cook or FA, but likely somewhere in the middle. Ohhh, And don't let the folks posting in here who scrolled to the bottom of page 1, clicked post, and then went to the next thread sway your opinion either LOL cause they're in here!  TBD is the best sports discussion across any sport/team 1 Quote
mjt328 Posted 48 minutes ago Posted 48 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Rigotz said: It's amazing how quickly this fan base turned from "Beane is a wizard" to "Beane needs to be fired."  I'm seemingly one of the few people in the middle. The overreaction isn't necessary.  Beane has had some good years when we were all singing his praise.  Lately, he has been very cold in the draft and gave out some bad contracts. It happens.  You don't need to burn the whole village down just yet .... lets revisit this thread in a few weeks.  Sometimes it takes time to properly judge a General Manager.  The early returns were very good, and it was easy to ignore poor roster management when the team is winning. But as the sample size has gotten bigger, the worse Brandon Beane's decisions are turning out.  As everyone probably recalls, the timing on Beane's hiring was very abnormal. He wasn't brought into the General Manager position until after the 2017 free agency and the draft. And for some strange reason, our previous GM (Doug Whaley) waited until his closing months to hit an absolutely homerun in player additions. The Bills literally added Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, Tre White, Dion Dawkins and Matt Milano just before Beane was hired. So five of the main cornerstone pieces that we've had over the years were NOT added by Beane, although he basically got credit for their performance.  Of course, Beane's first real moves were trading away several of our top players (Sammy Watkins, Ronald Darby, Marcel Dareus, Cordy Glenn) for draft ammo... and then nailing his first pick with Josh Allen. I like to point out that Allen was the third QB drafted. If we knew he was going to be the guy we have now, we sell the farm to move up and take him. So while Beane does get ultimate credit for getting it right, there is an element of luck here.  Beane's next most impactful move was trading a 1st Round Pick for Stefon Diggs. It's hard to argue anytime you add a player with the production he gave us for 4 years. But it's also hard not to consider that Minnesota used the same pick on Justin Jefferson (a far superior player), and that Diggs baggage ended up killing us in the end.   When you step back and look at our drafting from 2018-now, the results have been really ugly. So many wasted early picks. So many positions he can't get right. The NFL draft is a team's lifeblood. Our original cornerstones are aging out, regressing or leaving for other reasons... and we have nobody there to step into the void. Cornerback is a mess. Safety is a mess. Wide Receiver is a mess. Linebacker is an underrated need. We still haven't been able to add a young and high-impact pass rusher.   Everyone (including myself) vastly overrated Beane and the 2025 Buffalo Bills from the start. Only about half the fanbase realizes it right now. The rest are holding out hope that we turn this around, and will soon be coming to the same conclusion. Truthfully, the failings on this roster SHOULD have been expected, considering how poorly the last several drafts and free agent classes have gone. You can't just lose good NFL players and replace them with significant downgrades, and then expect to keep playing at the same level. Hyde and Poyer were not properly replaced. Taylor Rapp needs to be benched, and Cole Bishop has been a below-average starter so far. Christian Benford is not prime White. And our current version of White is not an adequate starter. Milano will never be able to stay healthy. Terrell Bernard was a one-year wonder and is still too small to play MLB. Keon Coleman is a decent replacement for Gabe Davis. They have never replaced Diggs. Quote
Cray51 Posted 39 minutes ago Posted 39 minutes ago 1 hour ago, BillsShredder83 said: I know it won't be (to be fair, the board may not have the capability) BUT THIS SHOULD BE PINNED AS THE 2ND COMMENT IN THE POST.  I know several posters would just pick the narrative that fits their narrative and crusade with it... but this is a well done post that brings a lot of context! The only fair way to look at this, is to look at both of these posts. I was furious until I got to this one, and Im certain there are improvements to make from all 3 of these teams.  I'd be really interested in seeing the FA Side of this post, which is likely the more damning comparison. I'm not assigning work to anyone, just adding a thought. I think a great way to add additional context would be to chart out the teams who picked in top 3 of each round too, and then ONLY EXAMINE the picks made a round down, so how the bad teams picked BEHIND US. i.e END OF 1ST RD -> TOP OF 2ND // BOTTOM 2ND -> TOP OF 3RD ETC ETC Thanks for the callout, I meant to do an FA review but it's incredibly time consuming.  I'll address it in a shorter form. If I look at the last three offseasons, here are the key acquisitions made by the Chiefs/Ravens/Bills by year  2023: Bills: Damian Harris - Bust Connor McGovern - Great pickup Latavius Murray - Meh Poona Ford - Bust Taylor Rapp - Meh Trent Sherfield - Bust David Edwards - Good Deonte Hardy - Bust  Overall - Meh. The team had Diggs/Davis at this time, and wanted to protect Allen. They did secure 40% of their O-line for the next 3 seasons with this class, but not much else. 3 guys still on roster  Ravens: Beckham - Meh Nelson Agholor - Bust Geno Stone - Good Clowney - Good Van Noy - GREAT Darby - Bust Rock Ya Sin - Bust Laquan Treadwell - Bust  Overall - Van Noy was a huge find, Geno Stone was a one year wonder, and Clowney was as well. One guy still on the roster in Van Noy  Chiefs: Drue Tranquill - Good Bryan Cowert - Bust Mike Edwards - Meh Jawaan Taylor - Meh Charles Omenihu - Good  Overall - Decent. Tranquill was a good find, Taylor has been their RT for a while, Omenihu is decent. 