For all you McDermott haters, who would you want?

[MikePJ76]

Just now, corta765 said:

Thank you for supporting the same crap that has resulted in no rings, no 1 seed, and helping to waste Josh entire career. McD lifetime coach forever!

you want people fired the morning after a 3 point loss?  The team is 4-1 not 1-4.

 

Do you think they are going to fire the staff and hire new coaches and put in a new scheme on wednesday for the sunday game in atlanta?

 

You have lost your mind.  

[Roundybout]

1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said:

Rattler passed for like 111 yards.

 

Get a grip

They rushed all over us and we were only up by 2 at one point. Probably would have been losing if Bishop didn’t make that crazy interception. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

37 minutes ago, corta765 said:

It is groundhog day all over. Lose to an AFC team where you turn the ball over like crazy, take a billion penalties, the offense has an off day and the defense can carry the water. I have seen this movie over and over and mark my words come January when the Bills are the 2 or 3 or heck a wildcard team as Maye looks like he can carry the water for them it'll be the same damn discussion again. For a guy who is a defensive mind McD's defenses have only gotten worse over the years yet the investment is pour more resources there with nothing to show for it. At this point fire McD, burn the ships and go with Brady as the head coach because that is the only change that might actually change the course from another defeat on the road in January where the offense has a B+ day and the defense allows 30+ points and everyone criticizes everything when the true issue is unless 17 is A+ 24/7 he will never have the help to make the Super Bowl.

I see someone is having big feelings today. 

 

 

 

[Billsfanatic8989]

23 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

I put the statistics in another thread and wont do it here but McDermotts defenses have given up 1 more point on average in the playoffs than Belichick's have all time.    Brady takes his team down the field and wins the AFC championship last year because he recognizes the blitz pre snap.   The same fricking blitz mind you Josh didnt recognize again last night.    The Patriots didnt win championships because Belichick is a genius, the Patriots won championships because they had the best at all time under center.   

Is McDermott holding the greatest show on turf Rams to 17 points as huge underdogs? Is he holding Peyton Manning to three points in a postseason game? What about holding the high flying Rams to three points in a SB? Does McDermott notice Seattle is all confused and goes with his gut to not call a timeout in a SB. Ultimately heping his team win it all? His 1990 SB game plan is in the HOF. McDermott isn't remotely close to Belichick in terms of defensive accomplishments.

 

Brady probably does recognize the blitz presnap last year and wins the game. You are talking about arguably the smartest NFL QB in league history. Presnap and postsnap. He even said in an interview that he knew what the Chiefs D was going to do before KC did. SB 55. In otherwords, there is no shame in Allen not being at a Ton Brady level. Very few QB's are. 

[MikePJ76]

Just now, Roundybout said:

They rushed all over us and we were only up by 2 at one point. Probably would have been losing if Bishop didn’t make that crazy interception. 

You said Rattler carved them up.

 

The bills give up the numbers in the running game because teams do not score TD's regularly on them running the ball.  They have done this for years.

 

Its a 3 point loss to a tough team.  Its not the end of the season.  

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said:

you want people fired the morning after a 3 point loss?  The team is 4-1 not 1-4.

 

Do you think they are going to fire the staff and hire new coaches and put in a new scheme on wednesday for the sunday game in atlanta?

 

You have lost your mind.  

 

It's not about one game. Nobody is getting fired during the year with the Bills. It's the same issues that come up with losses that have been going on for nine years now with McDermott and Beane. That is where the frustration is as opposed to losing one game. Nobody expected the Bills to go 17-0. All last night's loss means is the Bills will now have to get that game back by beating the Pats in NE.