3 players still with team  2023 OVERALL: No one really sticks out. The Bills did a nice job bringing in O-line starters, who ran a top 5 group last year. Nothing else really stands out  2024: Bills: Samuel - Bust Ty Johnson - good (was a midseason pickup in 2023 but counting here) Mack Hollins - Meh Morrow - Bust Will Clapp - Bust Casey Toohill - Bust  Overall - bad class. A lot of nothing, but this was considered the transition year eating Digg's contract  Ravens: Henry - GREAT Josh Jones - Bust Chris Board - Bust  Overall - Henry was a major get. Helped the offense a TON. Otherwise, nothing  Chiefs: Marquise Brown - Meh Irv Smith - Bust Juju - Meh  Overall - Brown and Juju are fine, but replacement level players for KC  2024 OVERALL: Ravens win with Henry, but again, not a ton here. Some depth guys. Brown has been ok for KC, Samuel as bust for the Bills  I wont go into 2025 yet, too early in the year. Again, the theme here is these top teams focus most of their assets in drafted, developing, and retaining talent. In FA, each team has obtained 3-4 starters out of the 22 possible players on the field, but other than Henry, no one that's really top top end. Van Noy/Tranquill/McGovern/Edwards have been good finds that have helped their teams, but other than that, it's a lot of bleh or straight up crappy. Quote
Bob in STL Posted 19 minutes ago Posted 19 minutes ago On 10/13/2025 at 10:22 PM, Virgil said: Looking back at all the offseason moves to support this team the past three years is a lot more eye opening than I expected.  I went and bolded all the players who are contributing this season in a meaningful way, it's a scary sight.  On draft classes alone, you could argue Beane should be fired.  3 total starters from the last three drafts.  That's horrific.  Add to that the new contact extensions that we can't get out of, and it looks to be time....   2025 Draft Round 1 (30th overall): Maxwell Hairston, CB, Kentucky Round 2 (41st overall): T.J. Sanders, DT, South Carolina Round 3 (72nd overall): Landon Jackson, DE, Arkansas Round 4 (109th overall): Deone Walker, DT, Kentucky Round 5 (170th overall): Jordan Hancock, DB, Ohio State Round 5 (173rd overall): Jackson Hawes, TE, Georgia Tech  2024 Draft Round 2: WR Keon Coleman, Florida State, No. 33 overall (from Panthers) Round 2: S Cole Bishop, Utah, No. 60 Round 3: DT DeWayne Carter, Duke, No. 95 (from Chiefs) Round 4: RB Ray Davis, Kentucky, No. 128 Round 5: C/G Sedrick Van Pran-Granger, Georgia, No. 141 (from Panthers) Round 5: LB Edefuan Ulofoshio, Washington, No. 160 (from Packers) Round 5: DE Javon Solomon, Troy, No. 168 Round 6: T Tylan Grable, UCF, No. 204 Round 6: CB Daequan Hardy, Penn State, No. 219 Round 7: G Travis Clayton, International Player Pathway, No. 221 (from Chiefs)  2023 Draft Round 1, Pick 25: Dalton Kincaid, TE, Utah Round 2, Pick 59: O'Cyrus Torrence, G, Florida Round 3, Pick 91: Dorian Williams, LB, Tulane Round 5, Pick 150: Justin Shorter, WR, Florida Round 7, Pick 230: Nick Broeker, G, Ole Miss Round 7, Pick 252: Alex Austin, DB, Oregon State  2025 Contract extensions James Cook: Signed a four year extension Josh Allen: Signed a six-year, $330 million contract. Khalil Shakir: Received a contract extension. Terrel Bernard: Received a contract extension. Greg Rousseau: Signed a four-year extension. Christian Benford: Received an extension.  2025 Free agent signings Joey Bosa: Signed a one-year deal. Larry Ogunjobi: Signed a one-year deal. Joshua Palmer: Signed a three-year contract. Darrick Forrest: Signed a contract. Laviska Shenault: Signed a contract. Dane Jackson: Signed a one-year deal. Kendrick Green: Signed a one-year deal. Reggie Gilliam: Re-signed to a one-year deal. Damar Hamlin: Re-signed to a one-year deal.  2024 Extensions Taron Johnson: Signed a three-year, $31 million contract extension. DaQuan Jones: Re-signed on a two-year, $16 million deal. Dion Dawkins: Signed a three-year, $60.5 million contract extension. Taylor Rapp: Re-signed on a three-year deal. Will Clapp: Signed a one-year deal. Quintin Morris: Re-signed to a one-year deal.  2024 Signings Curtis Samuel: Signed a three-year, $24 million contract. Casey Toohill: Signed a one-year contract. Mike Edwards: Signed a one-year contract. Mack Hollins: Signed a one-year contract. Nicholas Morrow: Signed a one-year contract. Mitchell Trubisky: Signed a two-year contract. David Edwards: Signed a two-year contract.  2023 Signings Signed QB Kyle Allen: Added a new backup quarterback. Signed G Connor McGovern: Signed WR Deonte Harty: Signed WR Trent Sherfield: Signed G David Edwards: Signed OT David Quessenberry: Re-signed OL Ike Boetger: The 2024 draft looks poor.  Coleman and Bishop need to step up. Neither are solid starters.   The 2025 might be a good one if Hairston becomes a real CB#1.  Walker, Hancock and Hawes have flashed potential as well.  The rest of it driven by cap management decisions. Since 2023 Beane has improved the OL but has not found enough help at WR. His inability to find impact players on defense is his biggest problem.   Is this fireable? Not to me.   Most of you guys do not follow the Sabres.  Give Pegula a chance to change GMs and I fully expect he will blow it in a big way.  Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted 1 minute ago Posted 1 minute ago All I know is BB has failed miserably over these last 2 drafts. Only 1 quality player (Walker) out of 16 players. Putting aside the egregious inability to draft a WR1, Beane's hot seat should be scalding if for no other reason than these last 2 drafts. And whatever input McD has had on some of these picks, sheds a very poor light on him too. Quote
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