[Since1981]

Feels like fans are already fretting about a Round 1 exit or another KC game. If that’s how it ends, it screams coaching change to me. But yeah, we’re Bills fans—hand-wringing is the job

[LarryMadman]

9 hours ago, H2o said:

Marty Schottenheimer 2.0

Schottenheimer never had a Josh Allen

[corta765]

14 minutes ago, JP51 said:

I get it.. I think you have to give posters (very much including me LOL) a 24 hour grace window... some of us get really pissed... what the poster is saying i also get... this looks very much like the team we have seen lose in the playoffs... I am not seeing improvement, in fact little things are starting to catch up with us... defense cannot be relied on... However, they are currently the 1 seed... obviously this loss doesnt kiss that good bye... run 4-1 thru 3 5 game segments and you are at 112-14 wins... 14 does it... 13 you have a shot 12.... not so much...  but there are certainly issues to be corrected 1st seed or not...  bottom line is still Josh wears a cape probably gonna win... Josh doesnt good shot to lose.... Josh wore flip flops and a tshirt yesterday... no cape in sight... 

 

I have felt this way since the KC loss. What has changed? Defense still sucks despite very resource we have being pumped into it, the coach routinely gets out coached by anyone half decent, and if Josh is not playing at a high level or mistakes happen whether it be his or the teams they lose. Again were wasting the prime of the best QB we have had and our best chance to get a ring since the 90s. It is fascinating to me the amount of people that still defend McD when it has been nearly a decade of him as coach and his defense has only gotten worse despite having the luxury of an all world QB. Beane doesn't escape criticism either but you can't fire a GM mid season.

[Roundybout]

8 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

You said Rattler carved them up.

 

The bills give up the numbers in the running game because teams do not score TD's regularly on them running the ball.  They have done this for years.

 

Its a 3 point loss to a tough team.  Its not the end of the season.  

I mean yeah, but did you watch the Saints game? We couldn’t get off the field!

[nosejob]

13 minutes ago, JP51 said:

not at all convinced... 

Screens and QUICK passes to the backs in the flats would have changed a lot. These guys won't do it. By the time Josh takes the check down, I could get up out of the chair and go blow the play up. They knew they were playing a good secondary and those dumps offs to the backs would have paid off.

 

Nope, lets dance around 10 yds deep....behind the LOS and chuck it.

[corta765]

22 minutes ago, PayDaBill$ said:

Last night was more about penalties and turnovers but I still see a lot of the same problems that have plagued us year to year.  Where’s the blame lie for that?

 

This is my point. The Bills will finish will 11-6/12-5 probably the division crown although NE can take it if we don't keep our stuff together and then they fall the same fashion in the postseason. They are consistent enough to be pretty good, but to be great they make the same mistakes yearly with the same issues on D which results in too many what if losses come seasons end. That goes back to your head coach and talent wise to your GM as the defense just lacks any bluechip talent at this point while recycling older broken pieces like Tre back in hoping for a one year blip of decent play.

[Since1981]

Serious question. McD is a smart and organized team manager. I think we all agree.
 

For the next level, please, is there something McD has driven that stands out in anyway? Seriously asking?

It’s certainly not a strong or unique D

[thenorthremembers]

18 minutes ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

Is McDermott holding the greatest show on turf Rams to 17 points as huge underdogs? Is he holding Peyton Manning to three points in a postseason game? What about holding the high flying Rams to three points in a SB? Does McDermott notice Seattle is all confused and goes with his gut to not call a timeout in a SB. Ultimately heping his team win it all? His 1990 SB game plan is in the HOF. McDermott isn't remotely close to Belichick in terms of defensive accomplishments.

 

Brady probably does recognize the blitz presnap last year and wins the game. You are talking about arguably the smartest NFL QB in league history. Presnap and postsnap. He even said in an interview that he knew what the Chiefs D was going to do before KC did. SB 55. In otherwords, there is no shame in Allen not being at a Ton Brady level. Very few QB's are. 

Again.  McDermott's defenses have given up 1 more point a game in the playoffs than Belichicks.  Again, the argument is today, at 73 years old that Belichick could do better with Allen than McDermott, he couldnt.  Again, the super genius is now 83-101 in games without Brady.  He's made the NFL playoffs in 3 of 11 seasons without Brady.   What other proof do you guys need to show Belichick is a sub .500 coach without Tom Brady.    No one is on Brady's level, but there is a QB in the AFC West who is going to be close by the time he ends his career.  

Edited 2 hours ago by thenorthremembers

[Kirby Jackson]

I have been on record, for a few years, that I’m not as concerned about the who. I advocated for Sean Payton before he went to Denver. I’m of the belief that, pretty much any quality coach (and GM) could do what this regime has with Josh Allen as QB. I no longer accept, “it’s hard to win in this league” when KC bounces you in the playoffs. You have to find a way while you have that unicorn at QB. You may lose another game or two in the regular season because you aren’t as organized but, in exchange, you may not pee down your leg when facing Reid/Mahomes/Spags.

 

I’ve been a Beane defender for a while. Since Schoen left, he’s done a lousy job. His philosophy is flawed. It isn’t flawed that you build the lines first. It’s flawed in that you should arm Josh first not continue throwing assets at the trash DL because you failed at building it. His failure at WR was on full display last night. Forget about guys that can block like Hollins or Coleman or Shavers and focus on guys who can get open!! Josh will get them the ball. I am frustrated today. 

[Billsfanatic8989]

18 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

you want people fired the morning after a 3 point loss?  The team is 4-1 not 1-4.

 

Do you think they are going to fire the staff and hire new coaches and put in a new scheme on wednesday for the sunday game in atlanta?

 

You have lost your mind.  

I don't want anybody fired today. 

 

If the team doesn't make the SB again, and loses to KC, I will for sure want heads to roll. 

 

Allen isn't getting any younger. 

[TheFunPolice]

8 minutes ago, LarryMadman said:

Schottenheimer never had a Josh Allen

 

McDermott is Marty with an all time great QB. 

 

Both of their systems work and win a lot of games. For the record I liked Marty too. 

 

Either one could have/can win a Super Bowl, but you have to get there first. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

59 minutes ago, Billever76 said:

It’s a coaches job to scheme to his players strengths not the other way around as mcclappy has done….statistically speaking Allen is above Brady and superbowls and championships are a team accolade 

Josh/the offense has had 6 fourth quarter drives  the last two playoff games against the chiefs.   2 of which probably would’ve been walkoff wins…they’ve scored 7 total points 

 

that’s not statistically better than tom Brady or pat mahomes and it’s frankly the only offensive stat that matters for this discussion 

 

Im not saying people shouldn’t blame the defense but we’ve gotta be realistic here…expecting to be in a better scenario than your hof qb needing a late drive to seal the game against a team like the chiefs (or the chiefs against a team like the bills even) is not realistic.  Every bills chiefs matchup the last few years regular season or otherwise were decided in that fashion and they will continue to be no matter how many total points are given up in the game 

[rajinka]

Don't worry.  we'll lose next week, bear the panthers, chiefs, lose to the bucs. Win out in dominate fashion. Everyone will proclaim how great we are with our high powered balanced offense then come playoffs we'll lay an egg again.  

[LarryMadman]

2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I have been on record, for a few years, that I’m not as concerned about the who. I advocated for Sean Payton before he went to Denver. I’m of the belief that, pretty much any quality coach (and GM) could do what this regime has with Josh Allen as QB. I no longer accept, “it’s hard to win in this league” when KC bounces you in the playoffs. You have to find a way while you have that unicorn at QB. You may lose another game or two in the regular season because you aren’t as organized but, in exchange, you may not pee down your leg when facing Reid/Mahomes/Spags.

 

I’ve been a Beane defender for a while. Since Schoen left, he’s done a lousy job. His philosophy is flawed. It isn’t flawed that you build the lines first. It’s flawed in that you should arm Josh first not continue throwing assets at the trash DL because you failed at building it. His failure at WR was on full display last night. Forget about guys that can block like Hollins or Coleman or Shavers and focus on guys who can get open!! Josh will get them the ball. I am frustrated today. 

I'm convinced McDermott want WR who are blockers first catchers second to play within his complimentary game manager style offense because that is exactaly what we have.